Jets’ Needs

[Sonny Werblin]

OT - starting level quality who could challenge Moses. With the age of Smith and Moses, this is a must have.

Slot WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Gibson)

# 3 WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Brownlee)

#3 S - maybe Davis will be re-signed?

#2 RB - Zeke? Anyone else out there? Draft maybe? I like Shipley.

IOL depth - who are the (good) backups at G and C? 

Did i miss anything?

[T0mShane]

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

[LionelRichie]

Any list that doesn’t include new turf if incomplete.  

[Larz]

I know defense doesn’t matter and they have too much defense but I would like to see Clemons gone because someone beats him out. He’s bad at footballing 
 

Mosleys young replacement that he gets to groom is a guy I would like to see get in here  

cant completely rely on Clark, S is a need 

I don’t trust Gipson and with the new rules KOR is a need to me 

Lazard can play the big slot but he needs to get his head together and TE is a big need , Bowers fixes both. 
 

The oline question is really interesting. If all goes well picking oline could wind up a bit of a waste, but considering this teams history with oline and this years class they almost have to take one. 

[32EBoozer]

6 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

Any list that doesn’t include a new stadium is incomplete.  

Fixed 

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

I really wish Simmons would sign here. I doubt it but would be such a perfect fit. 

But yeah go yolo, draft Bowers or one of the WRs. 

Draft another OL later on for depth. Along with another FA veteran out there. 

Or trade for Ayiuk. F THEM PICKS!!

[FidelioJet]

You guys all know the biggest need.  Just don't want to admit it...

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

You guys all know the biggest need.  Just don't want to admit it...

QB3 for sure.

[FidelioJet]

35 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

QB3 for sure.

In all likelihood QB 3 will be playing more than a few games this year....

Rodgers - well, I think we all know.

Taylor - just had his 4th concussion in 5 years.  And he still hasn't learned how to avoid hits. He's one shot away from calling it a career.

Zach shouldn't be anywhere near this team - but the Jets should take QB3 very seriously. 

[southparkcpa]

42 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said:

OT - starting level quality who could challenge Moses. With the age of Smith and Moses, this is a must have.

Slot WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Gibson)

# 3 WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Brownlee)

#3 S - maybe Davis will be re-signed?

#2 RB - Zeke? Anyone else out there? Draft maybe? I like Shipley.

IOL depth - who are the (good) backups at G and C? 

Did i miss anything?

Owner coach and GM. 

[slimjasi]

39 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

That’s what I honestly think will happen. The pick will either be Bowers or a WR who drops or a trade up for another WR. 
 

As for Donovan Smith, I would much prefer to fill the remaining 2 or 3 OL roster spots in this deep OL draft 

[Jets723]

42 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

I don’t see them Trading up I think a trade back would be more likely.  But yeah Bowers at 10 is a strong possibility or an OL

[slats]

22 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

You guys all know the biggest need.  Just don't want to admit it...

So how’s it working out for you so far, emulating the posters on the board who’ve annoyed you the most over the last couple years? 

[BigRy56]

There’s not much for 2024. It’s still OT/WR for me since Smith and Williams are on 1 year deals and are injury risks. Safety as well and of course… the QB of the future for 2026 and beyond.

The team still has money to blow and the #10 pick in the draft.

I imagine that pick will address the future of OT/WR (I’ll count Bowers as a WR solution). So either the OL or receiving group will be set and then we’ll see what they do with the other. Safety is coming in free agency. QB1 for 2026 and beyond won’t be a thought this year.

This is as good of a Jets roster on paper as I’ve seen

[MR.GANGGREEN28]

3 hours ago, Jets723 said:

I don’t see them Trading up I think a trade back would be more likely.  But yeah Bowers at 10 is a strong possibility or an OL

Yeah the team is in a weird place. I wouldn’t say they’re in full Hail Mary mode because we have a foundation built largely on youth which is sustainable for the future if you’re smart. On the other hand, the 2 most important positions on the team QB/OT are depending on guys who are at the tail end of their career. Also have a HC/GM who are hoping to keep their jobs after this year. 

[FidelioJet]

14 minutes ago, slats said:

So how’s it working out for you so far, emulating the posters on the board who’ve annoyed you the most over the last couple years? 

I'm enjoying myself so far.

[slats]

13 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

I'm enjoying myself so far.

Cool, that makes one of you. 

[jetspenguin]

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

I agree with this in principle..I just hate the idea of drafting an undersized TE at 10.

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[jetspenguin]

In all likelihood QB 3 will be playing more than a few games this year....
Rodgers - well, I think we all know.
Taylor - just had his 4th concussion in 5 years.  And he still hasn't learned how to avoid hits. He's one shot away from calling it a career.
Zach shouldn't be anywhere near this team - but the Jets should take QB3 very seriously. 

The 2 guys we have you swear are both going down will be enough to cover the 20 games with the improved play of the line. If we are down to QB3 (like any other team in the league), we are already done.

Correction*

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[Barry McCockinner]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

go get MHJ.

[Barry McCockinner]

12 minutes ago, slats said:

Cool, that makes one of you. 

I consider fido a barometer of sorts.

[Beerfish]

2 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

OT - starting level quality who could challenge Moses. With the age of Smith and Moses, this is a must have.

Slot WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Gibson)

# 3 WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Brownlee)

#3 S - maybe Davis will be re-signed?

#2 RB - Zeke? Anyone else out there? Draft maybe? I like Shipley.

IOL depth - who are the (good) backups at G and C? 

Did i miss anything?

Slot agreed

#3 is allan lazard, end of story

#3 S?   We need a 1 or 2 safety, Adams is not some pro bowler and clark is coming off an injury and is not that good to begin with.

Yes we need another RB. i think they will draft one.

We need to draft a true guard

 

[bicketybam]

1 hour ago, FidelioJet said:

In all likelihood QB 3 will be playing more than a few games this year....

Rodgers - well, I think we all know.

Taylor - just had his 4th concussion in 5 years.  And he still hasn't learned how to avoid hits. He's one shot away from calling it a career.

Zach shouldn't be anywhere near this team - but the Jets should take QB3 very seriously. 

They should take it seriously and that's why they can't have a guy as bad as Wilson as QB3. Does he still have any college eligibility left? 

[Adoni Beast]

3 hours ago, T0mShane said:

IMO, if they are going Full Hail Mary mode in 24, they should draft Bowers or trade up for Odunze and be done with it. They’re swinging for the fences now and the lineman probably isn’t giving you an instant return, especially if they have any faith in Carter Warren. Also wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Donovan Smith on the cheap in the next few weeks. Go YOLO

I want to like Bowers and I do…but there’s so much buyer beware with that guy and our awful coaching staff. Bowers seems like a dude that Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, and Sean McVay would make jazz with but can I trust Hackett 2.0 to do anything other than design 3 yard flats, catch and get clobbered by 3 defenders repeatedly? 

[T0mShane]

11 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

I want to like Bowers and I do…but there’s so much buyer beware with that guy and our awful coaching staff. Bowers seems like a dude that Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, and Sean McVay would make jazz with but can I trust Hackett 2.0 to do anything other than design 3 yard flats, catch and get clobbered by 3 defenders repeatedly? 

If the project is to get the team into the Super Bowl next February, they’ll prioritize the most ready-out-of-the-box players they can in the draft at positions that’ll either score TDs or turn the ball over on defense. IMO, there are three guys who fit that bill in that 10 range—Marvin Harrison, Odunze, and Bowers. I’m not high on Bowers in the long term, but I think he’ll be ready to contribute this year in an offense that has viable outside receivers. Agreed that Hackett could very well waste him, but I thought he did a good job getting the ball to a lesser light in Conklin, so maybe? 

 

 

[Bungaman]

I think the biggest need is competent coaching and execution on the offensive side of the ball.

The defense is good enough. Barring insane injuries, the offense should be good enough in terms of talent, although I am assuming since the draft and training camps cuts and additions aren't done yet, that they will be adding to that side of the team.

I have been generally a Saleh supporter - or at least, not a detractor. Players seem to like him and want to play for him, and generally play hard even when the season is over early. But at this point, while the defense is working, and has over the last two seasons, the offense has shown absolutely nothing.

As the HC, it's Saleh's responsibility that the coordinators under his command do something with whatever they have, no matter the circumstances - injuries, weather, etc. If Hackett can't manage that, like his dad couldn't, than ax him and promote Middleton, or someone else, but don't stick with incompetence. I'm not even against doing this in spring training or early in the season if we see the same idiocy in terms of play calling and game planning. 

[FidelioJet]

1 hour ago, bicketybam said:

They should take it seriously and that's why they can't have a guy as bad as Wilson as QB3. Does he still have any college eligibility left? 

Yes.  Wilson shouldn't have been on the roster last year.  The fact that he still is continues to tell me JD is still lost.

[slimjasi]

27 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

If the project is to get the team into the Super Bowl next February, they’ll prioritize the most ready-out-of-the-box players they can in the draft at positions that’ll either score TDs or turn the ball over on defense. IMO, there are three guys who fit that bill in that 10 range—Marvin Harrison, Odunze, and Bowers. I’m not high on Bowers in the long term, but I think he’ll be ready to contribute this year in an offense that has viable outside receivers. Agreed that Hackett could very well waste him, but I thought he did a good job getting the ball to a lesser light in Conklin, so maybe? 

 

 

Don’t forget Nabers, but I agree 

[T0mShane]

Just now, slimjasi said:

Don’t forget Nabers, but I agree 

Nabers and Garrett Wilson would be disgusting. No CB2 would be safe.

[bicketybam]

3 hours ago, FidelioJet said:

I'm enjoying myself so far.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

[rangerous]

6 hours ago, LionelRichie said:

Any list that doesn’t include new turf if incomplete.  

Interesting that major league soccer can get a stadium next to citi.  That’s where the jets should play if not on the west side.

[Dcat]

4 hours ago, jetspenguin said:

I agree with this in principle..I just hate the idea of drafting an undersized TE at 10.

what really makes it intolerable is that we don't pick again until rd 3.  How about ....no?

[rangerous]

6 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

OT - starting level quality who could challenge Moses. With the age of Smith and Moses, this is a must have.

Slot WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Gibson)

# 3 WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Brownlee)

#3 S - maybe Davis will be re-signed?

#2 RB - Zeke? Anyone else out there? Draft maybe? I like Shipley.

IOL depth - who are the (good) backups at G and C? 

Did i miss anything?

I think the points are well taken but the issue I see is saleh still has to get everyone on the same page.  I’m not too worried about wr3 because I think Lazard will bounce back.  GWilson, Williams and Lazard will give the defenses something to worry about.  Throw in breece , Conklin and Ruckert and they should have a very decent passing attack.  On top of this breece should be able to be sprung free with better oline play.

[Jethead]

5 hours ago, Bungaman said:

I think the biggest need is competent coaching and execution on the offensive side of the ball.

The defense is good enough. Barring insane injuries, the offense should be good enough in terms of talent, although I am assuming since the draft and training camps cuts and additions aren't done yet, that they will be adding to that side of the team.

I have been generally a Saleh supporter - or at least, not a detractor. Players seem to like him and want to play for him, and generally play hard even when the season is over early. But at this point, while the defense is working, and has over the last two seasons, the offense has shown absolutely nothing.

As the HC, it's Saleh's responsibility that the coordinators under his command do something with whatever they have, no matter the circumstances - injuries, weather, etc. If Hackett can't manage that, like his dad couldn't, than ax him and promote Middleton, or someone else, but don't stick with incompetence. I'm not even against doing this in spring training or early in the season if we see the same idiocy in terms of play calling and game planning. 

Good take.

Ride or die with AR8.

[C Mart]

10 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said:

OT - starting level quality who could challenge Moses. With the age of Smith and Moses, this is a must have.

Slot WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Gibson)

# 3 WR - we don’t have one (don’t say Brownlee)

#3 S - maybe Davis will be re-signed?

#2 RB - Zeke? Anyone else out there? Draft maybe? I like Shipley.

IOL depth - who are the (good) backups at G and C? 

Did i miss anything?

Depth at outside CB.  Other than Echols who else is backing up Reed & Sauce?