How would the draft have to fall for Alt to be a Jet?

[Maynard13]

This is the guy we need. The guy we would have gotten if we had lost to NY Giants and Washington. But NO we had to pull off two improbable, impossible wins and fallback to 10.  I have seen a few scenarios where Alt falls to10 but thats only with the Titans taking T Fashanua over Alt which just aint happening.  The only other possibility I can think of is someone moves up to 7 and trades with the Titans to grab a QB, say McCarthy.  Any other ways? 

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Mccarthy QB - Trade with Titans - #12 and 2025 1st for #7

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Alt T 

JD doesnt have the draft capitol to trade up. Long shot but who knows.

 

[Sperm Edwards]

4 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

This is the guy we need. The guy we would have gotten if we had lost to NY Giants and Washington. But NO we had to pull off two improbable, impossible wins and fallback to 10.  I have seen a few scenarios where Alt falls to10 but thats only with the Titans taking T Fashanua over Alt which just aint happening.  The only other possibility I can think of is someone moves up to 7 and trades with the Titans to grab a QB, say McCarthy.  Any other ways? 

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Mccarthy QB - Trade with Titans - #12 and 2025 1st for #7

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Alt T 

JD doesnt have the draft capitol to trade up. Long shot but who knows.

 

Answer: get a disgruntled Alt acquaintance involved

 

[JohnnyLV]

4 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

This is the guy we need. The guy we would have gotten if we had lost to NY Giants and Washington. But NO we had to pull off two improbable, impossible wins and fallback to 10.  I have seen a few scenarios where Alt falls to10 but thats only with the Titans taking T Fashanua over Alt which just aint happening.  The only other possibility I can think of is someone moves up to 7 and trades with the Titans to grab a QB, say McCarthy.  Any other ways? 

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Mccarthy QB - Trade with Titans - #12 and 2025 1st for #7

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Alt T 

JD doesnt have the draft capitol to trade up. Long shot but who knows.

 

Some people think Latham might go before Alt. I think there is a good chance he is there. I also believe they are not taking OT at 10

[derp]

Chargers need to trade out or go WR. Titans need to trade out or go with a different tackle. Bears need to not trade out to a team that wants Alt. It’s not that out there for him to make it to ten. I don’t think it’s a lock the Jets take him if he’s there but it’d be reasonable if they did.

[Maynard13]

Alt is the first tackle that will be off the board. Thats a lock. In many of the mocks I've seen, as many as EIGHT Tackles have gone in the first round:

ALt, Fashanau, Fuaga, Latham, Fantanu, Mims, Guyton, Suamataia

Thats a lot of tackles.

[hawk]

9 players other than Alt would have to drafted.  Give or take.

[Maynard13]

7 minutes ago, derp said:

Chargers need to trade out or go WR. Titans need to trade out or go with a different tackle. Bears need to not trade out to a team that wants Alt. It’s not that out there for him to make it to ten. I don’t think it’s a lock the Jets take him if he’s there but it’d be reasonable if they did.

Chargers are also a key to Alt falling to 10. WR or a trade with Raiders or Vikings or Broncos (selecting McCarthy) which then puts Chargers behind us at 10.  

[Bowles Movement]

9 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

Some people think Latham might go before Alt. I think there is a good chance he is there. I also believe they are not taking OT at 10

We have two tackles coming off injuries, and both on one year deals.   I think that we could possibly use a WR more this year, but if Alt is there at 10 and we dont take the best tackle in this class, there should be an investigation.   If Alt is there that means the top 3 WR s were taken and we are looking at the 4 th best at 10.

[Beerfish]

2 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Alt is the first tackle that will be off the board. Thats a lock. In many of the mocks I've seen, as many as EIGHT Tackles have gone in the first round:

ALt, Fashanau, Fuaga, Latham, Fantanu, Mims, Guyton, Suamataia

Thats a lot of tackles.

Not sure if it is a lock.   There has been enough murmuring going on that some people have Alt rated below other oline.

Same types of murmurs as MHJ not being the 1st Wr off the board.

It doesn't matter if 30 of 32 teams feel he is the #1 tackle if the team doing the picking is one of the two that do not think he is #1.

[derp]

2 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Chargers are also a key to Alt falling to 10. WR or a trade with Raiders or Vikings or Broncos (selecting McCarthy) which then puts Chargers behind us at 10.  

I don’t know what’s also about it haha, the Chargers going WR or trading out was the first thing I listed.

[David Harris]

4 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Not sure if it is a lock.   There has been enough murmuring going on that some people have Alt rated below other oline.

Same types of murmurs as MHJ not being the 1st Wr off the board.

It doesn't matter if 30 of 32 teams feel he is the #1 tackle if the team doing the picking is one of the two that do not think he is #1.

Smokescreens probably. 
 

He's got the size, RAS, bloodlines, pedigree-close to a lock. 
 

MHJ then Alt for me.

Feels like we’re going to pass on Olu and I’m worried that may be a mistake in the longterm.

[Maynard13]

9 minutes ago, derp said:

I don’t know what’s also about it haha, the Chargers going WR or trading out was the first thing I listed.

I cant see the Chargers passing on a WR.  Herbert needs a #1 target and either Nabers or Odunze will be there. They could trade back and take Bowers who is a freak playmaker. 

[rangerous]

I think for alt to drop to ten there would Ave to be a pretty large run on QBs and wrs not mention a couple of defensive guys that might sneak up there.

[T0mShane]

I feel like you have a better chance at getting up for Marvin Harrison Jr than Alt

[derp]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like you have a better chance at getting up for Marvin Harrison Jr than Alt

[T0mShane]

1 minute ago, derp said:

MHJ is obviously the better prospect, but the delta between him, Nabers and Odunze is (supposedly) much, much tighter than it would be between Alt and Latham or Fashanu. If a team in the top 7 wants a tackle, they’re sticking and picking Alt. But if someone wants a receiver, they can move down some and still get a blue chip. 

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

MHJ is obviously the better prospect, but the delta between him, Nabers and Odunze is (supposedly) much, much tighter than it would be between Alt and Latham or Fashanu. If a team in the top 7 wants a tackle, they’re sticking and picking Alt. But if someone wants a receiver, they can move down some and still get a blue chip. 

Current odds right now for first non-QB drafted: MHJ and Nabers, then Alt, then a dive from Alt +1200 to +2500 for Odunze. Three receivers, then one pure left tackle prospect by himself.
 

[Larz]

I’ve seen at least 2 breakdowns that don’t have him as a top 10 guy. I would be totally ok passing on Alt at 10

[Augustiniak]

26 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

I cant see the Chargers passing on a WR.  Herbert needs a #1 target and either Nabers or Odunze will be there. They could trade back and take Bowers who is a freak playmaker. 

I agree.  I think Arizona, chargers and giants all go wr after 3 qbs.  And actually i think the guy who may make it to 10 is mccarthy

[slats]

53 minutes ago, JohnnyLV said:

Some people think Latham might go before Alt. I think there is a good chance he is there. I also believe they are not taking OT at 10

And yet you wouldn’t be surprised if they took Penix there. Interesting…

[Maynard13]

23 hours ago, T0mShane said:

I feel like you have a better chance at getting up for Marvin Harrison Jr than Alt

Its posts like this where the slap to the face emoji hits just right 🤦‍♂️

[Jdeet]

The only way is, if the Titans decide to trade out, which based upon what they have done in the offseason, doesn’t seem like they will. They have a glaring need at OT and Alt is the guy they apparently want. 

7-10 in the draft are teams that don’t need QBs.  Any one of them can trade with the Vikings, Broncos or Raiders, for whatever QB is left on the board after the top 6. But it might not be much incentive, if the top 4 QBs are already gone. 

Alt is going to the Titans, unless a QB falls and the Titans like another OT more than Alt. Don’t see it happening. And in my opinion, I would still want Nabers/Odunze/Bowers for the Jets, over Alt, either way.  

[Larz]

 

@Maynard13

 

 

[Augustiniak]

1 minute ago, Jdeet said:

The only way is, if the Titans decide to trade out, which based upon what they have done in the offseason, doesn’t seem like they will. They have a glaring need at OT and Alt is the guy they apparently want. 

7-10 in the draft are teams that don’t need QBs.  Any one of them can trade with the Vikings, Broncos or Raiders, for whatever QB is left on the board after the top 6. But it might not be much incentive, if the top 4 QBs are already gone. 

Alt is going to the Titans, unless a QB falls and the Titans like another OT more than Alt. Don’t see it happening. And in my opinion, I would still want Nabers/Odunze/Bowers for the Jets, over Alt, either way.  

Going with this theme, if you buy into the notion that teams are locked into a guy at the top and don’t want additional draft capital to move back, then you could have qb, qb, qb, wr, wr wr.  Then alt.  So now you’re looking at atlanta and Chicago next, and chicago has no inventive to move back either, they’re just taking their favorite guy who is not a qb.  

So in this scenario, the only team that might move out of the top 9 is atlanta.  Maybe.  If this scenario holds you may have multiple teams competing to get there.  But it does seem as if mccarthy could slip to 10, and also this is even before a team may covet penix more than mccarthy anyway.  I wonder what they’re discussing about these scenarios. 

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, hawk said:

9 players other than Alt would have to drafted.  Give or take.

Put an end to this stupid thread pretty quickly, well done.

[Maynard13]

6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

I agree.  I think Arizona, chargers and giants all go wr after 3 qbs.  And actually i think the guy who may make it to 10 is mccarthy

Thats very intuiutive.  And of course, if McCarthy falls to 10 without being traded for before we pick, its a good chance soemone (Raiders, Vikes, Broncos) trades with us to get him. Just to play out your thinking:

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Alt

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Jets ?  Trade with Vikes @ 11, Broncos @ 12, Raiders @ 13.   Who among these three are more desperate for a QB and have fallen head over heels for McCarthy.  From the rumor mill, it seems that would be the Broncos,then the Vikes. 

 

[Maynard13]

14 minutes ago, Larz said:

 

@Maynard13

 

 

Who doesnt have some flaws other than @Jetsfan80

[Augustiniak]

Just now, Maynard13 said:

Thats very intuiutive.  And of course, if McCarthy falls to 10 without being traded for before we pick, its a good chance soemone (Raiders, Vikes, Broncos) trades with us to get him. Just to play out your thinking:

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Alt

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Jets ?  Trade with Vikes @ 11, Broncos @ 12, Raiders @ 13.   Who among these three are more desperate for a QB and have fallen head over heels for McCarthy.  From the rumor mill, it seems that would be the Broncos,then the Vikes. 

 

Also, i would not be surprised if the raiders want penix and trade up for him.  So teams could have competing offers.  But i actually think what the giants do impacts this a lot.  If they take the qb, that’s different than if the qb slides.  But if this chalk scenario unfolds, you’d have to figure the Vikings would be going nuts to move up for mccarthy.  Also, increasingly i think douglas wouldn’t take bowers, he would go fashanu and never have to hear about how his tackles suck ever again.  The wr class is deep enough to get a quality wr in round 3.  Idk what they would do with him at first, though.  

[Maynard13]

13 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Put an end to this stupid thread pretty quickly, well done.

Whats stupid is you fail to see the various scenarios that could eveolve one way or the other

 

[Larz]

12 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Who doesnt have some flaws other than @Jetsfan80

Getting your feet together is more than a flaw. Having both feet in the air at the same time is not good. Did you watch it? 
 

the only person that should have their ass that high in the air is a stripper 

[T0mShane]

41 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Its posts like this where the slap to the face emoji hit just right 🤦‍♂️

Regardless, if we’re sitting there and we hear the Jets traded up to five, it’s going to be for the receiver anyway. They’re not trading future picks to come up for a left tackle with Tyron Smith on the roster!

[Maynard13]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Regardless, if we’re sitting there and we hear the Jets traded up to five, it’s going to be for the receiver anyway. They’re not trading future picks to come up for a left tackle with Tyron Smith on the roster!

Ok The 10th, next year's 1st and your supply of ayahusca.

[Maynard13]

13 minutes ago, Larz said:

Getting your feet together is more than a flaw. Having both feet in the air at the same time is not good. Did you watch it? 
 

the only person that should have their ass that high in the air is a stripper 

And how many sacks did he give up with that ass in the sky last year? ZERO

[derp]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

MHJ is obviously the better prospect, but the delta between him, Nabers and Odunze is (supposedly) much, much tighter than it would be between Alt and Latham or Fashanu. If a team in the top 7 wants a tackle, they’re sticking and picking Alt. But if someone wants a receiver, they can move down some and still get a blue chip. 

I don’t think the first part is necessarily true. Wouldn’t surprise me at all to see another tackle, Latham in particular, go ahead of him.

And I think the supposedly close delta between MHJ and Nabers in particular masks the fact that Harrison is the best prospect in this class and probably would’ve been the best in the last few.

Also not many teams ahead of the Jets need tackles but literally every team 3-9 could take a WR. Harrison isn’t going lower than like 6.

[Jdeet]

33 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Thats very intuiutive.  And of course, if McCarthy falls to 10 without being traded for before we pick, its a good chance soemone (Raiders, Vikes, Broncos) trades with us to get him. Just to play out your thinking:

1 Chi Caleb QB

2 Wash Daniels QB

3 NE Maye QB

4 Ari MHJ WR

5 Chargers Nabers

6 NY Giants Odunze

7 Broncos - Alt

8 Falcons Turner Edge

9 Chi Latu Edge

10 Jets ?  Trade with Vikes @ 11, Broncos @ 12, Raiders @ 13.   Who among these three are more desperate for a QB and have fallen head over heels for McCarthy.  From the rumor mill, it seems that would be the Broncos,then the Vikes. 

 

Assuming you mean Titans at 7. Don’t think the broncos trade up to get Alt. They would trade up to get QB though.  

I do think, in this scenario, the Giants take a QB over Odunze. Could then see the Bears taking Odunze before us.