TuscanyTile2 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 On Benigno's interview on WFAN with Evan and Tiki, they mentioned that AR8 still wants to come back and play this season. Some thoughts/questions: Maybe AR8 doesn't want the organization to make rash moves. Maybe he wants to get in there and show that they can win with him in there and create some momentum and good feelings for next season? Will JD/Saleh allow AR8 to play? Aside from it opening up the possibility for this franchise to utterly and completely go down in flames if he gets injured, isn't AR8 the only thing potentially keeping JD/Saleh in their jobs next season? If he gets hurt, they're probably both gone (and AR8 might retire anyway). From AR8's perspective, if he gets hurt but doesn't retire, I would think the Jets will absolutely try to draft a QB in the 1st round. Obviously that wouldn't be the approach that he'd want. How much does it matter to AR8 to prove he can come back from the injury in record time? Does he see this as part of his legacy? I think that's part of his motivation but certainly not the main part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 Let him do it and blow out his other Achilles so we can get rid of him 3 5 1 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Let him do it and blow out his other Achilles so we can get rid of him It would certainly answer a lot of questions and solve a lot of problems 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Fine....let him handoff a few plays in a last game series. Whatever. And lets everyone stop with the 'AR won't want a QB drafted' bullish*t....anyone with half a brain, and AR has more intellect than that, would understand why the NYJ need to also draft a QB next year. The NYJ will draft OL in rounds 1 and 3, maybe more if they trade down, and look for a QB in the later rounds like a Pratt in rounds 4 or 5. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Fine....let him handoff a few plays in a last game series. Whatever. And lets everyone stop with the 'AR won't want a QB drafted' bullish*t....anyone with half a brain, and AR has more intellect than that, would understand why the NYJ need to also draft a QB next year. The NYJ will draft OL in rounds 1 and 3, maybe more if they trade down, and look for a QB in the later rounds like a Pratt in rounds 4 or 5. That's the question though. Will the QB taken with our 1st rounder (potentially a top 5 pick)? A QB in the 4th or 5th round isn't anything controversial. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: On Benigno's interview on WFAN with Evan and Tiki, they mentioned that AR8 still wants to come back and play this season. Some thoughts/questions: Maybe AR8 doesn't want the organization to make rash moves. Maybe he wants to get in there and show that they can win with him in there and create some momentum and good feelings for next season? Will JD/Saleh allow AR8 to play? Aside from it opening up the possibility for this franchise to utterly and completely go down in flames if he gets injured, isn't AR8 the only thing potentially keeping JD/Saleh in their jobs next season? If he gets hurt, they're probably both gone (and AR8 might retire anyway). From AR8's perspective, if he gets hurt but doesn't retire, I would think the Jets will absolutely try to draft a QB in the 1st round. Obviously that wouldn't be the approach that he'd want. How much does it matter to AR8 to prove he can come back from the injury in record time? Does he see this as part of his legacy? I think that's part of his motivation but certainly not the main part. Who cares. He wants to play, let him play 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 AR8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolot Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 If he’s medically cleared and he wants to play he is going to play . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Fine....let him handoff a few plays in a last game series. Whatever. And lets everyone stop with the 'AR won't want a QB drafted' bullish*t....anyone with half a brain, and AR has more intellect than that, would understand why the NYJ need to also draft a QB next year. The NYJ will draft OL in rounds 1 and 3, maybe more if they trade down, and look for a QB in the later rounds like a Pratt in rounds 4 or 5. Pratt is good and won’t be there in the 4th. The jets are going to have to figure out how to get him and get an extra pick on day 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSY14 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Who really cares?? The season is over and another year is added to our playoff drought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It doesnt matter what he wants. The jets will not let him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SickJetFan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: On Benigno's interview on WFAN with Evan and Tiki, they mentioned that AR8 still wants to come back and play this season. Some thoughts/questions: Maybe AR8 doesn't want the organization to make rash moves. Maybe he wants to get in there and show that they can win with him in there and create some momentum and good feelings for next season? Will JD/Saleh allow AR8 to play? Aside from it opening up the possibility for this franchise to utterly and completely go down in flames if he gets injured, isn't AR8 the only thing potentially keeping JD/Saleh in their jobs next season? If he gets hurt, they're probably both gone (and AR8 might retire anyway). From AR8's perspective, if he gets hurt but doesn't retire, I would think the Jets will absolutely try to draft a QB in the 1st round. Obviously that wouldn't be the approach that he'd want. How much does it matter to AR8 to prove he can come back from the injury in record time? Does he see this as part of his legacy? I think that's part of his motivation but certainly not the main part. C'mon can it really get any worse...let him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticalJet2 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I believe he will for a couple reasons 1) Completes the narrative for him about coming back quicker than anyone else. Confirms his "experimental" surgery and all the modalities he talks about and keeps him relevant through 2023 season (rather than fading out until 2024) 2) Wants to prove the offense can work, can be productive if run correctly. Saves face for Hackett and gives hope to fans, staff, and other players for the 2024 season. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwave81 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: That's the question though. Will the QB taken with our 1st rounder (potentially a top 5 pick)? A QB in the 4th or 5th round isn't anything controversial. Any QB the Jets take shouldn't be controversial even to AR. There's no one in the building that is an adequate QB2, except for ZW and apparently everyone in the fan base has written him off despite the fact that cap wise, he's the most cost effective QB to retain as backup as he's already under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, greenwave81 said: Any QB the Jets take shouldn't be controversial even to AR. There's no one in the building that is an adequate QB2, except for ZW and apparently everyone in the fan base has written him off despite the fact that cap wise, he's the most cost effective QB to retain as backup as he's already under contract. The problem with ZW is that he can’t even be an effective backup. I think the jets would be ok with it if he were anything close to decent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MysticalJet2 Posted December 19, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2023 22 minutes ago, MysticalJet2 said: I believe he will for a couple reasons 1) Completes the narrative for him about coming back quicker than anyone else. Confirms his "experimental" surgery and all the modalities he talks about and keeps him relevant through 2023 season (rather than fading out until 2024) 2) Wants to prove the offense can work, can be productive if run correctly. Saves face for Hackett and gives hope to fans, staff, and other players for the 2024 season. And I'll add a 3rd reason.. and maybe the most important. The guy has obviously busted his hump to come back from this injury as quick as possible. All the emotional and physical ups and downs he personally went through would be all for not. Coming back and playing in a game this year would give some (obviously not all without playoffs) fulfillment that it was worth it and afford a personal achievement that he set. Think whatever you want about AR8, but he is driven and has always fed off nay sayers and personal achievement - more than any others I have seen in the sport. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 This guy is indeed as much of an attention bitch as was expected. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I really don’t understand how people think this team will draft a qb in rd 1 next year. It only makes sense if the staff is fired. Seems like this franchise is handcuffed to Rodgers, saleh, and JD for next season. They’ll use the pick to try to save everyone’s job and plug a hole, not draft a player nobody will be around to see develop. with that being said, the view point from everyone is this team is a dumpster fire. The jets will have to be aggressive in free agency if everyone is retained to try to compete in their do or die season. A couple of good games with Rodgers behind center could be a good selling point to attract free agents and to change the view of this team. It’s a huge risk throwing him out there but desperate times call for desperate measures. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, extmenace said: I really don’t understand how people think this team will draft a qb in rd 1 next year. It only makes sense if the staff is fired. Seems like this franchise is handcuffed to Rodgers, saleh, and JD for next season. Of course you’re correct that they will NOT use their 1 on a QB. But SHOULD they is the part that is significant: With it being a supposedly loaded QB class and Rodgers’ future uncertain, you would have to at least consider it. But yeah, there’s no incentive for this regime to take a QB so barring a highly unlikely change of mind by Woody on JD and Saleh’s job security, it’s definitely not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extmenace Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Of course you’re correct that they will NOT use their 1 on a QB. But SHOULD they is the part that is significant: With it being a supposedly loaded QB class and Rodgers’ future uncertain, you would have to at least consider it. But yeah, there’s no incentive for this regime to take a QB so barring a highly unlikely change of mind by Woody on JD and Saleh’s job security, it’s definitely not happening. No they shouldn’t. It doesn’t save their jobs. It’s the right move for this franchise long term but not the right move for the coaching staff and front office here right now. There are a lot of jobs on the line, a lot of peoples livelihoods at risk. Nobody is going to willingly sacrifice themselves for the betterment of the franchise. In addition to that, lots of coaching staffs want to go out and get their guy. If the jets drafted a qb and everyone is fired, we’re back in the situation where we’re forcing someone else’s draft pick onto the next coach. Only the Jets could be in the scenario like this where they can draft the qb they need but the timing won’t allow it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Duh.. I always expected him to play at some point to prove it can be done. Let him beat Belichick to end his pats career with a loss to the Jets and send us into into the offseason with positive vibes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: On Benigno's interview on WFAN with Evan and Tiki, they mentioned that AR8 still wants to come back and play this season. Some thoughts/questions: Maybe AR8 doesn't want the organization to make rash moves. Maybe he wants to get in there and show that they can win with him in there and create some momentum and good feelings for next season? Will JD/Saleh allow AR8 to play? Aside from it opening up the possibility for this franchise to utterly and completely go down in flames if he gets injured, isn't AR8 the only thing potentially keeping JD/Saleh in their jobs next season? If he gets hurt, they're probably both gone (and AR8 might retire anyway). From AR8's perspective, if he gets hurt but doesn't retire, I would think the Jets will absolutely try to draft a QB in the 1st round. Obviously that wouldn't be the approach that he'd want. How much does it matter to AR8 to prove he can come back from the injury in record time? Does he see this as part of his legacy? I think that's part of his motivation but certainly not the main part. how do they know for sure? is Benigno texting AR too? lol i was listening to there competition and they said they think Woody would want it cause we got a home game Christmas eve and nobody is going to come to the game. but if Rodgers plays that would make it a must see game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, greenwave81 said: that cap wise, he's the most cost effective QB to retain as backup as he's already under contract. we need to stop that and just get rid of Zach. thats why were in this mess this season because it was cost effective for the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y2k8 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 If the guy is healthy enough to play he should get real time reps in an actual game. Ideally he won't go into Week 1 next year not having completed a pass in 18 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Green Ghost Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, MysticalJet2 said: Think whatever you want about AR8, but he is driven and has always fed off nay sayers and personal achievement - more than any others I have seen in the sport. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 put him in the freezer like a side of beef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 2 hours ago, extmenace said: No they shouldn’t. It doesn’t save their jobs. It’s the right move for this franchise long term but not the right move for the coaching staff and front office here right now. There are a lot of jobs on the line, a lot of peoples livelihoods at risk. Nobody is going to willingly sacrifice themselves for the betterment of the franchise. In addition to that, lots of coaching staffs want to go out and get their guy. If the jets drafted a qb and everyone is fired, we’re back in the situation where we’re forcing someone else’s draft pick onto the next coach. Only the Jets could be in the scenario like this where they can draft the qb they need but the timing won’t allow it. Key is, if there is an excellent QB prospect there when we pick we have to trade down and get the haul we need to rebuild this offense. Heck, if that could happen we could get 2-3 olineman, WR2, and probably a developmental QB in the 3rd or 4th round. That would be our best case scenario. I know we all want Alt, but in place of one great prospect like him I would think it is better for this oline to have 3 olineman at T and G that are very good prospects. You take one player high like we did with Becton and its like you put all your eggs in one basket where either the player is not durable or not as good as advertised like Becton. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 9 hours ago, MysticalJet2 said: I believe he will for a couple reasons 1) Completes the narrative for him about coming back quicker than anyone else. Confirms his "experimental" surgery and all the modalities he talks about and keeps him relevant through 2023 season (rather than fading out until 2024) 2) Wants to prove the offense can work, can be productive if run correctly. Saves face for Hackett and gives hope to fans, staff, and other players for the 2024 season. 3) Chicks dig it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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heymangold Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 let him do it. it's more exciting then seeing wilson or siemian play again. i'd rather watch Rypien play then those 2. what's the worst that happens, he gets hurt again? he'll have 8 months or so to get ready for 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 If he comes back this year the NFL is going to put a bust of his foot in Canton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Biggs said: If he comes back this year the NFL is going to put a bust of his foot in Canton. Right next to the Mike White exhibit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: On Benigno's interview on WFAN with Evan and Tiki, they mentioned that AR8 still wants to come back and play this season. Some thoughts/questions: Maybe AR8 doesn't want the organization to make rash moves. Maybe he wants to get in there and show that they can win with him in there and create some momentum and good feelings for next season? Will JD/Saleh allow AR8 to play? Aside from it opening up the possibility for this franchise to utterly and completely go down in flames if he gets injured, isn't AR8 the only thing potentially keeping JD/Saleh in their jobs next season? If he gets hurt, they're probably both gone (and AR8 might retire anyway). From AR8's perspective, if he gets hurt but doesn't retire, I would think the Jets will absolutely try to draft a QB in the 1st round. Obviously that wouldn't be the approach that he'd want. How much does it matter to AR8 to prove he can come back from the injury in record time? Does he see this as part of his legacy? I think that's part of his motivation but certainly not the main part. I think most fans prefer Rodgers not play these final games except as maybe a back up. But if he does play I think there will finally be some serious accountability on the oline. They won’t be able to get away with matador pass protection and they know it. They will truly know they’re playing for their jobs next season and might just put in a good effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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