There isn't a QB who ever played the game that could succeed behind this line

[Flashlite80]

If you watched the first half today, there is nothing left to say.

Fire Joe D and before he builds the fifth iteration of the worst line in the league.

 

[sciond]

100%

[Ron Rico]

I agree, last week was a fluke for Sad Sack.

[bd71]

Agree.  Granted the AVT injury hurts but the depth is awful.  Just a terrible job by JD.

[Origen]

Becton looks like a bad joke

[Integrity28]

2 minutes ago, Ron Rico said:

I agree, last week was a fluke for Sad Sack.

Last week was the inevitable anomaly that fools the org into investing in Zach further. Nothing more.

[Vader]

1 minute ago, bd71 said:

Agree.  Granted the AVT injury hurts but the depth is awful.  Just a terrible job by JD.

AVT wouldn't even fix it 

[NorthCoastJetsFan]

3 minutes ago, Origen said:

Becton looks like a bad joke

He looks like he's wearing roller skates

 

[BornJetsFan1983]

8 minutes ago, Flashlite80 said:

If you watched the first half today, there is nothing left to say.

Fire Joe D and before he builds the fifth iteration of the worst line in the league.

 

We literally saw it last week. It's just game plan, coaching and discipline. 

We were unprepared today and it shows.

Zach again was not the problem. The jets need to fire Hackett but they won't. They want him next year for rodgers.thsts probably the right thing to do because this season is lost. If you were going to do the right thing and fire him it would have been long ago. No need to now

[BornJetsFan1983]

3 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Last week was the inevitable anomaly that fools the org into investing in Zach further. Nothing more.

It was just a second half with decent play calling

[New York Mick]

My first mock draft - what do you guys think  

• 7.
  
  JC Latham

  OT Alabama
• 73.
  
  Zach Frazier

  OC West Virginia
• 104.
  
  Delmar Glaze

  OT Maryland
• 111.
  
  Brandon Coleman

  OG TCU
• 166.
  
  Zak Zinter

  OG Michigan

[Barton]

Oline looked equally as bad last year and then when competent QBs entered the game, they looked better.

Translation: They do suck but Zach holds the ball too long and doesnt physically move in the right directions when sensing pressure -- making them look worse than they really are. 

[Vader]

Team seriously needs to draft 3 or 4 OL and also make some trades / FA pickups. It is just not a pro football OL right now. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

Another Zach excuse thread yay

[Matt39]

He quit on the field. Our fanbase sucks.

[The Engineer]

32 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Last week was the inevitable anomaly that fools the org into investing in Zach further. Nothing more.

God what dumb ass takes. Last week he had time to throw vs what just happened (and im not even a zw truther). Try watching these games less high and/or less drunk. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 minute ago, The Engineer said:

God what dumb ass takes. Last week he had time to throw vs what just happened (and im not even a zw truther). Try watching these games less high and/or less drunk. 

Zach can’t make a pre-snap read.  It has only been 3 years.  He is a very limited qb

[Bleedin Green]

There also isn't an offensive unit that could ever succeed with this QB.

[shuler82]

There are reasons to fire JD.  Not having starting quality 7th string guards and tackles isn’t one of them. Two years in a row the line has been decimated by injuries.

[TuscanyTile2]

31 minutes ago, Barton said:

Oline looked equally as bad last year and then when competent QBs entered the game, they looked better.

Translation: They do suck but Zach holds the ball too long and doesnt physically move in the right directions when sensing pressure -- making them look worse than they really are. 

Come on.  The OL was a complete disaster.  

[FidelioJet]

1 minute ago, shuler82 said:

There are reasons to fire JD.  Not having starting quality 7th string guards and tackles isn’t one of them. Two years in a row the line has been decimated by injuries.

So, if he runs it out with the same guys again next year (like the year before) and they all get hurt...

Not his fault again?

Reality is, JD managed the OL this off-season about as poorly as it possibly could.

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, shuler82 said:

There are reasons to fire JD.  Not having starting quality 7th string guards and tackles isn’t one of them. Two years in a row the line has been demolished by injuries.

I want Saleh gone.  And it makes no sense to fire Saleh but have JD hire a HC while on a lame duck contract.  How many quality HC's would want the job in such a situation?

[Ulrich]

And Hackett compounds it as the NFL’s worst OC not only this season but last season. 

Fangio like almost every DC took Hackett behind the woodshed and then some. 

Hackett’s play calls are minuscule in number and creativity compared to his counterpart across the field today. And other good modern OC. 

Hackett’s tendencies are obviously glaring to any competent DC. 

[playtowinthegame]

I can't waith for the everyone is fired press conference on black Monday.

[Ken Schroy]

18 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Another Zach excuse thread yay

Agreed. Lets start it's a good OL but Zach sux thread. Both can suck skippy.

[Ken Schroy]

12 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Zach can’t make a pre-snap read.  It has only been 3 years.  He is a very limited qb

Yeah, the pre snap read today was "take cover". LOL

[Flea Flicking Frank]

48 minutes ago, Barton said:

Oline looked equally as bad last year and then when competent QBs entered the game, they looked better.

Completely false, Typical dumb jet fan Bs 

[BigRy56]

The OL isn’t an independent unit. Whoever is playing QB has a huge impact impact on them. Zach and his absolute lack of ability to play the QB position is a big reason for the OL struggles.

It’s not the only reason and their individual abilities aren’t helping, but Zach is a huge contributor here. The guy can’t read a defense and diagnose a rush/coverage to save his life 

[Ken Schroy]

4 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

The OL isn’t an independent unit. Whoever is playing QB has a huge impact impact on them. Zach and his absolute lack of ability to play the QB position is a big reason for the OL struggles.

It’s not the only reason and their individual abilities aren’t helping, but Zach is a huge contributor here. The guy can’t read a defense and diagnose a rush/coverage to save his life 

Yes, this OL is very underrated. Becton is way better than he looked not blocking the guy right in front of him today.

[Esquire]

We got angry with Zach when it was reported that he was reluctant to come back and play this year.  Who in their right mind would want to play behind this line?  Saleh and Douglas should not be allowed on the plane back to New York.  M

[BigRy56]

14 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said:

Yes, this OL is very underrated. Becton is way better than he looked not blocking the guy right in front of him today.

Not exactly what I was saying. If you don’t think that a competent QB changes how the OL plays then I don’t know what to tell you

[Barton]

32 minutes ago, Flea Flicking Frank said:

Completely false, Typical dumb jet fan Bs 

Right and the offense under Mike White didnt get more yards per game, right? 

 

[Ken Schroy]

6 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

Not exactly what I was saying. If you don’t think that a competent QB changes how the OL plays then I don’t know what to tell you

Changes? Helps maybe? Yes. Rescues? NO. This OL has guys that don't block the guy directly in front of them. That's not pre snap, signals, etc. That's lack of ability, period.

[TuscanyTile2]

24 minutes ago, Ken Schroy said:

Yes, this OL is very underrated. Becton is way better than he looked not blocking the guy right in front of him today.

"I see ghosts out there"

-Mekhi

[Flea Flicking Frank]

8 minutes ago, Barton said:

Right and the offense under Mike White didnt get more yards per game, right? 

 

Stop being a dumb dumb, Mike whites jets career ended with 8 TDs and 12 interceptions, jet fans act like he was Kurt Warner. His last game as a jet was an ass whooping by Seattle where he threw 0 touchdowns and 2 interceptions