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With his ridiculous pro day numbers and rumors of the Giants leaning towards taking Penix at #6, there could be 5 QBs in first 6 picks. Leaving a very good chance of Jets getting Odunze/Bowers or trade down for OT. 

Personally hope we take the pick and take the playmaker, rather than the OT trade down. Thoughts?

New draft consensus:

Bears - Caleb Williams 

Commandeds - Jayden Daniels 

Pats - Drake Maye

Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr

Vikings (trade up) - JJ McCarthy 

Giants - Michael Penix Jr

Titans - Joe Alt

Falcons - Malik Nabers 

Bears - Jared Verse 

Jets - Rome Odunze / Brock Bowers 

 

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5 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I think the raiders or broncos are going to trade up into the top 9 to get a qb, which will push a wr to 10.  

Yeah, I could see one of those teams, trading with the Chargers, instead of the Vikings. I don’t think there is a QB to get beyond 6, other than Bo Nix, who likely is more of a late 1st.
 

The Giants won’t be trading out. They will pick either the QB or WR. They need both. 

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1 minute ago, Jdeet said:

Yeah, I could see one of those teams, trading with the Chargers, instead of the Vikings. I don’t think there is a QB to get beyond 6, other than Bo Nix, who likely is more of a late 1st.
 

The Giants won’t be trading out. They will pick either the QB or WR. They need both. 

I could see atlanta or chicago trading out.  I could also see the jets trading back if a stud wr isn’t there.  But i do think someone is trading up for either penix or nix. 

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I think best realistic top six is for the Jets:

-Williams (Bears)

-Daniels (Commanders)

-Maye (Vikings trade up)

-Harrison (Cardinals)

-Alt (Chargers get boxed to staying and picking because Harbaugh doesn't want to trade McCarthy in the division but they want OL)

-McCarthy (Giants)

 

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1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

I could see atlanta or chicago trading out.  I could also see the jets trading back if a stud wr isn’t there.  But i do think someone is trading up for either penix or nix. 

Tennessee, too. They're down a third and Callahan may have his eye on a specific OL who isn't Alt.

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1 minute ago, Augustiniak said:

I could see atlanta or chicago trading out.  I could also see the jets trading back if a stud wr isn’t there.  But i do think someone is trading up for either penix or nix. 

Agreed. If Nabers/Odunze are gone and Penix is still there, that is a possibility we trade back. But seems like things are moving towards the big 5 QBs going top 6. I don’t think Nix is worth the trade into the top 10, but maybe other teams do. 

We will see. 

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4 minutes ago, derp said:

I think best realistic top six is for the Jets:

-Williams (Bears)

-Daniels (Commanders)

-Maye (Vikings trade up)

-Harrison (Cardinals)

-Alt (Chargers get boxed to staying and picking because Harbaugh doesn't want to trade McCarthy in the division but they want OL)

-McCarthy (Giants)

 

Possibly, but the Chargers have Slater at LT and need a WR. They can trade down and still get the WR or stay at their pick and get Nabers. Their pick is going to have a lot of value. 

The Pats trading out would be fine with me. Likely they would be trading with a team that wants a QB. 

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27 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

With his ridiculous pro day numbers and rumors of the Giants leaning towards taking Penix at #6, there could be 5 QBs in first 6 picks. Leaving a very good chance of Jets getting Odunze/Bowers or trade down for OT. 

Personally hope we take the pick and take the playmaker, rather than the OT trade down. Thoughts?

New draft consensus:

Bears - Caleb Williams 

Commandeds - Jayden Daniels 

Pats - Drake Maye

Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr

Vikings (trade up) - JJ McCarthy 

Giants - Michael Penix Jr

Titans - Joe Alt

Falcons - Malik Nabers 

Bears - Jared Verse 

Jets - Rome Odunze / Brock Bowers 

If Penix really makes it into the top 10 then who drops out?  Fashanu?

There has already been a ton of speculation that Odunze and/or Bowers will be available to us.  

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6 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

Possibly, but the Chargers have Slater at LT and need a WR. They can trade down and still get the WR or stay at their pick and get Nabers. Their pick is going to have a lot of value. 

The Pats trading out would be fine with me. Likely they would be trading with a team that wants a QB. 

Slater played RT in college for two years before switching over. He can easily switch back if Alt is a “generational” LT.

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16 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

Possibly, but the Chargers have Slater at LT and need a WR. They can trade down and still get the WR or stay at their pick and get Nabers. Their pick is going to have a lot of value. 

The Pats trading out would be fine with me. Likely they would be trading with a team that wants a QB. 

Who do the Chargers trade with and are you confident they believe they need a WR?

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42 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I think the raiders or broncos are going to trade up into the top 9 to get a qb, which will push a wr to 10.  

Jmo I think Raiders trade back more likely . They want a Cb and a Rt more.  You finish adding all the pieces you need before you trade up for the Qb.     I think they are running back with A OConnell at Qb .  The kid been in the Raiders facility with like 35 players working out every day for the last two months. Raiders defense line wants to be the best in the NFL next season. 

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16 minutes ago, derp said:

Who do the Chargers trade with and are you confident they believe they need a WR?

Chargers lost both of their starting WRs and I would think they would want weapons for Herbert. But I think the rumors are the Vikings are the team that wants to trade up for McCarthy or Maye. The Chargers seem to be capable of moving back and still get Thomas Jr or another WR with their pick. 

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1 hour ago, Jdeet said:

With his ridiculous pro day numbers and rumors of the Giants leaning towards taking Penix at #6, there could be 5 QBs in first 6 picks. Leaving a very good chance of Jets getting Odunze/Bowers or trade down for OT. 

Personally hope we take the pick and take the playmaker, rather than the OT trade down. Thoughts?

New draft consensus:

Bears - Caleb Williams 

Commandeds - Jayden Daniels 

Pats - Drake Maye

Cardinals - Marvin Harrison Jr

Vikings (trade up) - JJ McCarthy 

Giants - Michael Penix Jr

Titans - Joe Alt

Falcons - Malik Nabers 

Bears - Jared Verse 

Jets - Rome Odunze / Brock Bowers 

 

Not that it changes how the top picks fall but I think Vikings are going to pick #4.

Broncos and Raiders won't trade with the division rival Raiders, which would mean they'd have to get 1 spot ahead of them, meaning Vikings would also need to get up to #4.

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1 minute ago, Jdeet said:

Chargers lost both of their starting WRs and I would think they would want weapons for Herbert. But I think the rumors are the Vikings are the team that wants to trade up for McCarthy or Maye. The Chargers seem to be capable of moving back and still get Thomas Jr or another WR with their pick. 

I understand what has led folks to believe that the Chargers will prioritize WR, I’m just pushing back on it. Harbaugh had always built around in the trenches first and he’s been openly talking about it during the process. They certainly could go WR but I think it’s penciled in too much given what we know about the folks who run the team.

Which brings me to the next point, I think they want to trade down (and get a RT, though Slater will be up for a deal soon) but don’t know who they trade down with in the scenario I outlined. Presumably it’s for a team who wants McCarthy, and yea Minnesota is likely Maye or McCarthy, but Minnesota has already traded up for Maye in that scenario.

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6 minutes ago, Larz said:

It’s funny I saw 6 Oline in the first 15 yesterday lol

its silly season 

remember Levis going #2 ?

Rumor has it that Will Levis is still falling and we'll have a chance at him in the 3rd round this year.

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Arjun Menon of PFF published a market-derived mocks based on a bunch of different betting odds, which is as close as we’ll get to any indicator of a “consensus” at this point.
 Caleb>Bears;

Daniels>Commies;

Maye>Pats;

McCarthy>Vikes;

MHJ>Chargers;

Nabers>Giants;

Alt>Titans;

Turner>Falcons 

Cards>Oduze

Jets>Fuaga, but noted Bowers had equal odds. 

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32 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Arjun Menon of PFF published a market-derived mocks based on a bunch of different betting odds, which is as close as we’ll get to any indicator of a “consensus” at this point.
 Caleb>Bears;

Daniels>Commies;

Maye>Pats;

McCarthy>Vikes;

MHJ>Chargers;

Nabers>Giants;

Alt>Titans;

Turner>Falcons 

Cards>Oduze

Jets>Fuaga, but noted Bowers had equal odds. 

I mean fuaga might be a nice player but unless he is pro bowler year 2 to the end of his career we showed once again how to go about fing yourself with meaningless wins at the end of the year.

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4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

I mean fuaga might be a nice player but unless he is pro bowler year 2 to the end of his career we showed once again how to go about fing yourself with meaningless wins at the end of the year.

maybe they would trade AVT and use fuaga as RG

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14 hours ago, Jdeet said:

New draft consensus:

 

Giants - Michael Penix Jr

Titans - Joe Alt

Falcons - Malik Nabers 

Bears - Jared Verse 

Jets - Rome Odunze / Brock Bowers 

 

So, a Giant Penix ... hmmm 

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