The chargers scare me

[83Kelly2Allen18]

They just signed Ben Mason a bruising full back ( the factor back ) and two physical tight ends in dissly/ hurst. Gus Edwards and Isaiah Spiller are tough between the tackles rbs. I got a feeling they're now taking Alt on the Oline in the draft giving them one of the best young lines in the league. 

 

I really think with harbaugh and a powerful run game, that team can be awesome. 

I've always said Herbert is a transcendent talent and is a top 3 QB imo. 

I can easily see that team winning 12-14 games if they have a good draft. 

 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

1 minute ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

They just signed Ben Mason a bruising full back ( the factor back ) and two physical tight ends in dissly/ hurst. Gus Edwards and Isaiah Spiller are tough between the tackles rbs. I got a feeling they're now taking Alt on the Oline in the draft giving them one of the best young lines in the league. 

I really think with harbaugh and a powerful run game, that team can be awesome. 

I've always said Herbert is a transcendent talent and is a top 3 QB imo. 

I can easily see that team winning 12-14 games if they have a good draft. 

They're a talented team (especially at QB) and they just added a great HC.  I wouldn't be surprised if they had a very good year.

[Bobby816]

They’ll be ok. But I think they let too much go this offseason. No WRs. Average defense. Ya Herbert can play and if teams have to stack the box he can beat them. But they have no weapon at WR that teams have to worry about. They go Alt top 5. Which they very well likely will do. They still have an overrated Johnston as their 1.

[Barry McCockinner]

I like Alt as a LT but he's not exactly a mauler int he running game

[83Kelly2Allen18]

It's very close to me who id rather have, Allen or Herbert. 

Herbert is a bit more under control. I love Herberts arm too. Dude is so talented 

[UntouchableCrew]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I like Alt as a LT but he's not exactly a mauler int he running game

Right if that’s the model they’re after I wouldn’t be shocked to see them take Fuaga.

[83Kelly2Allen18]

Just now, UntouchableCrew said:

Right if that’s the model they’re after I wouldn’t be shocked to see them take Fuaga.

You don't think Troy Fautanu is better from Washington? 

[slimjasi]

They will be be good. They have a puncher’s chance at that division if they draft well 

Gun to my head, I still think they take a WR at 5, but I wouldn’t put money on it 

[83Kelly2Allen18]

I need to get a Herbert rookie card for my sports collection 

[Vader]

Transcendent Talent 

[Larz]

You can’t think team needs because of trades. You have to only look at players. 
 

the nightmare scenario for the jets still leaves multiple options 

I’m actually at the point where I won’t look too hard at the players because I don’t want to fall in love with anyone. 
 

the probability of the jets drafting my guy is very low so I don’t want to hate the pick. 
 

we’re pretty safe it’s not going to be a NT or S so I’m good lol 

[UntouchableCrew]

41 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

You don't think Troy Fautanu is better from Washington? 

If you want a guard.

EDIT: Looks like Fautanu doesn’t have short arms — I thought he was the OT who was being projected as a G but might have mixed him on with someone else.

[Jdeet]

It would be shocking to me, if the Chargers don’t take Nabers/MHJ at 5 or trade down. LT is not a position of need for them and losing both of their starting WRs and RB, they desperately need playmakers for Herbert. 

FWIW, they are worse than last year, and they weren’t good. They lost a lot of talent. Yeah Herbert is good, but they don’t scare me at all. 

[Sperm Edwards]

19 minutes ago, Jdeet said:

It would be shocking to me, if the Chargers don’t take Nabers/MHJ at 5 or trade down. LT is not a position of need for them and losing both of their starting WRs and RB, they desperately need playmakers for Herbert. 

FWIW, they are worse than last year, and they weren’t good. They lost a lot of talent. Yeah Herbert is good, but they don’t scare me at all. 

Yeah I would be shocked if the Chargers deviated from one of two outcomes:

1. Draft the top WR remaining (eye of the beholder which that is, I guess)
2. Trade down if he gets a windfall offer (from Minnesota or someone else offering at least another 1st if not more)

IMO people are reading way too much into Harbaugh pontificating about the the trenches. I'll take him at his word he really feels that way, all other things being equal, but all other things are not equal. 

He has two young, starting OTs (one of them outstanding); yet not 1 reliable WR on the team (let alone such a difference-maker). He'd have to have no brains to pass up on either of the above two options just to upgrade his starting RT from a meh/bleh starter to a really good starter a year early, before even attempting to coach up the ones he's got. RTs come out every single draft, and veteran RTs are available in free agency every single FA period. Elite-skill, elite-prospect, prototypical WR1s are a hell of a lot harder to simply find on demand in the draft than a perfectly serviceable RT. 

What's he going to do, hopefully buy his QB another 0.3 seconds in which to realize there's no one to throw the ball to? Lmao.

Here's the fact: on 90% of the offensive snaps, even a bad starter-caliber OT is at least not doing harm (never mind from the right side). 

The only sure thing OT-drafting team is Tennessee. They need a LT so badly - and so calmly stayed away from the position in free agency - I don't think they're going to get cute about trading down instead of first dibs at the position, but who knows what's in a GM's mind.

[Beerfish]

Chargers: 31st vs the pass and 17th vs the run.

Their defense will doom them.   They have over paid some players that do not bring enough for the cap value as in bosa.

[83Kelly2Allen18]

10 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Chargers: 31st vs the pass and 17th vs the run.

Their defense will doom them.   They have over paid some players that do not bring enough for he cap value as in bosa.

It's not a talent issue tho

Bosa and Mack. Murray is an excellent talent at linebacker, James and Samuel in the secondary are awesome. 

 

Staley really was a horrible coach and a bizzare person. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

Their coach has crazy eyes

[Beerfish]

48 minutes ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

It's not a talent issue tho

Bosa and Mack. Murray is an excellent talent at linebacker, James and Samuel in the secondary are awesome. 

 

Staley really was a horrible coach and a bizzare person. 

Coaches should be paid 25 million a year instead of the players in that case.  Bosa is a huge underachievers hurt all the time and sporadically racks up stats, disappears when it counts.  

Derwin James, huge play maker, that gets kicked out of every 2nd game.

[hawk]

2 hours ago, Larz said:

You can’t think team needs because of trades. You have to only look at players. 
 

the nightmare scenario for the jets still leaves multiple options 

I’m actually at the point where I won’t look too hard at the players because I don’t want to fall in love with anyone. 
 

the probability of the jets drafting my guy is very low so I don’t want to hate the pick. 
 

we’re pretty safe it’s not going to be a NT or S so I’m good lol 

 

[PepPep]

2 hours ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

They just signed Ben Mason a bruising full back ( the factor back ) and two physical tight ends in dissly/ hurst. Gus Edwards and Isaiah Spiller are tough between the tackles rbs. I got a feeling they're now taking Alt on the Oline in the draft giving them one of the best young lines in the league. 

 

I really think with harbaugh and a powerful run game, that team can be awesome. 

I've always said Herbert is a transcendent talent and is a top 3 QB imo. 

I can easily see that team winning 12-14 games if they have a good draft. 

 

 

The Chargers def could be a very good team this year. But just like almost every team in the NFL, they have their warts. They lost their top WRs and their star RB and their defense underachieved last year when needed most with Herbert being beat up. There's a reason they are drafting this high. 

I agree Alt would be nasty across from Slater with that run game and Herbert chucking the ball. But I could also see them taking Nabers because they need a WR just as bad. Alt is not a slam dunk for the Chargers because hes some missing piece is what im saying. 

At any rate, they are drafting in the top 5 and will get a shot at a very good prospect, who may or may not bust. I don't think this impacts the Jets much. Alt is not falling to them anyway. With 3, maybe 4 QBs going in the top 10, the Jets will get a shot at their own very good prospect. And they have their own warts to worry about. 

The Jets don't even play the Chargers this season!  

[JetsFlyer]

The Jets scare me.. being held together with duct tape and string, led by saleh and a QB who likes mushrooms

[PepPep]

2 hours ago, UntouchableCrew said:

If you want a guard.

EDIT: Looks like Fautanu doesn’t have short arms — I thought he was the OT who was being projected as a G but might have mixed him on with someone else.

He was that guy, Fautanu out of Washington. Should be listed as a T, he played both LT and LG most of his college career if I am not mistaken.  He went to the combine and showed his arms, although not exceptionally long, are 'long enough' to play the position. Then he wowed at the agility skill drills, showing great movement, footwork and quickness. But he was originally projected to be a guard. Not sure what his best position will be in the NFL. And I personally would rate him behind Fashanu, Mims and Fuaga. But I think he can play T at the NFL level, even if he finds a home as a G.

[Larz]

1 hour ago, hawk said:

 

He’s gonna drop to 72!

[Rich Thornburgh]

KC should scare you more.  A lot more

[Rich Thornburgh]

1 hour ago, JetsFlyer said:

The Jets scare me.. being held together with duct tape and string, led by saleh and a QB who likes mushrooms

They need to draft a qb at 10.  

[jetfan40yrs]

4 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

They’ll be ok. But I think they let too much go this offseason. No WRs. Average defense. Ya Herbert can play and if teams have to stack the box he can beat them. But they have no weapon at WR that teams have to worry about. They go Alt top 5. Which they very well likely will do. They still have an overrated Johnston as their 1.

They may very well draft WRs in rounds 2 & 3.

[Rolloffjet]

If chargers scare you so much maybe you should of thought of that before you decided to become a bottom 😮

[Claymation]

Do iPhone chargers scare you as well?

[Raideraholic]

4 hours ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

They just signed Ben Mason a bruising full back ( the factor back ) and two physical tight ends in dissly/ hurst. Gus Edwards and Isaiah Spiller are tough between the tackles rbs. I got a feeling they're now taking Alt on the Oline in the draft giving them one of the best young lines in the league. 

 

I really think with harbaugh and a powerful run game, that team can be awesome. 

I've always said Herbert is a transcendent talent and is a top 3 QB imo. 

I can easily see that team winning 12-14 games if they have a good draft. 

 

 

No one afraid of the chargers who are looking at third place in AFC West .   The chargers chance has passed , and going to take a couple years for them to get back to where once they were .   Their offense is no match for the Raiders , and Chiefs defense .   

[jetsons]

[JoJoTownsell1]

5 hours ago, 83Kelly2Allen18 said:

They just signed Ben Mason a bruising full back ( the factor back ) and two physical tight ends in dissly/ hurst. Gus Edwards and Isaiah Spiller are tough between the tackles rbs. I got a feeling they're now taking Alt on the Oline in the draft giving them one of the best young lines in the league. 

 

I really think with harbaugh and a powerful run game, that team can be awesome. 

I've always said Herbert is a transcendent talent and is a top 3 QB imo. 

I can easily see that team winning 12-14 games if they have a good draft. 

 

 

Spiller is terrible and they lost an elite WR in Keenan Allen and very good deep threat in Mike Williams. They have arguably the worst RB/WR/TE rooms in all of football and a plodding RB in Gus Edwards. They will be bad. Very bad. 

Maybe Harbaugh will turn this team around, but not without WR/RB/TE talent. This isn't 1986. You can't just run the ball up the middle 40 times a game and expect to keep up with Patrick Mahomes. 

[Lupz27]

1 hour ago, Raideraholic said:

No one afraid of the chargers who are looking at third place in AFC West .   The chargers chance has passed , and going to take a couple years for them to get back to where once they were .   Their offense is no match for the Raiders , and Chiefs defense .   

In your dreams bud.

They are going to trade back with Minnesota for 11, 23, next years 1st and a 3rd.

Get the best Run mauling OL at 11, and a WR at 23, and grab Blake Corum possibly somewhere.

Herbert won’t need much help if they are averaging 4-5 yards per carry.  He will eat D’s up off PA to whoever is running free.

[Bobby816]

1 hour ago, jetfan40yrs said:

They may very well draft WRs in rounds 2 & 3.

That doesn’t mean they’ll be good. Or that they’ll even get targets over Samuel. 

[Lupz27]

31 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Spiller is terrible and they lost an elite WR in Keenan Allen and very good deep threat in Mike Williams. They have arguably the worst RB/WR/TE rooms in all of football and a plodding RB in Gus Edwards. They will be bad. Very bad. 

Maybe Harbaugh will turn this team around, but not without WR/RB/TE talent. This isn't 1986. You can't just run the ball up the middle 40 times a game and expect to keep up with Patrick Mahomes. 

I mean that’s exactly how you beat Patrick Mahomes.

Maybe not up the middle every time but keep him off the field, 40 rushing attempts with a good YPC is the blue print (also can not settle for FG’s have to get it in the end zone).

[83Kelly2Allen18]

1 hour ago, Raideraholic said:

No one afraid of the chargers who are looking at third place in AFC West .   The chargers chance has passed , and going to take a couple years for them to get back to where once they were .   Their offense is no match for the Raiders , and Chiefs defense .   

Justin Herbert is awesome