2026

[JohnnyLV]

Is realistically our best case scenario for getting to the playoffs again.

This coaching staff even with Rodgers has no chance to make the playoffs and there is WAY less than a 50% chance he even plays the whole season,

Then we tear it down in 2025, new GM coach and systems.

And if we can identify a QB in 2025 and still have Sauce, JJ and Wilson on their final years there is an outside chance we can make the playoffs in Year 2 of the new QBs career.

There is no good scenario in keeping this coaching staff and Rodgers. It would have to basically buck every established trend in the NFL and for this team.

[DoubleDown]

No worries.  We're only on year 7 of the 12 year rebuild plan.

[Saul Goodman]

The sh*tty thing is that we used two good draft picks and so much freaking cap space on Rodgers that we can’t possibly plug all of the holes this off-season.

I really want one of the blue chip prospects (Williams, Maye, MHJ, Alt, Fashanu) but we are probably best off trading down if we get a top-5 pick. Do it again in 2025 and we might be able to build a functional offense. 

[K_O_Brien]

2025 is realistic. 

Rookie head coaches can turn things around in year one, if they have any level of competence. Steichen, Ryans, McDaniels, Siranni, O'Connell, Daboll all hit the ground running. 

Heck, even the Jets used to make the playoffs with rookie head coaches in Mangini and Ryan. Bowles didn't, but still won ten games. 

You generally can get a decent feel for what you have in a head coach in their first season. 

[JohnnyLV]

3 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

2025 is realistic. 

Rookie head coaches can turn things around in year one, if they have any level of competence. Steichen, Ryans, McDaniels, Siranni, O'Connell, Daboll all hit the ground running. 

Heck, even the Jets used to make the playoffs with rookie head coaches in Mangini and Ryan. Bowles didn't, but still won ten games. 

You generally can get a decent feel for what you have in a head coach in their first season. 

Who is the 2025 QB? Not going to be Rodgers

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, K_O_Brien said:

2025 is realistic. 

Rookie head coaches can turn things around in year one, if they have any level of competence. Steichen, Ryans, McDaniels, Siranni, O'Connell, Daboll all hit the ground running. 

Heck, even the Jets used to make the playoffs with rookie head coaches in Mangini and Ryan. Bowles didn't, but still won ten games. 

You generally can get a decent feel for what you have in a head coach in their first season. 

Agreed. 2024 we're screwed because we're running it back but 2025 we'll probably have a new HC and a rookie QB. That combo can win quickly.

[UntouchableCrew]

Just now, JohnnyLV said:

Who is the 2025 QB? Not going to be Rodgers

Probably a rookie after we suck again next year.

[T0mShane]

This team beat the Eagles and Bills with the worst QB in the sport. The division is going to suck next year. Get the OL patched up, get Davante in here, add a few position coaches and they can go 10-7, 11-5. The QB position is the the most impactful position in sports, and the Saleh Jets have been dealing with a catastrophic loser at that spot for three years. No coaching staff could overcome Zach Wilson. 

[Greensleeves]

We can easily make the playoffs next year with Arod - no question. Have you guys paid attention to the history of the NFL? Peyton Manning gets hurt and the Colts become worst team in the league - 2-14 - the year before that they won the division and lost to the Jets in the playoffs. Colts picked Luck and went 11-5 and to the playoffs. It's all about the QB. The same team without Manning went 2-14 and with Manning went 10-6.

[K_O_Brien]

Just now, JohnnyLV said:

Who is the 2025 QB? Not going to be Rodgers

A rookie. Don't know who, but pair him up with a offensive-minded HC.  

[jbt]

Peace in the Middle East is closer than the jets making the playoffs 

[chirorob]

Typo

The Jets will have a chance in 2062.  So, we have that going for us, which is nice.

[slimjasi]

13 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This team beat the Eagles and Bills with the worst QB in the sport. The division is going to suck next year. Get the OL patched up, get Davante in here, add a few position coaches and they can go 10-7, 11-5. The QB position is the the most impactful position in sports, and the Saleh Jets have been dealing with a catastrophic loser at that spot for three years. No coaching staff could overcome Zach Wilson. 

The reality is those were borderline miracle wins driven by the fact that the other QB threw us the ball a bunch of times. 

This coaching staff is never winning anything big, Rodgers or no Rodgers. And, by his own admission, Saleh helped pick Zach Wilson. 

The Jets have had 5 games in their history with 103 yards or fewer of total offense. Robert Saleh has been the coach of 3 fo them. He's a loser with no clue how to coach offense. 

[ChrebetOverKeyshawn]

Whats hilarious is, in todays game teams rebuild as quickly as one offseason. This is the 3rd or 4th old school “multi year/ground up” rebuild for the Jets since 2010 and they still can’t come close. 2015 was fun though. 

[#27TheDominator]

26 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This team beat the Eagles and Bills with the worst QB in the sport. The division is going to suck next year. Get the OL patched up, get Davante in here, add a few position coaches and they can go 10-7, 11-5. The QB position is the the most impactful position in sports, and the Saleh Jets have been dealing with a catastrophic loser at that spot for three years. No coaching staff could overcome Zach Wilson. 

I never know what to make of that.  People rant about not being able to beat the good teams.  I think we have proven that we can beat good teams.  We just have not proven that we can win more than we lose, or beat the sh*tty Patriots who we play twice a year.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?  Which means we are closer to turning the corner?  I am a little scared of what they are going to give up to take on Davante Adams.  We have a nicely developing young team saddled with an old lunatic at QB.  I don't know what is coming.  

[#27TheDominator]

20 minutes ago, ChrebetOverKeyshawn said:

Whats hilarious is, in todays game teams rebuild as quickly as one offseason. This is the 3rd or 4th old school “multi year/ground up” rebuild for the Jets since 2010 and they still can’t come close. 2015 was fun though. 

I think a total overhaul should only take 3 years.  Stem to stern.  IMO this team has talent, but is not built to win.  I actually think they are pretty close, but obviously not close enough.  I assume they go into next year with Rodgers.  He either goes off or they tank and clean house.  Again.  I think we all know which is more likely.  

[T0mShane]

42 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

He's a loser with no clue how to coach offense. 

Who quarterbacked those games? 

[T0mShane]

23 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

I never know what to make of that.  People rant about not being able to beat the good teams.  I think we have proven that we can beat good teams.  We just have not proven that we can win more than we lose, or beat the sh*tty Patriots who we play twice a year.  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?  Which means we are closer to turning the corner?  I am a little scared of what they are going to give up to take on Davante Adams.  We have a nicely developing young team saddled with an old lunatic at QB.  I don't know what is coming.  

I think the only way to think about what’s coming is just to pray that Rodgers is upright when they get a Wild Card game in Cincinnati next year, and then go from there. 

[dbatesman]

How about that Rodgers trade, huh guys

[slimjasi]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Who quarterbacked those games? 

He's 3-11 without Zach Wilson and 2-5 with Mike White. 

I'm sure a healthy and motivated Aaron Rodgers could drag him to the playoffs, but that doesn't mean he should be your long term answer at HC. Go get an offensive coach while you have Aaron Rodgers, Breece Hall, and Garrett Wilson under contract and try to build an elite offense for a change. 

 

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, JohnnyLV said:

Is realistically our best case scenario for getting to the playoffs again.

This coaching staff even with Rodgers has no chance to make the playoffs and there is WAY less than a 50% chance he even plays the whole season,

Then we tear it down in 2025, new GM coach and systems.

And if we can identify a QB in 2025 and still have Sauce, JJ and Wilson on their final years there is an outside chance we can make the playoffs in Year 2 of the new QBs career.

There is no good scenario in keeping this coaching staff and Rodgers. It would have to basically buck every established trend in the NFL and for this team.

You will be talking Super Bowl in the August.  Who are we kidding here?

[T0mShane]

40 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

He's 3-11 without Zach Wilson and 2-5 with Mike White. 

I'm sure a healthy and motivated Aaron Rodgers could drag him to the playoffs, but that doesn't mean he should be your long term answer at HC. Go get an offensive coach while you have Aaron Rodgers, Breece Hall, and Garrett Wilson under contract and try to build an elite offense for a change. 

 

So, you can’t go get any coach with options to take a job where he gets Aaron Rodgers for two years and then it’s implosion/rebuild time. Nobody is taking that job. If, say, Saleh quit and everyone followed him out the door, you’d have to hire a veteran coach with no other options, like Frank Reich or Ron Rivera. Upgrades? Maybe. I am no fan of Saleh, but it’s indisputable that his program has been weighed down by the drafting of Zach Wilson. 

[bitonti]

2 hours ago, Saul Goodman said:

really want one of the blue chip prospects (Williams, Maye, MHJ, Alt, Fashanu)

Every thread is about Joe alt but we should all emotionally prepare ourselves for the Jets picking 6th in a 5 man draft 

They'd have to go wr Nabers, right? Or trade it to LVR for Adams. That feels like a Joe Douglas move 

[slimjasi]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

So, you can’t go get any coach with options to take a job where he gets Aaron Rodgers for two years and then it’s implosion/rebuild time. Nobody is taking that job. If, say, Saleh quit and everyone followed him out the door, you’d have to hire a veteran coach with no other options, like Frank Reich or Ron Rivera. Upgrades? Maybe. I am no fan of Saleh, but it’s indisputable that his program has been weighed down by the drafting of Zach Wilson. 

 I don’t buy the “nobody will take the job” stuff. I guarantee you could find a decent offensive coach who would be excited to coach Rodgers for a couple of years. Either way, any first time offensive coach you like is probably my worth replacing Saleh for.

The Dolphins were missing Tyreek Hill, their starting center, their starting right guard, and their RT got hurt during the game. And that’s just on offense. They looked competent. That’s what good coaching looks like. We don’t have that.

 

[peebag]

2 hours ago, T0mShane said:

This team beat the Eagles and Bills with the worst QB in the sport. The division is going to suck next year. Get the OL patched up, get Davante in here, add a few position coaches and they can go 10-7, 11-5. The QB position is the the most impactful position in sports, and the Saleh Jets have been dealing with a catastrophic loser at that spot for three years. No coaching staff could overcome Zach Wilson. 

can't wait until we go 9-8 and miss the playoffs and keep everyone saying "next year, boys next year!"

[Beerfish]

 

[Raideraholic]

14 hours ago, bitonti said:

Every thread is about Joe alt but we should all emotionally prepare ourselves for the Jets picking 6th in a 5 man draft 

They'd have to go wr Nabers, right? Or trade it to LVR for Adams. That feels like a Joe Douglas move 

Jets should forget trading for D Adams .    It’s not going to be cheap ( Raiders have to eat a lot of money if he’s traded - already eating money for C Jones, and Jimmy G) .Raiders and everyone knows how desperate the Jets are to win it all with A Rodgers .    The cost is going to be their number 1 and a  Jet defensive starter.       They don’t get that he will be staying with the Raiders .   The Raiders will get that because you put d Adams on the Jets ( hire Raiders oline coach - Carmen Bricillo - no guarantee he’s back if new coach staff comes in. He would put out a competent offense line has a good eye for late date draft picks.   Jets would give themselves best chance to win it all.      The Jets real Gm a Rodgers wants it- so they will pay the Raiders expensive price.

[TuscanyTile2]

14 hours ago, T0mShane said:

So, you can’t go get any coach with options to take a job where he gets Aaron Rodgers for two years and then it’s implosion/rebuild time. Nobody is taking that job. If, say, Saleh quit and everyone followed him out the door, you’d have to hire a veteran coach with no other options, like Frank Reich or Ron Rivera. Upgrades? Maybe. I am no fan of Saleh, but it’s indisputable that his program has been weighed down by the drafting of Zach Wilson. 

I can guarantee you that Saleh isn't quitting.  He was a hot commodity when we hired him but he won't be if we show him the door after this season (and a kick in the arse out the door is what he deserves).

[TuscanyTile2]

3 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

Jets should forget trading for D Adams .    It’s not going to be cheap ( Raiders have to eat a lot of money if he’s traded - already eating money for C Jones, and Jimmy G) .Raiders and everyone knows how desperate the Jets are to win it all with A Rodgers .    The cost is going to be their number 1 and a  Jet defensive starter.       They don’t get that he will be staying with the Raiders .   The Raiders will get that because you put d Adams on the Jets ( hire Raiders oline coach - Carmen Bricillo - no guarantee he’s back if new coach staff comes in. He would put out a competent offense line has a good eye for late date draft picks.   Jets would give themselves best chance to win it all.      The Jets real Gm a Rodgers wants it- so they will pay the Raiders expensive price.

The Jets aren't winning it all.  But I agree that the Raiders will take JD to the cleaners if he wants to trade for Devante Adams.  It would be an incredibly stupid decision for the Jets to trade for DA but that's why I could see it happening.

[TuscanyTile2]

17 hours ago, JohnnyLV said:

Is realistically our best case scenario for getting to the playoffs again.

This coaching staff even with Rodgers has no chance to make the playoffs and there is WAY less than a 50% chance he even plays the whole season,

Then we tear it down in 2025, new GM coach and systems.

And if we can identify a QB in 2025 and still have Sauce, JJ and Wilson on their final years there is an outside chance we can make the playoffs in Year 2 of the new QBs career.

There is no good scenario in keeping this coaching staff and Rodgers. It would have to basically buck every established trend in the NFL and for this team.

The fact that many of us are already thinking we have to endure next season before this franchise is able to make the changes that are necessary for the year after makes things especially painful. 

Next year is a "go for it all" year but who in their right mind could get enthusiastic about that right now after what we've seen this year?! 

The OL needs to a major overhaul.  We have only 1 WR and are stuck with Lazard for another year.  Hopefully Breece will return to full strength next year but who knows.  We don't know if we even have anything at RB after that (will Izzy's blocking improve enough to be an NFL player next year?)  Our TEs are kind of meh (and IIRC, Uzomah will still be on the books next year!)

As far as improving this team in the offseason, we have no 2nd round pick and we just lost a year of talented young players playing on their cheap rookie contracts. 

Football is difficult to predict so this isn't set in stone but it feels to me like next year will be an obvious case of fool's gold followed by Woody cleaning house (GM, CS, QB).  Will we be in position to draft a QB next year though (assuming there even is one to draft)?  Or will we all be like "Oh shoot!  We should've drafted one when we had the chance last year."

[FidelioJet]

Anyone expecting 41 year old Rodgers to lead this team to the Promised Land is setting themselves up for massive disappointment.

Outside shot at a wildcard is possible, but,IMO, it's more likely the team goes 7 and 10.

 

[FidelioJet]

We shouldn't expect the D to be as good either.  Losing Huff will be a MAJOR blow along with the leader of the defense in Mosely. 

It should still be good but I wouldn't count on it being as good as it was this year....

 

[TuscanyTile2]

19 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

We shouldn't expect the D to be as good either.  Losing Huff will be a MAJOR blow along with the leader of the defense in Mosely. 

It should still be good but I wouldn't count on it being as good as it was this year....

 

[Cut Jet Penalty Makers]

17 hours ago, JohnnyLV said:

Is realistically our best case scenario for getting to the playoffs again.

This coaching staff even with Rodgers has no chance to make the playoffs and there is WAY less than a 50% chance he even plays the whole season,

Then we tear it down in 2025, new GM coach and systems.

And if we can identify a QB in 2025 and still have Sauce, JJ and Wilson on their final years there is an outside chance we can make the playoffs in Year 2 of the new QBs career.

There is no good scenario in keeping this coaching staff and Rodgers. It would have to basically buck every established trend in the NFL and for this team.

Good post but you're a year late...logically, all of this should start in'24, not '25.

[rangerous]

17 hours ago, JohnnyLV said:

Is realistically our best case scenario for getting to the playoffs again.

This coaching staff even with Rodgers has no chance to make the playoffs and there is WAY less than a 50% chance he even plays the whole season,

Then we tear it down in 2025, new GM coach and systems.

And if we can identify a QB in 2025 and still have Sauce, JJ and Wilson on their final years there is an outside chance we can make the playoffs in Year 2 of the new QBs career.

There is no good scenario in keeping this coaching staff and Rodgers. It would have to basically buck every established trend in the NFL and for this team.

Good points about the young guys.  One or more will be gone by 2026 unless they take some good deals.  As for qb, I agree they need to draft one or more to get ready when Rodgers does leave. At this point it’s hard to say if Rodgers will play only this next season or try to play for a couple more.  Coach? Saleh is on a blistering hot seat and will be all next season.  He needed to stop with all this locker room love bs long ago.  Funny how he uses love and violence when describing the players and what he wants to see.  How about execution and play making? I would not be surprised to see saleh launched the day after the last game.