Caleb Williams backup just tossed TD #6 tonight

[Jet_Engine1]

Discuss amongst yourselves. 

[jetspenguin]

Discuss amongst yourselves. 

Did he cry in the stands, in his mommy's arms after each one?

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[SickJetFan]

5 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Discuss amongst yourselves. 

saw that - is Caleb for real - or they got some really good coaches there?

[jetspenguin]

saw that - is Caleb for real - or they got some really good coaches there?

Booooom....Sanchez says hi

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[Beerfish]

Lincoln Riley the star maker.   Why I dare say he could make Zach Wison a...................

[SickJetFan]

1 minute ago, jetspenguin said:

Booooom....Sanchez says hi

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kid is actually undefeated in like 4 games - I think USC has their next qb

[GreenFish]

8 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

saw that - is Caleb for real - or they got some really good coaches there?

I wouldn't draft him. Bears should trade out and let someone else take that risk.

[Maxman]

16 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Discuss amongst yourselves. 

I am confused, I don't see the catch phrase in your post.

Sign this beast!

[SickJetFan]

1 minute ago, GreenFish said:

I wouldn't draft him. Bears should trade out and let someone else take that risk.

I think he is draft eligible but why would he leave

[Green Ghost]

6 minutes ago, jetspenguin said:

Booooom....Sanchez says hi

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Darnold says hold my beer.

[Green Ghost]

Is anyone else old enough to remember back before Conference realignment,  NIL and the Portal, when college football was fun?

[Warfish]

20 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

saw that - is Caleb for real - or they got some really good coaches there?

Are ANY USC QB’s “real” when it comes to the NFL? I have my doubts.

[SickJetFan]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Are ANY USC QB’s “real” when it comes to the NFL? I have my doubts.

I actually like Caleb, seen him make some really good throws but yeah I tho the same of Darnold

[Barry McCockinner]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Are ANY USC QB’s “real” when it comes to the NFL? I have my doubts.

Carson Palmer. But what do any of them have to do with Caleb? 

 

[Green Ghost]

17 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Are ANY USC QB’s “real” when it comes to the NFL? I have my doubts.

I think that kind of talk is silly, because it’s not as if the same CS has been there since pre-Sanchez. Staffs turn over, philosophies change, and every kid has a different skill set. You can’t lump different QBs over a 15-20 year period all together.
Last year guys were saying I was nuts because I kept touting Stroud to be the #1 pick and the Jets should move heaven and earth to get him rather than a retread veteran QB in FA or trade. They used the same “no Ohio St. QB can be trusted” thing you just used (along with many others) with USC.

I’m pretty certain the Texans are very happy Carolina left Stroud there for them, because… Ohio St. QB with a bad wonderlich (or whatever its called) score.

 

[RutgersJetFan]

Being a backup QB as an underclassman at USC for Lincoln Riley likely means you were a top 5 QB in the country in HS. They're losing Malachi Nelson to the transfer portal and it's not going to affect them at all.

[RutgersJetFan]

38 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Lincoln Riley the star maker.   Why I dare say he could make Zach Wison a...................

Four Heisman finalists in six years. Dude's ******* Yoda.

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

Being a backup QB as an underclassman at USC for Lincoln Riley likely means you were a top 5 QB in the country in HS. They're losing Malachi Nelson to the transfer portal and it's not going to affect them at all.

But… but… none of them will be good in the NFL because they went to the same school as Matt Leinhart when Pete Carroll was the HC!

[Warfish]

42 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

I think that kind of talk is silly, because it’s not as if the same CS has been there since pre-Sanchez. Staffs turn over, philosophies change, and every kid has a different skill set. You can’t lump different QBs over a 15-20 year period all together.
Last year guys were saying I was nuts because I kept touting Stroud to be the #1 pick and the Jets should move heaven and earth to get him rather than a retread veteran QB in FA or trade. They used the same “no Ohio St. QB can be trusted” thing you just used (along with many others) with USC.

I’m pretty certain the Texans are very happy Carolina left Stroud there for them, because… Ohio St. QB with a bad wonderlich (or whatever its called) score.

 

Of course it’s silly.

Im still not interested in a USC QB.

Moot point where we pick.

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Carson Palmer. But what do any of them have to do with Caleb? 

 

There's a certain type of person who ends up qb1 at usc (surfboard and cheerleader university) and as a group they are not prepared for the pain and suffering that is life in the NFL 

I know people say don't scout the helmet but that's bullsh*t. I'll take a Michigan lineman, a Penn state linebacker and a Miami tight end any day 

[RutgersJetFan]

55 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

But… but… none of them will be good in the NFL because they went to the same school as Matt Leinhart when Pete Carroll was the HC!

It’s always been hard to judge PAC 10 guys for obvious reasons (i.e. Herbert), but I’m intrigued to see how he does going forward. Riley’s air raid stuff against Big Ten defenses should be fun to watch. At the very least it’ll make scouting these guys easier. 

 

[varjet]

1 minute ago, bitonti said:

There's a certain type of person who ends up qb1 at usc (surfboard and cheerleader university) and as a group they are not prepared for the pain and suffering that is life in the NFL 

Qb1 at USC has peaked in life.   The NFL is only worse in terms of lifestyle and women.  Their QBs lose interest in the NFL. 

[varjet]

The Bears should take Drake Maye.  They need to try something different.  Caleb is too similar to Fields 

[RutgersJetFan]

20 minutes ago, bitonti said:

There's a certain type of person who ends up qb1 at usc (surfboard and cheerleader university) and as a group they are not prepared for the pain and suffering that is life in the NFL 

I know people say don't scout the helmet but that's bullsh*t. I'll take a Michigan lineman, a Penn state linebacker and a Miami tight end any day 

They better get their sh*t together quick if they’re going to be dealing with Michigan and Iowa every year. 

[The Crusher]

4 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

But… but… none of them will be good in the NFL because they went to the same school as Matt Leinhart when Pete Carroll was the HC!

True, unfortunate but true. 

[jetspenguin]

11 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

I think that kind of talk is silly, because it’s not as if the same CS has been there since pre-Sanchez. Staffs turn over, philosophies change, and every kid has a different skill set. You can’t lump different QBs over a 15-20 year period all together.
Last year guys were saying I was nuts because I kept touting Stroud to be the #1 pick and the Jets should move heaven and earth to get him rather than a retread veteran QB in FA or trade. They used the same “no Ohio St. QB can be trusted” thing you just used (along with many others) with USC.

I’m pretty certain the Texans are very happy Carolina left Stroud there for them, because… Ohio St. QB with a bad wonderlich (or whatever its called) score.

 

I think the logic around USC qb's are not much diffetent than the logic used around these parts that the Jets cant develop a starting rookie qb. Despite the regime change, despite the qb, no matter the offenseive style...for some reasson the results are more often than not the same and we "ruined" the young qb prospect.

i.e. USC

[Biggs]

6 hours ago, varjet said:

Qb1 at USC has peaked in life.   The NFL is only worse in terms of lifestyle and women.  Their QBs lose interest in the NFL. 

Joe Namath says hi.

[k-met57]

I think so much of playing QB is mental strength, and ability to remain even keel....i wouldn't touch him. he just seems like a kid who will have a hard time going to a bad team, standing in front of reporters and eating sh*t for the rest of the guys in the locker-room.

[Claymation]

8 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Discuss amongst yourselves. 

Huh, he didn’t play last night, Moss did.

[Claymation]

Does this forum actually watch the games before commenting?

[68JET11]

8 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

I think that kind of talk is silly, because it’s not as if the same CS has been there since pre-Sanchez. Staffs turn over, philosophies change, and every kid has a different skill set. You can’t lump different QBs over a 15-20 year period all together.
Last year guys were saying I was nuts because I kept touting Stroud to be the #1 pick and the Jets should move heaven and earth to get him rather than a retread veteran QB in FA or trade. They used the same “no Ohio St. QB can be trusted” thing you just used (along with many others) with USC.

I’m pretty certain the Texans are very happy Carolina left Stroud there for them, because… Ohio St. QB with a bad wonderlich (or whatever its called) score.

 

I know, because only one staff has ever coached at USC, and they have ruined EVERY QB that has ever suited up for that school... Hope I'm wrong about Caleb, but somehow I don't think so.

Oh by the way, Stroud has had a couple of good games, and you're anointing him as the second coming of Tom Brady... How did he do against our sh*tty team lol...

Maybe a player is what they are no matter where they go or don't go to school, but for now I'll leave USC QB's off my draft list. Someday that may change.

[The Gun Of Bavaria]

CALEB WILLIAMS IS A SYSTEM QB!!!!!

[Green Ghost]

2 hours ago, 68JET11 said:

I know, because only one staff has ever coached at USC, and they have ruined EVERY QB that has ever suited up for that school... Hope I'm wrong about Caleb, but somehow I don't think so.

Oh by the way, Stroud has had a couple of good games, and you're anointing him as the second coming of Tom Brady... How did he do against our sh*tty team lol...

Maybe a player is what they are no matter where they go or don't go to school, but for now I'll leave USC QB's off my draft list. Someday that may change.

I’m sure the USC QBs will be heartbroken when they read that you won’t be drafting them. 😂

[rangerous]

10 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

But… but… none of them will be good in the NFL because they went to the same school as Matt Leinhart when Pete Carroll was the HC!

Plenty of really bad usc QBs in the nfls past.  Palmer is maybe the only one in the past 50 years to be really decent.

[PepPep]

9 hours ago, bitonti said:

There's a certain type of person who ends up qb1 at usc (surfboard and cheerleader university) and as a group they are not prepared for the pain and suffering that is life in the NFL 

I know people say don't scout the helmet but that's bullsh*t. I'll take a Michigan lineman, a Penn state linebacker and a Miami tight end any day 

So you're the guy who passes on Mahomes and Kelce because you want to draft a QB from school 'X' and a TE from school 'Y'? Just saying. 

Look, you have to consider everything when you evaluate a prospect, including what school he went to, what system he played in, what competition he faced, what talent he had around him, who coached him, etc, etc. Its not an enviable job. And even when you make the right pick, your guy could get hurt in the first game of his career and never be the same player. 

But crossing any player off the list completely just because they went to a certain school, IMO, is silly.