The college football playoff committee...got it right.

[PFSIKH]

Are the best four in?  Probably not.

Did Florida State deserve to go?  Probably.  

I am normally an ACC guy.  It sucks what happened to Jordan Travis.  I just think a FSU team without Jordan Travis being selected over the others would have been the travesty.

FSU team went from putting up over 400 yards a game w/Travis to just over 200 since his injury (not including North Alabama). 

 The committee got it right.  

[JiFtheOracle]

On 12/4/2023 at 4:35 PM, PFSIKH said:

Are the best four in?  Probably not.

Did Florida State deserve to go?  Probably.  

I am normally an ACC guy.  It sucks what happened to Jordan Travis.  I just think a FSU team without Jordan Travis being selected over the others would have been the travesty.

FSU team went from putting up over 400 yards a game w/Travis to just over 200 since his injury (not including North Alabama). 

 The committee got it right.  

The committee had FSU ranked #4 and Texas #7, knowing Tate Rodemaker was in the concussion protocol and not going to play. just a few days before Championship Sat.  Texas played #19 Oklahoma St. and FSU played #15 Louisville.  FSU beat the higher ranked team, holding an offense that puts up 30pts a game to 6 pts but Texas playing a team that doesnt know you're allowed to play defense jumps 4 spots and FSU, falls?  That makes zero sense. 

Why wasnt Texas ranked higher than FSU going into the weekend?  If you do that, at least you're telling the world the truth and letting FSU know that winning isnt enough, and that they dont care if Rodemaker was coming back, you better blow them out by 40 so you dont have to explain why a team playing a lesser opponent, jumped FSU.

Also, Texas lost at home, to a 2 loss team in Oklahoma.  Georgia went undefeated in the regular season in the SEC and lost in a neutral site championship game to Alabama.  Who's loss is worse?  Who's road harder? How many times has the loser of the SEC championship game, gone on to win the Nat'y? 

So even if you want to argue the committee snubbing FSU was correct (I would still disagree because I think FSU could ugly up a game w/ that defense and have just enough playmakers on offense to give them a punchers chance), there is no doubt in my mind Georgia would smoke Texas, Washington and Michigan w/ ease. 

College Football is broken and this decision made it much much worse.  Dont even get me into the transfer portal, NIL, eligibility and strength of schedule conversation.  These teams are not competing at all on a level playing field. 

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

2 hours ago, JagsFanJif said:

The committee had FSU ranked #4 and Texas #7, knowing Tate Rodemaker was in the concussion protocol and not going to play. just a few days before Championship Sat.  Texas played #19 Oklahoma St. and FSU played #15 Louisville.  FSU beat the higher ranked team, holding an offense that puts up 30pts a game to 6 pts but Texas playing a team that doesnt know you're allowed to play defense jumps 4 spots and FSU, falls?  That makes zero sense. 

Why wasnt Texas ranked higher than FSU going into the weekend?  If you do that, at least you're telling the world the truth and letting FSU know that winning isnt enough, and that they dont care if Rodemaker was coming back, you better blow them out by 40 so you dont have to explain why a team playing a lesser opponent, jumped FSU.

Also, Texas lost at home, to a 2 loss team in Oklahoma.  Georgia went undefeated in the regular season in the SEC and lost in a neutral site championship game to Alabama.  Who's loss is worse?  Who's road harder? How many times has the loser of the SEC championship game, gone on to win the Nat'y? 

So even if you want to argue the committee snubbing FSU was correct (I would still disagree because I think FSU could ugly up a game w/ that defense and have just enough playmakers on offense to give them a punchers chance), there is no doubt in my mind Georgia would smoke Texas, Washington and Michigan w/ ease. 

College Football is broken and this decision made it much much worse.  Dont even get me into the transfer portal, NIL, eligibility and strength of schedule conversation.  These teams are not competing at all on a level playing field. 

 

 

Yes to all of this.

The NCAA Basketball tournament is about including the most deserving teams, not the best 68.

I know it’s much harder when you’re only choosing 4 teams, but I still disagree fundamentally that it should be the “4 best”.  It should have been the 4 “most deserving”.  Because as you say, there is no universe where Washington is one of the 4 best anyways.  Both FSU AND Georgia would smoke Washington and probably Texas.

Glad they’re expanding the playoff so this current CFP format sh*t-show can finally come to an end.  

[PFSIKH]

On 12/8/2023 at 12:15 PM, JagsFanJif said:

The committee had FSU ranked #4 and Texas #7, knowing Tate Rodemaker was in the concussion protocol and not going to play. just a few days before Championship Sat.  Texas played #19 Oklahoma St. and FSU played #15 Louisville.  FSU beat the higher ranked team, holding an offense that puts up 30pts a game to 6 pts but Texas playing a team that doesnt know you're allowed to play defense jumps 4 spots and FSU, falls?  That makes zero sense. 

Why wasnt Texas ranked higher than FSU going into the weekend?  If you do that, at least you're telling the world the truth and letting FSU know that winning isnt enough, and that they dont care if Rodemaker was coming back, you better blow them out by 40 so you dont have to explain why a team playing a lesser opponent, jumped FSU.

Also, Texas lost at home, to a 2 loss team in Oklahoma.  Georgia went undefeated in the regular season in the SEC and lost in a neutral site championship game to Alabama.  Who's loss is worse?  Who's road harder? How many times has the loser of the SEC championship game, gone on to win the Nat'y? 

So even if you want to argue the committee snubbing FSU was correct (I would still disagree because I think FSU could ugly up a game w/ that defense and have just enough playmakers on offense to give them a punchers chance), there is no doubt in my mind Georgia would smoke Texas, Washington and Michigan w/ ease. 

College Football is broken and this decision made it much much worse.  Dont even get me into the transfer portal, NIL, eligibility and strength of schedule conversation.  These teams are not competing at all on a level playing field. 

 

 

A podcast I listen to, his theory is that the committee ranked the teams on what they were projected to be after the championship games.   

Georgia and Oregon were favorites.  Oregon a 9 point favorite to the team they lost to.  If they win as 'projected', Georgia and Michigan maintain 1 and 2.  Washington drops out.  FSU slides up and Oregon comes in at #4.  It would be easier to justify putting Oregon in.

That is why they play the game.  

That left the committee with three champions and two slots.  Alabama and Texas' significant wins were better than Florida State.  Then you have the QB issue.

I agree that CFB is broken.

[UntouchableCrew]

On 12/8/2023 at 1:15 PM, JagsFanJif said:

The committee had FSU ranked #4 and Texas #7, knowing Tate Rodemaker was in the concussion protocol and not going to play. just a few days before Championship Sat.  Texas played #19 Oklahoma St. and FSU played #15 Louisville.  FSU beat the higher ranked team, holding an offense that puts up 30pts a game to 6 pts but Texas playing a team that doesnt know you're allowed to play defense jumps 4 spots and FSU, falls?  That makes zero sense. 

Why wasnt Texas ranked higher than FSU going into the weekend?  If you do that, at least you're telling the world the truth and letting FSU know that winning isnt enough, and that they dont care if Rodemaker was coming back, you better blow them out by 40 so you dont have to explain why a team playing a lesser opponent, jumped FSU.

All of the committee rankings prior to the last one are just a TV product/TV show. They've demonstrated since the beginning that they'll just kind of do whatever they want in the end.

On 12/8/2023 at 1:15 PM, JagsFanJif said:

Also, Texas lost at home, to a 2 loss team in Oklahoma.  Georgia went undefeated in the regular season in the SEC and lost in a neutral site championship game to Alabama.  Who's loss is worse?  Who's road harder? How many times has the loser of the SEC championship game, gone on to win the Nat'y? 

They pick and choose which criteria they'd like to make their case. Some years it's conference titles, others its best wins, others its best losses. There's no real rhyme or reason to it.

On 12/8/2023 at 1:15 PM, JagsFanJif said:

So even if you want to argue the committee snubbing FSU was correct (I would still disagree because I think FSU could ugly up a game w/ that defense and have just enough playmakers on offense to give them a punchers chance), there is no doubt in my mind Georgia would smoke Texas, Washington and Michigan w/ ease. 

 

The whole "best four" narrative never really makes any sense but because it's ultimately subjective -- but I think everyone thinks UGA is probably one of the "best four." Not sure I buy they'd smoke Texas though. I think the "best version" of Texas is better than the best version of pretty much anyone else.

On 12/8/2023 at 1:15 PM, JagsFanJif said:

College Football is broken and this decision made it much much worse.  Dont even get me into the transfer portal, NIL, eligibility and strength of schedule conversation.  These teams are not competing at all on a level playing field. 

College football has never been played on a level playing field.

[UntouchableCrew]

On 12/8/2023 at 3:37 PM, Jetsfan80 said:

Yes to all of this.

The NCAA Basketball tournament is about including the most deserving teams, not the best 68.

I know it’s much harder when you’re only choosing 4 teams, but I still disagree fundamentally that it should be the “4 best”.  It should have been the 4 “most deserving”.  Because as you say, there is no universe where Washington is one of the 4 best anyways.  Both FSU AND Georgia would smoke Washington and probably Texas.

Glad they’re expanding the playoff so this current CFP format sh*t-show can finally come to an end.  

Even before the Travis injury FSU would have been dogs to Texas. They haven't always played to their potential but they have elite level talent and better players in the trenches than FSU imo.