freestater Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 simple question. Two extreme choices. Either you run it back with everyone and a hopefully healthy Rodgers, or clean the slate. GM, HC, QB all new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New York Mick Posted December 17, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 17, 2023 Does it really matter? It never changes. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post varjet Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 If Rodgers is cut the Jets literally will not have the cap room to sign 53 players. It will be a complete fiasco. Keeping JD and Saleh on their last lame duck years of their contracts is not a reward or a favor. It is punishment. Let them work for their futures and try to make something of this mess in 2024, and maybe give the fans a playoff run. Then you clean late, but Woody has to promise not to be involved with the team in any capacity, anymore. I am not a STH, and I would not so long as Woody Johnson had any active role with this team. He is the one common denominator. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On record as not liking the Rodgers trade, so I have to pick Fire them all, because I think the only way JD has a chance to stick is if he grows a pair and fires Saleh and his staff and finds himself a GENIUS on the offensive side of the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Not sure how anyone could want to run it back with jd and saleh. jd is giving Matt millen a run for his money. And saleh runs a good defense but also oversees a historically bad offense. The team under his watch also commits tons of penalty’s. Very undisciplined 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted December 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2023 Clean house. This is historic incompetence. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 6 hours ago, freestater said: simple question. Two extreme choices. Either you run it back with everyone and a hopefully healthy Rodgers, or clean the slate. GM, HC, QB all new. At the very least ,I hope Bobby double bogey’s the first hole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, varjet said: Then you clean late, but Woody has to promise not to be involved with the team in any capacity, anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Until this team shows more consistency, I won’t ever be optimistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw89 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Seems like ages ago when Rodgers made that 1 handed Int in practice. Things were looking up 🙃 Whether you like it or not they're all staying. I don't want to hear about anything other than O Line, O Line, more O Line, WR2, QB2/3 and even more O line in the off-season. Doubt any top free agents will want to come here. What a dumpster fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 53 minutes ago, Jigsaw89 said: Seems like ages ago when Rodgers made that 1 handed Int in practice. Things were looking up 🙃 Whether you like it or not they're all staying. I don't want to hear about anything other than O Line, O Line, more O Line, WR2, QB2/3 and even more O line in the off-season. Doubt any top free agents will want to come here. What a dumpster fire. I hope Rodgers retires Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 68JET11 said: On record as not liking the Rodgers trade, so I have to pick Fire them all, because I think the only way JD has a chance to stick is if he grows a pair and fires Saleh and his staff and finds himself a GENIUS on the offensive side of the ball. lol and a magician who can magically make JD a good gm ? He is built 1 of the worst offenses in NFL history. This is not a fluke, he’s been bad at building the O since coming aboard 5 years ago. Time for Joe doughnuts to go, fire him before end of year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet hustle Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: lol and a magician who can magically make JD a good gm ? He is built 1 of the worst offenses in NFL history. This is not a fluke, he’s been bad at building the O since coming aboard 5 years ago. Time for Joe doughnuts to go, fire him before end of year. The same magician that predicted the Jets winning the super bowl on Hard Knocks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 hours ago, freestater said: simple question. Two extreme choices. Either you run it back with everyone and a hopefully healthy Rodgers, or clean the slate. GM, HC, QB all new. In a perfect world, I clean house fully and completely. They've all earned it. I'd keep some of our D, trade away others for assets to help fix the O, and retain a few guys on O (Wilson, Hall, Ruckert, AVT, Tippmann, maybe a few others). But we don't live in a perfect world, we live in the world where no one will be fired, and we're going to run it back with Rodgers in 2024 because the Rodgers deal has no real way out of it. We're wedded to him, or cap dead. Probably for 2024 and 2025 tbh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, JagsFanJif said: Clean house. This is historic incompetence. It's even obvious to Jaguar fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Clean house but let the new GM decide what to do with AR8, should he decide he wants to continue playing. EDIT: Woody would still have to hire a new GM. That certainly wouldn't make me very optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 It's a good and tough question. I voted for answer no 1 keep them all only because of the Rodgers factor. Since they are all in financially next season for AR. Of course you can bring him back and still fire them what could he do about it. If he wants to collect his money. But I'd still give it a shot even though they both deserve to be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Cleaning house is only an option if the replacements are better. New but worse doesn't give me any kind of optimism. You need to find a GM totally fine with Rodgers's antics and knowing that you're patching up the Rodgers experiment and then you get to craft your team. The GM then needs to find a head coach cool with all the same and able to bring in a staff with the same mindset. A DC might be thrilled to have Rodgers on the other side of the ball, but how many good head coaches and offensive coaches want to deal with a QB who is going to tell them what the offense will be and how the game plan goes on gameday? How many quality GMs want to spend the start of their tenure pissing off the QB by ditching all his friends? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 You clean house, you have a massive dead cap woth Rodgers. No decent gm would want the job, limited draft pick, no offense, no qb. It's a cluster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Absolutely a house clean would be the best way to go, but the very real problem with that is JD deliberately made the roster completely handcuffed to his own mortgaging of the future, that it would be virtually impossible for anyone else to do anything. There is tons of dead money coming up tied to void years for completely garbage players who shouldn't be on the team, but who would cost more to cut than keep, including Rodgers who would come at about 4 times the cap hit if cut. While in theory you can see a new GM gets the first year as a free pass for their gutting of the roster, it's also entirely possible no candidate worth a damn would ever want to go anywhere near that job if it won't even be possible for them to do what they want, which is the most likely reason for us getting to suffer through one more year of this disaster, despite it being doomed for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Love Saleh and Rodgers. They just need a functional OL. Saleh has proven all he needs is competency from the Offense, and the modicum of roster competency from the GM. He gets "competency" from his peers, Saleh is a SB contending coach year in year out. He's Pete Carroll 2.0. Keep this dude, fix the weaknesses and build out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vader said: Love Saleh and Rodgers. They just need a functional OL. Saleh has proven all he needs is competency from the Offense, and the modicum of roster competency from the GM. He gets "competency" from his peers, Saleh is a SB contending coach year in year out. He's Pete Carroll 2.0. Keep this dude, fix the weaknesses and build out Saleh is a clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, TuscanyTile2 said: Saleh is a clown. So is Pete Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 9 hours ago, freestater said: simple question. Two extreme choices. Either you run it back with everyone and a hopefully healthy Rodgers, or clean the slate. GM, HC, QB all new. I’d go with a 3rd option. Fire Saleh and JD, but bring back Rodgers to take a beating while our rookie QB sits and learns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Ghost Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 hours ago, varjet said: If Rodgers is cut the Jets literally will not have the cap room to sign 53 players. It will be a complete fiasco. Keeping JD and Saleh on their last lame duck years of their contracts is not a reward or a favor. It is punishment. Let them work for their futures and try to make something of this mess in 2024, and maybe give the fans a playoff run. Then you clean late, but Woody has to promise not to be involved with the team in any capacity, anymore. I am not a STH, and I would not so long as Woody Johnson had any active role with this team. He is the one common denominator. Why would the owner promise not to get involved? Some of you are just ridiculous. If you hate the guy so much, find another team to root for. He owns this one, not you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Look at the Houston Texans and Indianapolis Colts this year. Give me a new GM and a HC in 2024, because I can't take it anymore. At this time next season, I would love to see the Jets sitting at 8-6 in the mix for a chance to make the playoffs. That's who the Colts are this year with their backup quarterback. I'm tired of waiting for results with Joe Douglas. It's not all bad luck for JD. It's a collection of really bad choices in the draft and free agency that have hurt this franchise. Joe must go and Saleh has to go too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Neither. Neither make me optimistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: It's even obvious to Jaguar fans. I think you should have put me in the poll options. 3. JiF never roots for this team again, like for real this time. Jags have lost 3 straight since I became a "fan". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, JagsFanJif said: I think you should have put me in the poll options. 3. JiF never roots for this team again, like for real this time. Jags have lost 3 straight since I became a "fan". I think it was just Southern hospitality on their part. They wanted to ease you into Jags' fandom by making you feel comfortable with stuff you already know! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsman Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 where is option 3 woody selling the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Neither scenario makes me optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68JET11 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: lol and a magician who can magically make JD a good gm ? He is built 1 of the worst offenses in NFL history. This is not a fluke, he’s been bad at building the O since coming aboard 5 years ago. Time for Joe doughnuts to go, fire him before end of year. Think what you want, but JD has not been terrible. There is talent on this team. Unfortunate injuries, and I'm guessing that with an offensive minded OC, or HC we would be in a much different position than Saleh's record. I'm not saying JD should stay, but he's not the only reason we suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 12 hours ago, JagsFanJif said: Clean house. This is historic incompetence. Yeah it’s all you can do at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 18 hours ago, freestater said: simple question. Two extreme choices. Either you run it back with everyone and a hopefully healthy Rodgers, or clean the slate. GM, HC, QB all new. I don't think I want a QB developed by another HC who is learning on the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I think it is time for people to come to the realization that for one, JD is not who we all hoped he was, and two, Saleh is not a good coach. I HATE the excuse that this front office is running with regarding the injuries to the line and Rodgers. Prime example is the Browns. The Browns have started PJ Walker, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, and Joe Flacco at QB. They lost both of their starting tackles and one of their backups. Their center is hurt. Their top guard is hurt and they lost Nick Chubb. They currently sit at 9-5 in the playoff hunt. **** you Saleh. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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