Jdeet Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. And maybe win a lot. I guess those that wanted us to bring in Carr, Garoppolo, Minshew, or some other jag, think we could have been a competing playoff team? And what happens next year? Those guys are not good. As far as Aaron, there was always a risk that he would get hurt or lose a step, but he was our best option. Period. We didn’t have a chance to get Lamar Jackson. That was not ever happening. So, please stop with that. He was never leaving Baltimore. We needed to bring in a QB and we brought in a hall of fame QB coming off of 2 MVPs in the last 3 years. How is that a bad move for what turned out to be two 2nd round picks? In retrospect, yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly and yeah, we should have had a better backup option, but no backup was bringing this team to the playoffs. Our offensive line is so putrid that any QB would have been destroyed. I admit I didn’t like Aaron Rodgers, as a person or his personality, at all, before he came here. But he surprised me how much of a team guy he has become. How his players love him and he is a true leader. Yeah some say there is still a selfishness to his attempt to try and comeback quickly. But is that being selfish or is it his desire to help the team win games? Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, he stopped talking about coming back. Yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly. But this guy will be here for at least 2 more years. And no one else we could have acquired would actually give us a chance to be a special team, with the limitations of the talent on offense. Aaron Rodgers was able to work with basically one guy in Davante Adams, in Green Bay, and getting them to compete for the playoffs and their defense was nothing compared to ours. I suppose you can not like the person or his beliefs or his weirdness. He was always our best QB option. And still is. We just need to put more guys around him and pray he doesn’t get hurt. But isn’t that what every team hopes for with their star QB? 2 8 1 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 13 hours ago, Jdeet said: I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. And maybe win a lot. I guess those that wanted us to bring in Carr, Garoppolo, Minshew, or some other jag, think we could have been a competing playoff team? And what happens next year? Those guys are not good. As far as Aaron, there was always a risk that he would get hurt or lose a step, but he was our best option. Period. We didn’t have a chance to get Lamar Jackson. That was not ever happening. So, please stop with that. He was never leaving Baltimore. We needed to bring in a QB and we brought in a hall of fame QB coming off of 2 MVPs in the last 3 years. How is that a bad move for what turned out to be two 2nd round picks? In retrospect, yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly and yeah, we should have had a better backup option, but no backup was bringing this team to the playoffs. Our offensive line is so putrid that any QB would have been destroyed. I admit I didn’t like Aaron Rodgers, as a person or his personality, at all, before he came here. But he surprised me how much of a team guy he has become. How his players love him and he is a true leader. Yeah some say there is still a selfishness to his attempt to try and comeback quickly. But is that being selfish or is it his desire to help the team win games? Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, he stopped talking about coming back. Yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly. But this guy will be here for at least 2 more years. And no one else we could have acquired would actually give us a chance to be a special team, with the limitations of the talent on offense. Aaron Rodgers was able to work with basically one guy in Davante Adams, in Green Bay, and getting them to compete for the playoffs and their defense was nothing compared to ours. I suppose you can not like the person or his beliefs or his weirdness. He was always our best QB option. And still is. We just need to put more guys around him and pray he doesn’t get hurt. But isn’t that what every team hopes for with their star QB? Good points. The jets really needed some serious on field leadership and Rodgers brought a boatload. And he still has the arm strength to make the throws. As an added plus it gave the team time to keep helping Zach develop, which is something they didn’t do in his first two seasons. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 This was definitely the right risk to take. If we signed Jimmy Garropolo or Derek Carr we'd be sitting at probably 7-7 and with Rodgers we'd probably be 9-5. This year was awful no doubt about it but if Rodgers can stay healthy next year I think we'll have a playoff team at least. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfuel66 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 13 hours ago, Jdeet said: I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. And maybe win a lot. I guess those that wanted us to bring in Carr, Garoppolo, Minshew, or some other jag, think we could have been a competing playoff team? And what happens next year? Those guys are not good. As far as Aaron, there was always a risk that he would get hurt or lose a step, but he was our best option. Period. We didn’t have a chance to get Lamar Jackson. That was not ever happening. So, please stop with that. He was never leaving Baltimore. We needed to bring in a QB and we brought in a hall of fame QB coming off of 2 MVPs in the last 3 years. How is that a bad move for what turned out to be two 2nd round picks? In retrospect, yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly and yeah, we should have had a better backup option, but no backup was bringing this team to the playoffs. Our offensive line is so putrid that any QB would have been destroyed. I admit I didn’t like Aaron Rodgers, as a person or his personality, at all, before he came here. But he surprised me how much of a team guy he has become. How his players love him and he is a true leader. Yeah some say there is still a selfishness to his attempt to try and comeback quickly. But is that being selfish or is it his desire to help the team win games? Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, he stopped talking about coming back. Yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly. But this guy will be here for at least 2 more years. And no one else we could have acquired would actually give us a chance to be a special team, with the limitations of the talent on offense. Aaron Rodgers was able to work with basically one guy in Davante Adams, in Green Bay, and getting them to compete for the playoffs and their defense was nothing compared to ours. I suppose you can not like the person or his beliefs or his weirdness. He was always our best QB option. And still is. We just need to put more guys around him and pray he doesn’t get hurt. But isn’t that what every team hopes for with their star QB? Spot on bro. The negative nannies will protest loudly but AR was the correct and best move. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dbatesman Posted December 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 13 hours ago, Jdeet said: I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. Me and my buddies Stump and Gooch watching the offense score 0.5 TDs per week, but telling ourselves "yeah, but trading for Rodgers means we had a chance to win" 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 The move made sense and still does. But the desire to win right now just got upped big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jetfuel66 said: Spot on bro. The negative nannies will protest loudly but AR was the correct and best move. Pretty sure nobody here is solely responsible for the health and welfare of somebody else’s children you ninny. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Me and my buddies Stump and Gooch watching the offense score 0.5 TDs per week, but telling ourselves "yeah, but trading for Rodgers means we had a chance to win" One more friend and you could have each claimed an Aaron Rodgers play as your very own. Now stump gets two that greedy bastard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 68JET11 Posted December 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 This was so the WRONG move, as proved by this season. Even if Rodgers was playing he'd surely be killed by now. The OL was never a strength so how can anyone say this was the right move. The correct move was to keep building this team through the draft and FA. The Steelers/Pats trade never takes place and we have ourselves an OT in the first round last year. Next JD has changed his philosophy and one can only attribute that to Woody, which is always a bad thing when he starts meddling into the Football end of the business. Sit in your owners box and keep your mouth shut. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Hypothetical - Rodgers plays next season and has a top 5 statistical season and Jets make the playoffs and he says he's playing again in 25'. Do we then say, oops my bad, was totally worth it. Or still a dumb trade? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilfieldJet Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I will wait and judge after next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Me and my buddies Stump and Gooch watching the offense score 0.5 TDs per week, but telling ourselves "yeah, but trading for Rodgers means we had a chance to win" Thanks for the laugh lol. But yes, the most comical hilarious joke of all would be not obtaining rodgers, and having Joe doughnuts stand up at the podium and declare to the world that the Jets 100% still believe in Zach Wilson and 2023 is going to be his yr and the jets to shine 🤣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, 68JET11 said: This was so the WRONG move, as proved by this season. Even if Rodgers was playing he'd surely be killed by now. The OL was never a strength so how can anyone say this was the right move. The correct move was to keep building this team through the draft and FA. The Steelers/Pats trade never takes place and we have ourselves an OT in the first round last year. Next JD has changed his philosophy and one can only attribute that to Woody, which is always a bad thing when he starts meddling into the Football end of the business. Sit in your owners box and keep your mouth shut. Agreed, this was a move to compensate for JD's inability to draft a decent QB and OT/OG. Once it was done, we all wanted it to work. Unfortunately for all of us, it blew up in his face. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 47 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Hypothetical - Rodgers plays next season and has a top 5 statistical season and Jets make the playoffs and he says he's playing again in 25'. Do we then say, oops my bad, was totally worth it. Or still a dumb trade? It depends. What are his thoughts on pepto bismol going into 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Hypothetical - Rodgers plays next season and has a top 5 statistical season and Jets make the playoffs and he says he's playing again in 25'. Do we then say, oops my bad, was totally worth it. Or still a dumb trade? Hypothetical. Jets with Rodgers are 8 and 3 and looking like SB favorites. Rodgers suffers a severe shoulder injury, hides it from the team and we lose out and don't make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: Hypothetical - Rodgers plays next season and has a top 5 statistical season and Jets make the playoffs and he says he's playing again in 25'. Do we then say, oops my bad, was totally worth it. Or still a dumb trade? “ If I had balls I’d be king !!” - The Queen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 14 hours ago, Jdeet said: I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. And maybe win a lot. I guess those that wanted us to bring in Carr, Garoppolo, Minshew, or some other jag, think we could have been a competing playoff team? And what happens next year? Those guys are not good. As far as Aaron, there was always a risk that he would get hurt or lose a step, but he was our best option. Period. We didn’t have a chance to get Lamar Jackson. That was not ever happening. So, please stop with that. He was never leaving Baltimore. We needed to bring in a QB and we brought in a hall of fame QB coming off of 2 MVPs in the last 3 years. How is that a bad move for what turned out to be two 2nd round picks? In retrospect, yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly and yeah, we should have had a better backup option, but no backup was bringing this team to the playoffs. Our offensive line is so putrid that any QB would have been destroyed. I admit I didn’t like Aaron Rodgers, as a person or his personality, at all, before he came here. But he surprised me how much of a team guy he has become. How his players love him and he is a true leader. Yeah some say there is still a selfishness to his attempt to try and comeback quickly. But is that being selfish or is it his desire to help the team win games? Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, he stopped talking about coming back. Yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly. But this guy will be here for at least 2 more years. And no one else we could have acquired would actually give us a chance to be a special team, with the limitations of the talent on offense. Aaron Rodgers was able to work with basically one guy in Davante Adams, in Green Bay, and getting them to compete for the playoffs and their defense was nothing compared to ours. I suppose you can not like the person or his beliefs or his weirdness. He was always our best QB option. And still is. We just need to put more guys around him and pray he doesn’t get hurt. But isn’t that what every team hopes for with their star QB? Good post. On Aarons last appearance on the Pat Macfee show, he talked about the talent on the team and went through our entire defense, naming names, stats, etc. Never heard a QB talk in such detail about the other side of the ball. Was kinda nice to hear, and cements (at least in my sick mind) that Aaron really is a team guy. And like you, my impression of Aaron Rodgers had totally changed since coming here. Love the guy, quirks and all. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR.GANGGREEN28 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 hour ago, 68JET11 said: This was so the WRONG move, as proved by this season. Even if Rodgers was playing he'd surely be killed by now. The OL was never a strength so how can anyone say this was the right move. The correct move was to keep building this team through the draft and FA. The Steelers/Pats trade never takes place and we have ourselves an OT in the first round last year. Next JD has changed his philosophy and one can only attribute that to Woody, which is always a bad thing when he starts meddling into the Football end of the business. Sit in your owners box and keep your mouth shut. Just because we made the wrong moves in other areas of the team doesn't mean AR was a wrong move 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Biggs said: Hypothetical. Jets with Rodgers are 8 and 3 and looking like SB favorites. Rodgers suffers a severe shoulder injury, hides it from the team and we lose out and don't make the playoffs. See! Anything can happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Crusher said: “ If I had balls I’d be king !!” - The Queen But is she getting us to the playoffs?? Idkkkkk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 It's pretty simple. No problem with swinging for the fences by trading for Rodgers. Problem with the amount of draft capital given up (Jets had all the leverage), letting Rodgers dictate what coaches and players are brought in, and restructuring his contract to mortgage the mid to long term future of the team. In short, the move was fine in principle. The execution was terrible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Jdeet said: I cannot believe everyone is now destroying the Aaron Rodgers trade. It makes no sense that Jets fans didn’t want a chance to win. And maybe win a lot. I guess those that wanted us to bring in Carr, Garoppolo, Minshew, or some other jag, think we could have been a competing playoff team? And what happens next year? Those guys are not good. As far as Aaron, there was always a risk that he would get hurt or lose a step, but he was our best option. Period. We didn’t have a chance to get Lamar Jackson. That was not ever happening. So, please stop with that. He was never leaving Baltimore. We needed to bring in a QB and we brought in a hall of fame QB coming off of 2 MVPs in the last 3 years. How is that a bad move for what turned out to be two 2nd round picks? In retrospect, yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly and yeah, we should have had a better backup option, but no backup was bringing this team to the playoffs. Our offensive line is so putrid that any QB would have been destroyed. I admit I didn’t like Aaron Rodgers, as a person or his personality, at all, before he came here. But he surprised me how much of a team guy he has become. How his players love him and he is a true leader. Yeah some say there is still a selfishness to his attempt to try and comeback quickly. But is that being selfish or is it his desire to help the team win games? Once we were eliminated from the playoffs, he stopped talking about coming back. Yeah it sucks he got hurt so quickly. But this guy will be here for at least 2 more years. And no one else we could have acquired would actually give us a chance to be a special team, with the limitations of the talent on offense. Aaron Rodgers was able to work with basically one guy in Davante Adams, in Green Bay, and getting them to compete for the playoffs and their defense was nothing compared to ours. I suppose you can not like the person or his beliefs or his weirdness. He was always our best QB option. And still is. We just need to put more guys around him and pray he doesn’t get hurt. But isn’t that what every team hopes for with their star QB? It was never ever the right move. It was a horrible franchise crippling move even before the achilles and now it is one of the worst moves an NFL franchise has ever made from many many different standpoints that I went over before the trade even happened. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSJF Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, dbatesman said: Me and my buddies Stump and Gooch watching the offense score 0.5 TDs per week, but telling ourselves "yeah, but trading for Rodgers means we had a chance to win" Because dbag JD had many chances to bring in a competent back up QB but didn’t … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Rodgers was the right move over bums like Carr… however Hackett is equally in the opposite direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bitonti Posted December 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Adoni Beast said: we signed Jimmy Garropolo or Derek Carr we'd be sitting at probably 7-7 and with Rodgers we'd probably be 9-5 What kind of logic is this? They actually traded for Rodgers and they are 5-9 Is this an alternate universe where Rodgers is 5 years younger than he is in this one? Face facts it was a terrible trade and a bad idea. Rodgers is a million years old and will never show mvp form again. Why is that so hard to understand? What more proof do fans need? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Agreed. Had to be made. In the end the compensation wasn't really a problem either, since no 1st will end up being a part of the trade(I'm sure a lot of the people saying we gave up too much are the same people who were saying "just give them the 15th pick and be done with it" at the time). If he never plays another snap for us, I'll still say it was the right move. Same if he gets injured early again next year. If he gets us to the playoffs even once though in these next 2 seasons, it's a win. Two 2nd rounders? No brainer. Especially considering, even with the Rodgers trade, we had accumulated 11 1st and 2nd round picks from 2020 to 2023. We could afford to take a swing and he was the perfect guy to swing on. Not just an elite QB but someone who could change the culture and bring us legitimacy. Also the perfect guy to develop your Zach replacement under. I'll pay two 2nds for that all day. As far as the other stuff, like letting him dictate personnel decisions, I'll hold off judgement on Hackett until after I see how Rodgers plays under him. Lazard is the only one that bothers me as far as players go. Cobb, Turner, these dudes suck but in reality they are one year deals on guys who were supposed to bring us depth and nothing more. I think harping on these things as "JD failures" is such a reach and annoys me to no end reading about...as if Randall Cobb on a 1 year peanut salary is what killed us this year. But yes, Lazard sucks and in reality we would have been better off signing someone else or just not signing anyone and drafting JSN. I get the strategy though if the goal was to entice Rodgers, since back then none of us though ANY star QB would want to play here, especially not one of the GOATs. Luckily Lazard will be gone before Garrett is due his raise, and in the meantime his $10M salary shouldn't prevent us from adding a legitimate #2 WR. It all looks bad now, but the potential positives far outweigh the negatives in regards to compensation and personnel decisions. A healthy Rodgers makes us a legit contender. Even this year, even with the sh*t OL and lack of weapons. Wins against New England, Vegas, and ATL completely changes the narrative right now, and this board is talking playoff race instead of who we should draft with the 7th overall pick. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 Stud left tackle in the draft. Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman signed as a free agent. Big time olinemen signed as a free agent. Aaron Rodgers healthy. Breece year 2 after the acl. Top 5 D in the league. See you in August to talk Super Bowl Jet fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Plen T said: Rodgers was the right move over bums like Carr… Derek Carr has flaws but at least he is a current nfl player not someone who should have retired two years ago Some Fans are in denial about how bad that trade was 100 million, 2 2nds the trade down which is basically a third Rd all for 4 plays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Stud left tackle in the draft. Tee Higgins or Michael Pittman signed as a free agent. Big time olinemen signed as a free agent. Aaron Rodgers healthy. Breece year 2 after the acl. Top 5 D in the league. See you in August to talk Super Bowl Jet fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Siemian will be the starter by game 2 next year if Rodgers doesn't retire or get hurt in TC like he did this year. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, bonkertons said: If he never plays another snap for us, I'll still say it was the right move. Wtf are you talking about? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, DoubleDown said: It's pretty simple. No problem with swinging for the fences by trading for Rodgers. Problem with the amount of draft capital given up (Jets had all the leverage), letting Rodgers dictate what coaches and players are brought in, and restructuring his contract to mortgage the mid to long term future of the team. In short, the move was fine in principle. The execution was terrible. Signing Rodgers as a FA might have been OK. But for the way we did it, the move is among the worst ever by a franchise. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAustrian Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, FootballLove said: Good post. On Aarons last appearance on the Pat Macfee show, he talked about the talent on the team and went through our entire defense, naming names, stats, etc. Never heard a QB talk in such detail about the other side of the ball. Was kinda nice to hear, and cements (at least in my sick mind) that Aaron really is a team guy. And like you, my impression of Aaron Rodgers had totally changed since coming here. Love the guy, quirks and all. He didnt talk about Remcens and Netters- ignorant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonkertons Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, bitonti said: Wtf are you talking about? You can't predict the future bud. Gotta make a call, and trading for Rodgers was the right call. How is that hard to understand? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I really don't know what we're gonna do without those 2nd round picks. Just imagine Derek Carr with those picks man. The floor is outer space 🚀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I forgot to save for retirenment for the last 40 years. I can fix it by buying a lottery ticket. Same principle dude. We spent the entire offseason before the lottery drawing thinking about all the good stuff we could do when the number JD picked gets drawn. Amazing we didn't even get 1 number right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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