Potential Pick #10 - Oregon St OT Taliese Fuaga vs Washington WR Rome Odunze

[Sarge4Tide]

Let’s say both Oregon St OT Taliese Fuaga and Washington WR Rome Odunze were both on the board when the Jets are on the clock at #10.  Who would you pick?

For the sake of this question, let’s assume those are the only 2 options and there is no chance to trade down.

[jamesr]

Let’s say both Oregon St OT Taliese Fuaga and Washington WR Rome Odunze were both on the board when the Jets are on the clock at #10.  Who would you pick?
For the sake of this question, let’s assume those are the only 2 options and there is no chance to trade down.

Odunze

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[Joejet]

Based on what has happened in free agency I would have to go with Odunze 

[Sarge4Tide]

I forgot to add the poll, sorry!

[section314]

Fuaga’s ship sailed when we signed Moses. Odunze.

[UntouchableCrew]

Odunze primarily because WR is just so much more of a need at this point.

But I wouldn’t freak out if we took Fuaga. Smith and Moses aren’t long term solutions and turning the OL from a constant problem to a value add unit would do wonders for the offense.

[Alka]

3 minutes ago, Sarge4Tide said:

Let’s say both Oregon St OT Taliese Fuaga and Washington WR Rome Odunze were both on the board when the Jets are on the clock at #10.  Who would you pick?

For the sake of this question, let’s assume those are the only 2 options and there is no chance to trade down.

This is a good question, but for me, the answer is simple.  Even the most hopeful people out there are hoping that Tyron will be healthy enough to start for 13 games this upcoming season.  Who will be playing in the 4 to 6 games that he doesn't start?

Tyron is also on a 1 year deal.  Fuaga is a left tackle, and he can come in and protect Rodgers blind side when Tyron isn't playing, and he can slide into the left tackle spot next year.  

The argument against this is: "Why not just put in Warren when Tyron isn't healthy enough to start?

I will answer that question with a question: "Do you know how many tackles the Jets had to go through last year due to injuries?"

I think they were on their 5th and 6th tackles by year end.  It was a nightmare.  We need a contingency plan if we get injuries, and there is no way that Tyron lasts all 17 games, plus a playoff run.

This is a painful subject, because we desperately need another wide receiver, and I am counting on JD to do everything he can, short of kidnapping Mike Williams to sign him on Monday.

[rangerous]

The jets seem to have got their oline starters penciled in so they may be free to take a player like Odenze with their ten pick or even trade back a bit.  I think their only issue is how they think of the qb after Rodgers.  Qb might be ruled out but if everything works out then the jets aren’t going to be picking so high in the next two drafts.

[playtowinthegame]

7 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Odunze primarily because WR is just so much more of a need at this point.

But I wouldn’t freak out if we took Fuaga. Smith and Moses aren’t long term solutions and turning the OL from a constant problem to a value add unit would do wonders for the offense.

 

I want to trade back and try to recoup a 2nd round pick. These guys are all crap shoots to varying degrees. Give me more picks. 

[GreenFish]

OT and WR are both premium positions.

I'd go Odunze without a doubt. Higher ranked prospect at a need position.

OT was an option at #10 before FA. But we shouldn't get an OT at #10 to be a security blanket. Odunze is not just a better prospect but he can contribute right away.

[slimjasi]

Odunze 

The only OT I’d consider taking over a WR at 10 is Joe Alt.

I think the top 4 WRs (MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, and BTJr) all have to be gone to take Fuaga there 

[TuscanyTile2]

We badly do need guys in the pipeline at OL (for injuries this year and FA losses next year) but we also badly need to improve our WR group for this year (and going forward).  

This is such a tough question to answer because not having a good OL can completely derail your season but WR is a skill position that feels more difficult to fill.  Honestly, I think Odunze feels like the bigger need right now and we're in "win now" mode with AR8 so I say we throw caution to the wind.  Rookie WRs can make an immediate impact too.

[derp]

Odunze is the better prospect and the one who plays a position that there’s a clear path to getting on the field. I don’t think this one is close.

[TuscanyTile2]

6 minutes ago, playtowinthegame said:

I want to trade back and try to recoup a 2nd round pick. These guys are all crap shoots to varying degrees. Give me more picks. 

I can be sold on this approach too.  This team still has many needs.  

[Bobby816]

As of right now for me Odunze by a wide margin.

But I can’t see us not doing anything in the WR room pre draft. So let’s say we add Mike Wiiliams this upcoming week. Then the need for WR is a bit less closing that margin 

[32EBoozer]

This draft is deep at WR & OL. That being said, we are deeper at OL than we are WR and we need to get GW help on the outside and if he’s out for any length of time with an injury, we are screwed royally. At least having Odunze gives Rodgers an outside threat if GW is out.

[DeerPark]

keep building the oline.  this is the start of developing a pipeline of oline players.  try to figure out a way to draft rice in the later rounds

[Sammybighead]

For the sake of this argument, I take fuaga. I fully understand we rebuilt the oline, but after the years of horrors we witnessed, I want a high quality backup this year so we don't get derailed again.

And by the way, fuaga would get to learn behind the best OT for a year while taking over for him next year as a high quality, low cost option to protect Rodgers yet again.

Now if you ask me my ideal draft outcome, it's not fuaga or odunze at 10.

[JiFtheOracle]

This is a pathetically mediocre OT class so it's Odunze by a country mile.

 

[jetspenguin]

Odunze

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It's not even a choice...we don't have a WR opposite of Wilson. At least we have a full line for now.

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[Rangers9]

Or a trade down to draft a second tier OL and a QB or Wr. Last year there were good wide receivers drafted later in the first round. 

[TuscanyTile2]

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[Larz]

A week early for this. Need to see what they do at WR next week 

[Jetty]

The Tyron Smith trade should’ve shown everyone that we are trading down. No way we stay at 10.

[Darnold's Forehead]

15 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

We badly do need guys in the pipeline at OL (for injuries this year and FA losses next year) but we also badly need to improve our WR group for this year (and going forward).  

This is such a tough question to answer because not having a good OL can completely derail your season but WR is a skill position that feels more difficult to fill.  Honestly, I think Odunze feels like the bigger need right now and we're in "win now" mode with AR8 so I say we throw caution to the wind.  Rookie WRs can make an immediate impact too.

The OL pipeline has to be built through mid round picks.  That’s what successful franchises do, we can’t be limited to only 1st rounders on the OL.

The way I see it is a WR @ 10 will immediately contribute and contribute all season long.  An OT @ 10 will sit on the bench and only play if injuries occur - which is likely, but can also be solved by drafting a mid round OT and relying on Carter.  Our OL depth needs to be tested and up for the task.  If we have depth guys that can’t play, they should not be on the team and should be replaced.

We took 2 of Baltimore’s starting OL and they were ok with it.  They have depth guys who will fill the void and guys they’ll draft, none of which were taken in the 1st round.

[BigRy56]

Between these two, you go Odunze

[83Kelly2Allen18]

18 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

This is a pathetically mediocre OT class so it's Odunze by a country mile.

 

Everything I'm reading is the opposite. That it's the best ot class in 20 years. This is supposedly a great oline class overall 

[PepPep]

9 minutes ago, Alka said:

This is a good question, but for me, the answer is simple.  Even the most hopeful people out there are hoping that Tyron will be healthy enough to start for 13 games this upcoming season.  Who will be playing in the 4 to 6 games that he doesn't start?

Tyron is also on a 1 year deal.  Fuaga is a left tackle, and he can come in and protect Rodgers blind side when Tyron isn't playing, and he can slide into the left tackle spot next year.  

The argument against this is: "Why not just put in Warren when Tyron isn't healthy enough to start?

I will answer that question with a question: "Do you know how many tackles the Jets had to go through last year due to injuries?"

I think they were on their 5th and 6th tackles by year end.  It was a nightmare.  We need a contingency plan if we get injuries, and there is no way that Tyron lasts all 17 games, plus a playoff run.

This is a painful subject, because we desperately need another wide receiver, and I am counting on JD to do everything he can, short of kidnapping Mike Williams to sign him on Monday.

To me, this is NOT a good question. Because these are not nec. the right guys. 

1. I am 99.9999% convinced JD will add a starting caliber WR before the draft. Everything is pointing to that. Shopping Lazard (to free more cap), bringing Mike Williams into the building, rumors swirling that the Jets were interested in Keenan Allen, that they have interest in Boyd, everything screams JD and co. are scouring opportunities to get a WR specifically so they don't have to be in a position where they are in desperate need of a guy like Odunze.

2. Fuaga is not a LT. Could he potentially be an NFL LT? Sure. But he did not play play LT in college and nothing about his measurables should suggest to the Jets they can just plug him in at LT if T.Smith goes down. Maybe you were thinking about Fashanu? In which case this would be a different poll and this is why I say these are not nec. the right guys to be discussing. 

3. Even if we are talking about T.Smith getting hurt and the shuffelling the O-line around. Lets say AVT goes to LT. Does Fuaga come in as a Guard? Is that really his best positional use? Maybe. I really can't answer that question. I'm no expert on what he COULD do in the NFL, but I'm pretty sure Fuaga played exclusively RT in college. 

4. Who the Jets select, assuming they don't trade down or trade up, will depend A LOT on who is available. At this point in FA, they have plugged almost all of their critical holes and JD will go into the draft with the flexibility to 'let the draft come to him' as they say. So to ask - will they take player A or player B is kind of silly. Well? Who else is on the board? 

To me, there are two top targets that most likely wont be there but COULD slide to 10 - Nabers and Fashanu. If one of them is there, I think JD has to take them. After that, you have to consider Bowers, he is just a freak talent that the Jets may regret passing on for years if he slides to 10. Assuming none of those are there, the next guys on my list are Fuaga, Mims, Fautanu, Odunze, Brian Thomas Jr. and JJ McCarthy. To me, they are all in the same bucket. Just depends on who is there and who the Jets really like and what position they would prefer to address. I like all of these guys for different reasons. I know many will say - you can't possibly consider Mims, Fautanu or McCarthy at 10. Yes, I can. These are guys who have true LT potential in the NFL and JJ McCarthy has all the tools to be a Franchise NFL QB (along with a winning pedigree) without the injury history of a guy like Penix.  And if he is there at 10, he will certainly be the last remaining 'top tier' QB on the board. If the Jets have any uncertainty about Rodgers or his health or commitment, I don't see why they wouldn't consider McCarthy at 10. 

[Barkus]

You take the playmaker, Odunze. This team is looking to win now. This team can't afford another 1st round pick to sit on the bench (Will Mcd). OL is still cheaper than WR in FA. High-end WR rarely to make it to FA also. You draft playmakers, sign vet FA depth.

[Alka]

16 minutes ago, Darnold's Forehead said:

The OL pipeline has to be built through mid round picks.  That’s what successful franchises do, we can’t be limited to only 1st rounders on the OL.

The way I see it is a WR @ 10 will immediately contribute and contribute all season long.  An OT @ 10 will sit on the bench and only play if injuries occur - which is likely, but can also be solved by drafting a mid round OT and relying on Carter.  Our OL depth needs to be tested and up for the task.  If we have depth guys that can’t play, they should not be on the team and should be replaced.

We took 2 of Baltimore’s starting OL and they were ok with it.  They have depth guys who will fill the void and guys they’ll draft, none of which were taken in the 1st round.

It's hard to argue with your assessment, but in terms of which is the most difficult position on the O line to replace, and that would be the blind side, at left tackle.

From what I have read, there are only 2 top tier left tackles in the draft, and one is Alt, and the other is Fashano.

After we are done paying Tryon his $20M this season, who will step in and protect the blind side?  

This is not a position that can be easily fixed, and certainly not in the mid rounds can you get one, unless you are lucky.

Next year, if we are picking at let's say #20, I would argue that we would have a better chance of picking up a wide receiver than picking up a quality left tackle.

There is a good chance that both Alt and Fashano will be gone by 10.  Assuming we get Mike Williams in free agency, I might be so inclined to get the #1 tight end in the draft if he is available, which would make our skill players on offense quite lethal.

In any case, the choice at #10 is a hard one.  I really believe that Mike Williams holds the key for us, and I expect JD to do everything he can to sign him.  He is 29 years old, and when healthy, he is easily a top tier #2 or #1 receiver.  If we get him, we can do a number of things at #10, including trading down a few spots, and reacquiring our 2nd round pick this year.

Edited March 17 by Alka
I confused Fashano with Fuaga.

[Rangers9]

Penix is a good prospect with a poor injury record. If he couldn't survive and stay healthy in NCAAF imagine the NFL. But Jets could maybe get him later in first round plus pick up a 2nd round pick? If McCarthy still available at 6 a lot of trade partners or Jets could select him. 

[bonkertons]

1 hour ago, Alka said:

This is a good question, but for me, the answer is simple.  Even the most hopeful people out there are hoping that Tyron will be healthy enough to start for 13 games this upcoming season.  Who will be playing in the 4 to 6 games that he doesn't start?

Tyron is also on a 1 year deal.  Fuaga is a left tackle, and he can come in and protect Rodgers blind side when Tyron isn't playing, and he can slide into the left tackle spot next year.  

The argument against this is: "Why not just put in Warren when Tyron isn't healthy enough to start?

I will answer that question with a question: "Do you know how many tackles the Jets had to go through last year due to injuries?"

I think they were on their 5th and 6th tackles by year end.  It was a nightmare.  We need a contingency plan if we get injuries, and there is no way that Tyron lasts all 17 games, plus a playoff run.

This is a painful subject, because we desperately need another wide receiver, and I am counting on JD to do everything he can, short of kidnapping Mike Williams to sign him on Monday.

Why do some people think the only way you can add depth is with top-10 picks?  I’ve seen this on Ryan 247’s draft video as well. There is no ******* way Douglas is going to take a guy 10th overall who might never see the field in a year where his job is on the line. 
 

Saying “we should take a weapon at 10” doesn’t mean “I don’t want depth on the OL”. Both of those things should be possible. 
 

Also Fuaga isn’t a LT. He’s a RT. Potentially an OG. You talking about Fashanu or even Fautanu?

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[SomebodytoAnybody47]

8 minutes ago, Alka said:

It's hard to argue with your assessment, but in terms of which is the most difficult position on the O line to replace, and that would be the blind side, at left tackle.

From what I have read, there are only 2 top tier left tackles in the draft, and one is Alt, and the other is Fashano.

After we are done paying Tryon his $20M this season, who will step in and protect the blind side?  

This is not a position that can be easily fixed, and certainly not in the mid rounds can you get one, unless you are lucky.

Next year, if we are picking at let's say #20, I would argue that we would have a better chance of picking up a wide receiver than picking up a quality left tackle.

There is a good chance that both Alt and Fashano will be gone by 10.  Assuming we get Mike Williams in free agency, I might be so inclined to get the #1 tight end in the draft if he is available, which would make our skill players on offense quite lethal.

In any case, the choice at #10 is a hard one.  I really believe that Mike Williams holds the key for us, and I expect JD to do everything he can to sign him.  He is 29 years old, and when healthy, he is easily a top tier #2 or #1 receiver.  If we get him, we can do a number of things at #10, including trading down a few spots, and reacquiring our 2nd round pick this year.

Signing any WR right now should have zero impact on who they draft. An injury prone Mike Williams isn’t stopping me from drafting a guy like Nabers or Odunze. 

[JetsFlyer]

are the jets disbanding the team after 2024_ the FA OTs are 1 year deals people and old