Troy Vincent: NFL aiming to eliminate “swivel hip-drop” tackles despite NFLPA objections

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

LOL 😂 

“Brotherly shove” still perfectly legal

But more legislation incoming against defending and tackling:

”a specific type do a (sic) tackle where a player unweights himself”

What does this even mean

 

[UntouchableCrew]

It's just a tackle, IMO. 

You can't legislate tackling out of football.

[The Crusher]

I feel like hesitation during the live action is inherently as dangerous as well. 

[Barry McCockinner]

more stupid rules, yay

[Beerfish]

It is unfortunate guys get injured with the hip drop but with the size and speed of players these days it will be literally impossible for some players to tackle other players.  Also with no head shots and no hip drop and no horse collars, be ready to way more leg injures as guys are just diving into legs and knees.

[NYJ37/12]

Flag football by 2030

[HessStation]

It means the NFL has monopolized people’s minds to a point that they can completely change the game with so many dumb penalties, outcomes can be controlled and they can make even more money off mindless peasants hooked on this dumb sh*t like we’re all on drugs, bc humanity is the virus of this planet. 🫶

[Pac]

9 minutes ago, HessStation said:

It means the NFL has monopolized people’s minds to a point that they can completely change the game with so many dumb penalties, outcomes can be controlled and they can make even more money off mindless peasants hooked on this dumb sh*t like we’re all on drugs, bc humanity is the virus of this planet. 🫶

[Jet_Engine1]

15 minutes ago, HessStation said:

It means the NFL has monopolized people’s minds to a point that they can completely change the game with so many dumb penalties, outcomes can be controlled and they can make even more money off mindless peasants hooked on this dumb sh*t like we’re all on drugs, bc humanity is the virus of this planet. 🫶

[TBJ]

I put my hand up on your hip
When I dip, you dip, we dip
You put your hand up on my hip
When you dip, I dip, we dip
I put my hand up on your hip
When I dip, you dip, we dip
You put yours, and I put mine
And we can dip down low, and roll and grind

[Integrity28]

NFL football is the most overrated sport there is in terms of the time invested vs. actual action, ethical competition, and stupid uniforms.

[Integrity28]

29 minutes ago, HessStation said:

It means the NFL has monopolized people’s minds to a point that they can completely change the game with so many dumb penalties, outcomes can be controlled and they can make even more money off mindless peasants hooked on this dumb sh*t like we’re all on drugs, bc humanity is the virus of this planet. 🫶

[New York Mick]

32 minutes ago, HessStation said:

It means the NFL has monopolized people’s minds to a point that they can completely change the game with so many dumb penalties, outcomes can be controlled and they can make even more money off mindless peasants hooked on this dumb sh*t like we’re all on drugs, bc humanity is the virus of this planet. 🫶

Remind me not to have you write any of my speaks. 

[bitonti]

For those who haven't seen it this is the hip drop and it's often a season ender 

 

[SickJetFan]

7 minutes ago, bitonti said:

For those who haven't seen it this is the hip drop and it's often a season ender 

 

i didnt see anything wrong with that tackle - he wrapped him up and brought him down.

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, New York Mick said:

Remind me not to have you write any of my speaks. 

[chirorob]

2 hours ago, Beerfish said:

It is unfortunate guys get injured with the hip drop but with the size and speed of players these days it will be literally impossible for some players to tackle other players.  Also with no head shots and no hip drop and no horse collars, be ready to way more leg injures as guys are just diving into legs and knees.

If Derek Henry is running down field, and a safety/ corner comes up along side of him, how the hell is that 190-200 pound defender supposed to bring that rampaging rhino down?

[Cyberjet]

2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It's just a tackle, IMO. 

You can't legislate tackling out of football.

If you understand that their intention is to take the physicality out of football it’s easy to understand. In 10 years the NFL will be unrecognizable and be closer to tag football than tackle football. All that matters to the power brokers is not the type of football but rather $$$ that they generate. If people keep buy paying for the anemic product they put on the field they could care less. The NFL is being Taylor Swifted

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, Cyberjet said:

If you understand that their intention is to take the physicality out of football it’s easy to understand. In 10 years the NFL will be unrecognizable and be closer to tag football than tackle football. All that matters to the power brokers is not the type of football but rather $$$ that they generate. If people keep buy paying for the anemic product they put on the field they could care less. The NFL is being Taylor Swifted

Wouldn’t say I don’t understand it as much as I think it sucks.

[Cyberjet]

3 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

Wouldn’t say I don’t understand it as much as I think it sucks.

It does suck and that’s their intention. It’s all about expanding the product. If they can generate a net million more fans by creating a less violent product they will do it in a heartbeat as opposed to maintaining a “purist” product 

[bitonti]

33 minutes ago, SickJetFan said:

i didnt see anything wrong with that tackle - he wrapped him up and brought him down.

It's basically a horse collar from the waist 

The wrong thing about it is the high injury rate. 

Guys snapping their acls and tibia like breadsticks 

Mark Andrews missed like 4 months after this play. It reduces points which is bad for the game 

Unlike the tush push which scores points and no one gets hurt 

[Cyberjet]

My prediction is that in the relatively near future the QB will be the first player to wear flags and avoid any tackling of the QB by removing a flag from the QB

[SickJetFan]

4 minutes ago, bitonti said:

It's basically a horse collar from the waist 

The wrong thing about it is the high injury rate. 

Guys snapping their acls and tibia like breadsticks 

Mark Andrews missed like 4 months after this play. It reduces points which is bad for the game 

Unlike the tush push which scores points and no one gets hurt 

they are taught from pee wee league to wrap up and not arm tackle.

and whose to say he would not have gotten injured with another tackle type - he just may have.

 

[Sperm Edwards]

3 hours ago, Beerfish said:

It is unfortunate guys get injured with the hip drop but with the size and speed of players these days it will be literally impossible for some players to tackle other players.  Also with no head shots and no hip drop and no horse collars, be ready to way more leg injures as guys are just diving into legs and knees.

The law of unintended consequences

[AFJF]

3 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It's just a tackle, IMO. 

You can't legislate tackling out of football.

Time will tell.  It's certainly the goal at this point.

[AFJF]

12 minutes ago, bitonti said:

It's basically a horse collar from the waist 

The wrong thing about it is the high injury rate. 

Guys snapping their acls and tibia like breadsticks 

Mark Andrews missed like 4 months after this play. It reduces points which is bad for the game 

Unlike the tush push which scores points and no one gets hurt 

And once they get rid of tackling, points will skyrocket and the league will be awesome.

[bitonti]

2 hours ago, chirorob said:

If Derek Henry is running down field, and a safety/ corner comes up along side of him, how the hell is that 190-200 pound defender supposed to bring that rampaging rhino down?

They don't. A touchdown and people cheer 

That's a better outcome than Derrick Henry out 4, 6 or 9 months 

Life in the league is already brutal enough with 17 games and Achilles snapping like slim Jim's 

 

[UntouchableCrew]

1 hour ago, Cyberjet said:

It does suck and that’s their intention. It’s all about expanding the product. If they can generate a net million more fans by creating a less violent product they will do it in a heartbeat as opposed to maintaining a “purist” product 

See, this is where you’re wrong. It’s not about expanding the product. It’s about reducing liability.

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, AFJF said:

And once they get rid of tackling, points will skyrocket and the league will be awesome.

I'd rather see easy points than easy injuries 

These players are not disposable, a few starters get hurt the product becomes unwatchable 

Source being a Jets fan 

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

more stupid rules, yay

Wonder what the NFLPA will have to give up for this, too.  Schedule will probably go to 20 games and they’ll add Tuesday night games.  

[Jetsfan80]

4 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

It's just a tackle, IMO. 

You can't legislate tackling out of football.

NFL:  “Hold my beer”

[Barry McCockinner]

8 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Wonder what the NFLPA will have to give up for this, too.  Schedule will probably go to 20 games and they’ll add Tuesday night games.  

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[NYJCAP2]

1 hour ago, bitonti said:

It's basically a horse collar from the waist 

The wrong thing about it is the high injury rate. 

Guys snapping their acls and tibia like breadsticks 

Mark Andrews missed like 4 months after this play. It reduces points which is bad for the game 

Unlike the tush push which scores points and no one gets hurt 

This is the way I see it, it only became popular by way of a variant of the horse collar tackle. Both with the defender chasing from behind.

You didn’t see this tackle 10-15 years ago.

[Jetsfan80]

9 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Only available with pornhub premium subscription 

All part of the NFL’s new “Football n Fap” promo.  

 

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, NYJCAP2 said:

This is the way I see it, it only became popular by way of a variant of the horse collar tackle. Both with the defender chasing from behind.

You didn’t see this tackle 10-15 years ago.

These men are professionals they know what they are doing 

It's just too dangerous and honestly who gives a rats ass about the ease of tackling for the linebacker? Or some db? They can figure it out

The ball carriers are the only reason anyone watches and that statement includes the Jets 

We don't want to see Garrett or breece hip dropped either