Popular Post Ulrich Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Jets play well when it does not matter so I think the team is what its record says we are 7-10. Might have been better if Douglas does not give up the season after the 4th snap of the year. In my years following the Jets the only year I really felt our record did not tell the story was Rex's 8-8 year where they won two games basically on the last play by fluke and got hammered in many many other games. That team was well below a .500 team and people heaped credit on rex for how good he was which was absurd. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 To be fair, the Giants only ever took the lead in that game because of inexcusable personal fouls. the giants averaged 2.8 yards per play in that game and had -9 yards passing 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 It also works both ways - the raider game was a 50-50 game that felt like we choked away. The falcons game was another 50-50 game that could have gone either way. With the QBs we had available, 7-10 feels right. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: It also works both ways - the raider game was a 50-50 game that felt like we choked away. The falcons game was another 50-50 game that could have gone either way. With the QBs we had available, 7-10 feels right. Unless it's a blowout, you can find plays in every game that would change the outcome if they went the other way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, jetfan39 said: Unless it's a blowout, you can find plays in every game that would change the outcome if they went the other way. Agree - that’s why the record at the end is usually close to correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Yeah, you can’t just say the close wins should have been losses but the close losses couldn’t have been wins. Really, it’s hard to know what we have with this team because we didn’t get to see them with replacement level QB play. I’d argue the overall talent on this team is better than 7-10, but without seeing a competent QB take the field it’s hard to know. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Agree - that’s why the record at the end is usually close to correct. And why you see teams that were super lucky (last years Vikings) regress the following year and vice versa. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 like others have said, a play here or there could turn a win to a loss or a loss to a victory. im sure there are teams in the playoffs right now that have had the same thing this year. if Zach doesnt fumble at midfield we might have beat the Chiefs. we are not that far away. we will upgrade our QB and LT positions and that will go a long way to helping us. and we need to figure out why the OL keeps getting hurt. 12 different OL combinations is unwinnable. we should be able to get at least 10 wins next year and the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 I'm certain that they won 7 games this season. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 I mean, until the NFL starts recognizing suspect wins as a different statistic, I’m afraid we’re stuck with this antiquated model. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Ulrich said: Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. True enough but in the nfl only a few teams can be considered a lock on Sunday.and all teams have holes to fill somewhere. The jets just seemed to have more holes than most due to low performance from key players and loads of injuries. The low performance is the tough thing and points to a coaching staff that isn’t getting the job done. The player holes can easily be filled but it might be a rob Peter to pay Paul kind of proposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 what even is this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Ulrich said: Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. Newsflash games in th NFL are won on small margins most of the time! With a good offense this team is built to sh*t down opposing offenses like we say in Houston. The team was what it was , you can say it was a much better team as easily as it was a worse. Thw team is stacked with talent and adding a QB let along one like Rodgers take it to the playoffs and beyond!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 You don't get style points for a fancy loss. You don't lose points for an ugly win. The win/loss/tie column doesn't take context into consideration when determining who makes the playoffs or gets a worse draft pick. Swap the Eagles win with the Atlanta loss and we still end up with 7 wins and diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rex-n-effect Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Teams are supposed to capitalize on opportunities. You can scratch off wins from any team if you discount those plays. There was enough wrong with the Jets this season that you don't need to invent new ones to have something to complain about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I'm certain that they won 7 games this season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 With AR8 this was better than a 7 win season. It would have been nice to draft higher given the issues with the roster and ability to sign FAs, but picking 10 is not unreasonable for this Jets team and their defense. If they were strategic they would have picked higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 10 hours ago, slimjasi said: It also works both ways - the raider game was a 50-50 game that felt like we choked away. The falcons game was another 50-50 game that could have gone either way. With the QBs we had available, 7-10 feels right. The 1st NE should have been a win as well. With just average QB play from someone like a Minshew or Brisset and the Jets win at least 3-4 additional games and make the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 12 hours ago, Ulrich said: Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. -Fumbled snap gifted the game to Chiefs in the 4th quarter when Jets were driving nicely around the 50. -Lead against Raiders majority game until a gifted fumble and an int gave them the victory. -Gifted fumble to Falcons late in game on a good drive. We weren’t the only ones who received couple of “gifts”. Also, Rodgers wasn’t the only one that went down was he? We didn’t have bodies to fill the OL let alone playing competitive linemen. So yeah, we were 7-10 team and possibly 11-6 with AR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 ehh every team has a ridiculous win or two during the season. It evens out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 17 hours ago, slimjasi said: It also works both ways - the raider game was a 50-50 game that felt like we choked away. The falcons game was another 50-50 game that could have gone either way. With the QBs we had available, 7-10 feels right. That's PVO Saleh's goal for 2024 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 hours ago, freestater said: She is so cringe. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MR.GANGGREEN28 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/20/2024 at 12:26 PM, Ulrich said: Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. You are what your record is. There are games we could’ve/should’ve lost and games we could’ve/should’ve won. We were definitely a 7-10 team, because our record was 7-10. We also aren’t that far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gun Of Bavaria Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/20/2024 at 12:26 PM, Ulrich said: Plenty of media, fans and incompetents like Joe D are intimating the Jets aren’t that far away (after all they went a whopping 7-10 without Rodgers!). Perhaps. But this was more like a 6-11 or 5-12 team. And close to 4-13. Jets wins vs Giants and Eagles were semi miracles especially the former. 99% of the Giants win stats indicate. Hurts gifted the Jets that win with his horrific late game INT. Less of a miracle win - but the Jets odds to win before Hurts’ untimely INT were extremely low. Week 1 vs Bills could’ve gone either way. The Jets were a suspect 7-10. Which in and of itself is a bad record. Jets offense was undermanned and fragile entering the season: a questionable paper thin o-line and awful WR corps. Will be difficult plugging all those wholes in one offseason. Wait until next year when the Jets go 6-11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 The Jets are a good team from the neck down. Had the staff not gotten a mulligan and Joe D actually made an attempt to improve the roster before the trade deadline, even with Saleh and Hackett they might have won 9 games. The league basically sucks. That said the final four teams are much better than the NY Jets. They all have better QB's. With the exception of Detroit they all have super athletic QB's. Detroit has a great OL and two A backs. They all have top NFL HC and staffs. The Jets have a lot of A talent. They lack an athletic freak at QB and a HC with a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heymangold Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 you can play the what if game with every team's record. if the eagles beat the jets they're probably the 2 seed and playing a home playoff game. games are played for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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