Hypothetical: What would the draft talk be if the Jets had lost 1 more game and were picking 6th?

[TuscanyTile2]

 

Probably 3 QBs would be gone in the 1st 3 picks.  Maybe MHJ at 4 and not sure at 5 (Joe Alt?)  We'd probably be getting great offers for JJ McCarthy (which I think JD would pull the trigger on).  And there'd be a way better chance at getting Joe Alt (I'm not sure what the Chargers are going to do). 

It would've made a huge difference for us.  

[Integrity28]

I don’t think it’d be any different, except if that extra loss was the straw that broke the camels back and everyone got fired.

I think the Jets (rightly so) are signaling the could go QB. They want as many QBs selected before 10 as possible, so other positions fall to them.

[Greensleeves]

I would think Alt or Nabers would be ours - whichever one was there. This doesn't bother me - the teams ahead of us roster wise were worse than we were, so they should be picking before us. Some of those teams over achieved and we under achieved. 

[hawk]

We would be almost assured a suitor to trade back.  

[derp]

From my perspective it would be quite different.

Right now there’s a good chance at least one of the guys everybody’s talking about at 10 goes 20 or later. If they were at six nobody in consideration would go after pick 10.

They’d be pretty much assured one of the top four position players in the draft and/or a strong trade down package.

Any of the Washington, Giants, first Bills, or maybe Eagles games could’ve very easily been a loss too.

[slats]

This is good. I’m sure a lot of folks were looking for another opportunity to complain about winning too many games last year. 

[Gastineau Lives]

Dude are you trying to ruin my enjoyment of watching those awesome victories against Washington and New England I got on the vcr??

[TuscanyTile2]

5 minutes ago, slats said:

This is good. I’m sure a lot of folks were looking for another opportunity to complain about winning too many games last year. 

I know I was! 

[Dcat]

EIther they trade down from 6 for a massive haul from a team needing a QB or they pick Alt/Odunze/Nabors.  /end thread.

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, Dcat said:

EIther they trade down from 6 for a massive haul from a team needing a QB or they pick Alt/Odunze/Nabors.  /end thread.

It's just that easy?  How about our current draft situation at 1.10 then?  Just as easy?  

[Dcat]

4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

It's just that easy?  How about our current draft situation at 1.10 then?  Just as easy?  

Virtually impossible.  By pick 10 less likely to have a move up and Alt/Rome/Nabors gone gone goodbye.  It could be Bowers or trade out if you can find a taker.  Good luck finding a taker who would actually move up for the TE.  Not happening. And we'd have zero problem at pick 6.

Saleh's meaningless wins last year and the year before cost us significantly.  

 

[doitny]

i wouldnt lose sleep over this. 

back in 2022 if we picked 3rd would we pick Stingley? maybe.

if we picked 8th would we pick London? again nobody knows but its possible.

i think we are all very happy with what we got that day. i dont think one spot would make a difference

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Maybe a smidge more trade offers. Otherwise no difference. 
There’s not just 3 top players in this draft. There’s plenty to be had. 

[Dcat]

Just now, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

Maybe a smidge more trade offers. Otherwise no difference. 
There’s not just 3 top players in this draft. There’s plenty to be had. 

at 6 you get Rome or Alt.  At 10 not so easy. 

[derp]

6 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

Maybe a smidge more trade offers. Otherwise no difference. 
There’s not just 3 top players in this draft. There’s plenty to be had. 

There’s not just three…there’s four.

[TuscanyTile2]

31 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

Maybe a smidge more trade offers. Otherwise no difference. 
There’s not just 3 top players in this draft. There’s plenty to be had. 

If JJ McCarthy fell to #6 (no guarantee because the Chargers could trade out of #5), that could've changed everything for this franchise.  We'd have very likely been able to trade down and still get a very good OL, plus a WR, plus draft capital for next year.

[bicketybam]

I blame Slappy for having the one good game of his career against Houston last year. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

[bla bla bla]

Blew my stack over the Commanders win, couldn't just be dominant, needed go allow a 30 point comeback or whatever it was. Didn't really care about the Patriot win after that.

From a practicality standpoint, if we were in front of the Giants we'd have a trade down opportunity or one of the top 2 WRs would be a lock.

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, bicketybam said:

I blame Slappy for having the one good game of his career against Houston last year. He's the gift that keeps on giving.

He was mocked for being in Utah during the earthquake yesterday.  You're going to have to step it up quite a bit to have the impact you're hoping for.

[Dcat]

10 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Blew my stack over the Commanders win, couldn't just be dominant, needed go allow a 30 point comeback or whatever it was. Didn't really care about the Patriot win after that.

From a practicality standpoint, if we were in front of the Giants we'd have a trade down opportunity or one of the top 2 WRs would be a lock.

yup.  Saleh and his meaningless wins. pffft!

[bicketybam]

9 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He was mocked for being in Utah during the earthquake yesterday.  You're going to have to step it up quite a bit to have the impact you're hoping for.

In all seriousness, that game alone should increase his value to a 2029 7th. Thank you, Slappy. Thank you!

[Plen T]

Huge difference between 6 and 10 not sure what these guys are talking about

likely get a haul to trade back for McCarthy or draft Nabers/Alt

Bobby Boy screws the Jets again

[TuscanyTile2]

5 minutes ago, Dcat said:

yup.  Saleh and his meaningless wins. pffft!

And a 30-0 loss against the Dolphins when we still had longshot playoff hopes.

[bitonti]

33 minutes ago, doitny said:

i wouldnt lose sleep over this. 

back in 2022 if we picked 3rd would we pick Stingley? maybe.

if we picked 8th would we pick London? again nobody knows but its possible.

i think we are all very happy with what we got that day. i dont think one spot would make a difference

this is the way 

good teams don't stress out about picking 25 or 31 

they just make good picks

picking high doesn't mean jack sh*t when you're picking Zach Wilson 

[slimjasi]

Alt, Nabers, or Odunze would be a Jet, most likely 

[Warfish]

It would be exactly the same:  OL or WR or maybe the TE, maybe.

[varjet]

• if the Jets were picking 6 the practical choices were Nabers, Odunze and Alt.  Anyone of those players makes the Jets a better team.
• For this draft, there is one person making the Jets pick at 10.  That person is Woody Johnson.  It is his team and he should take responsibility for the pick.  JD can tell him who he thinks are the players he like who can play on this team.  So practically he is recommending an OL that is the best option, recommending if he likes a QB (Nix, Penix, JJM), the playmaker he likes (Bowers or BTJ) and how he views the defenders and if they are worth it.  Woody should then make the pick.  Maybe he decides to plan for the future and take a QB.  Maybe he chooses OL depth rather than a playmaker.  But I think the choice should be on Woody and he should not be able to blame anyone else.  
• We know Woody is intimately involved with all the decisions for this team.  Let him take responsibility for this one.
• If I were Woody, it is clear that the Jets are going all in on 2024. I would take Fantanu who can back up across the OL, hopefully after trading down.  Those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.  
  • I don't know if that is the decision best for the Jets in the long-term, but I think that is the decision best for the Jets in 2024, which at this point is all that matters.   Chris was trying to build long-term.  Woody came back from London and went for broke, again.  

[Tranquilo]

We’d be picking a generational WR or a legit starting tackle. No big deal.

You guys kidding me that it isn’t much different?!

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, Tranquilo said:

We’d be picking a generational WR or a legit starting tackle. No big deal.

You guys kidding me that it isn’t much different?!

Or trade down and get a bunch of assets that could help fix the holes that have only been patched by JD with 1 year FA deals.

[bitonti]

4 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Or trade down and get a bunch of assets that could help fix the holes that have only been patched by JD with 1 year FA deals.

i'm old enough to remember when the Jets had 1.1 in the NFL Draft and they traded down a million times

passed on Orlando Pace, passed on Walter Jones, Took James Farrior and like 11 other bums (DT Jason Ferguson in the 7th was like the best pick) 

trading down seems amazing in theory in practice there's a reason why the top players go high  

[Dunnie]

i'm old enough to remember when the Jets had 1.1 in the NFL Draft and they traded down a million times
passed on Orlando Pace, passed on Walter Jones, Took James Farrior and like 11 other bums (DT Jason Ferguson in the 7th was like the best pick) 
trading down seems amazing in theory in practice there's a reason why the top players go high  

The same James Farrior they traded to Pitt to become a stud linebacker for a decade ... Cause coaching matters.

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[RedBeardedSavage]

We'd be knee deep in threads about Nabers v Odunze and talking about how we should trade up into the second to acquire an offensive tackle.

The dream lives, though.

I'd love for Odunze (or Nabers, but doubt it) to fall to 10 and for us to trade up into the second for Kiran Amegadjie the Yale OT. 

We've been lucky before, Stingley goes in front of Sauce + London went ahead of Garrett. Maybe we get lucky again?

[jamesr]

Coach who gets blamed for not winning enough games also gets blamed for not losing enough games.

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[GreenFish]

At 6 we’d be talking about going WR/OT with the understanding the Jets will without a doubt get either the top OT or 1 of the top 3 WRs.

At 10 we are HOPING one of those guys last.

Going Bowers would not be part of the conversation at 6.

[derp]

37 minutes ago, bitonti said:

this is the way 

good teams don't stress out about picking 25 or 31 

they just make good picks

picking high doesn't mean jack sh*t when you're picking Zach Wilson 

It doesn’t matter if you’re picking higher.

12 minutes ago, bitonti said:

i'm old enough to remember when the Jets had 1.1 in the NFL Draft and they traded down a million times

passed on Orlando Pace, passed on Walter Jones, Took James Farrior and like 11 other bums (DT Jason Ferguson in the 7th was like the best pick) 

trading down seems amazing in theory in practice there's a reason why the top players go high  

Also, the better players go higher.

 

You're the man bit, I’m just giving you a hard time.