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14 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

I found Corley watching his QB, Austin Reed.  A non-traditional WR, lots of gimmicky routes, everything at or around the LOS but there are some routes he runs that are pretty damn smooth too but it was stuff he was running 5 wide and outside of the hash marks on a college field and nobody in the NFL defends the hash marks like the way his competition did and this was CUSA level of comp ie; the worst of the worst.  Its why he was able to run through or around everyone and was the "YAC king", his film his fun to watch but some of the tackling and the way teams try to defend that offense, was laughable.  

He has a massive learning curve ahead of him, like, gigantic.  As I've mentioned, it's not just the typical rookie stuff (and this dude worked hard and reshaped his body during the predraft process so who knows how fast he's going to hit the proverbial rookie wall) but also, the playbook, the level of comp, the route tree he'll need to develop, etc. are huge hills to climb.  And he may just be able to handle it all in stride and have a great career but I would temper your expectations for him as a rookie.  This is NOT, a Deebo Samuel and he's not a Brock Bowers "replacement" or whatever, both are very unfair comps and going to set fans up for major disappointment.   The better comp is a smaller, Laviska Shenault. 

The problem in evaluating each wr is that we tend to compare them to the best at the position.  If you’re the wr #3 on a team with a good rb, you’re going to be covered by some marginal cb anyway.  You’re not getting sauce each snap.  Also when you have different wrs attacking different depths of the field you don’t need a perfect wr prospect to catch a screen pass each series.   There’s plenty of flawed offensive prospects who get yards by simply lining up and having an OC who can get you the ball.  More worried about the OC here than Corley.

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16 minutes ago, slats said:

I’ll take 600 yards and 5 TDs in Corley’s rookie year, too, and see where it goes from there. 

I meant the talent, not the production.  Shenault was on a 1-15 team, competing w/ DJ Chark, Chris Conley and Keelan Cole.  

Slightly different than a veteran led team who wont be losing in every game they play and competing against Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams and Aaron Rodgers favorite teammate of all time.

but, yeah, who wouldnt take that?  It just not very realistic IMO. 

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49 minutes ago, slats said:

It’s interesting to me -and not in a good way- that the only “starter” the Jets drafted this year is also the only draft pick who hasn’t signed. These things generally go quickly, especially once you’re out of the first round, because the contract values are set by the league. I don’t know what the delay might be. This is the rookie who is line to be the biggest contributor from the class, I’d like to see his deal done today. 

Half of the third round picks in the league are unsigned, and of the 16 who signed, 6 signed yesterday and the others on the 10th. Nothing unusual here. 

(Source https://www.footballdb.com/transactions/draft-signings.html)

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3 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

Half of the third round picks in the league are unsigned, and of the 16 who signed, 6 signed yesterday and the others on the 10th. Nothing unusual here. 

(Source https://www.footballdb.com/transactions/draft-signings.html)

I hope so, and it’s probably true. But he did manage to sign everyone else yesterday. 

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1 hour ago, JustInFudge said:

I meant the talent, not the production.  Shenault was on a 1-15 team, competing w/ DJ Chark, Chris Conley and Keelan Cole.  

Slightly different than a veteran led team who wont be losing in every game they play and competing against Garrett Wilson, Mike Williams and Aaron Rodgers favorite teammate of all time.

but, yeah, who wouldnt take that?  It just not very realistic IMO. 

I expect Wilson is the #1 receiver with twice the number of targets as #2 receiver Breece. Then Williams, Conklin, and Corley, though not necessarily in that order. The one thing going for Rodgers’ “favorite teammate of all time” (lol), is that after drafting Corley to start in the slot, they’ve also picked up a couple return specialists. Gipson is a guy who might find himself traded away or cut and stashed on the practice squad, opening the backup slot role for Lazard. 

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1 hour ago, Augustiniak said:

The problem in evaluating each wr is that we tend to compare them to the best at the position.  If you’re the wr #3 on a team with a good rb, you’re going to be covered by some marginal cb anyway.  You’re not getting sauce each snap.  Also when you have different wrs attacking different depths of the field you don’t need a perfect wr prospect to catch a screen pass each series.   There’s plenty of flawed offensive prospects who get yards by simply lining up and having an OC who can get you the ball.  More worried about the OC here than Corley.

In general, I shy away from making comparisons.  The only reason I did in this case was because there are common comparisons being made out there, that as you said, people are comparing him to Deboo and I just dont think that's fair to Corley.

 

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2 hours ago, slats said:

It’s interesting to me -and not in a good way- that the only “starter” the Jets drafted this year is also the only draft pick who hasn’t signed. These things generally go quickly, especially once you’re out of the first round, because the contract values are set by the league. I don’t know what the delay might be. This is the rookie who is line to be the biggest contributor from the class, I’d like to see his deal done today. 

It's only been like a day or two since the others, don't overthink it lol. And agents aren't necessarily reflective of a player's personality, either. I'm a bit of a Corley skeptic but not based on his personality or the signing thing, no doubt he'll be on board soon 

Edit: yeah, as dogginit said, players also tend to sign based on what their adjacent picks get so no surprise. If anything let's just be glad fashanu is already on board

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5 minutes ago, JustInFudge said:

In general, I shy away from making comparisons.  The only reason I did in this case was because there are common comparisons being made out there, that as you said, people are comparing him to Deboo and I just dont think that's fair to Corley.

 

In concept i like players who create their own yards.  You can’t have all guys who need time to get downfield and are about finesse.  Also i like adding the big rb allen.  Make teams beat you physically.  That opener is going to be tough.

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3 hours ago, slats said:

It’s interesting to me -and not in a good way- that the only “starter” the Jets drafted this year is also the only draft pick who hasn’t signed. These things generally go quickly, especially once you’re out of the first round, because the contract values are set by the league. I don’t know what the delay might be. This is the rookie who is line to be the biggest contributor from the class, I’d like to see his deal done today. 

Yeah, we are running out of time. Smh 

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8 hours ago, TexJet said:

Another false narrative about Corley. "He’s hit 23 MPH on the GPS and clocked a 4.43 40-yard dash. His 4.08 shuttle time and 355-pound bench also are excellent."

Corley ran the 40-yard dash at Western Kentucky’s pro day in 4.56 seconds, according to The Athletic.

And bench pressing has no translation to the wr position.

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On 5/13/2024 at 2:00 PM, BreeceHallofFame said:

I thought the narrative was that he was a short little yac demon

Sounds like lazy reporting on your part lol 

the narrative on him is that he's an unrefined athlete dependent on getting manufactured touches and likely not a fit starting outside at WR... which is all true. Not to say he can't develop past that and be a difference maker but those facts weren't made up. The last 2 manufactured touch-WRs were Kadarius Toney and Laviska Shenault. I like Corley more than the other two, by a country mile, but there's also this thing called reality that played into why he was there in 3rd round and possibly later had the jets not fancied him. 

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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Corley ran the 40-yard dash at Western Kentucky’s pro day in 4.56 seconds, according to The Athletic.

And bench pressing has no translation to the wr position.

The bench might not have any translation to the WR position, but there are some who think that it does correlate for running back and since Corley is kind of a tweener there, it makes sense.

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2 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Corley ran the 40-yard dash at Western Kentucky’s pro day in 4.56 seconds, according to The Athletic.

And bench pressing has no translation to the wr position.

So 4.43 or 4.56. Or both? I think you are implying he is slow. I don't see that at all. But whatever. 

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26 minutes ago, TexJet said:

So 4.43 or 4.56. Or both? I think you are implying he is slow. I don't see that at all. But whatever. 

I like Corley.  Im just saying hes not lining up on the outside and blowing by anyone.  He is going to be used like we used berrios.

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1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

The bench might not have any translation to the WR position, but there are some who think that it does correlate for running back and since Corley is kind of a tweener there, it makes sense.

Plus it helps to be able to shed the defender at line of scrimmage. Plus chicks! 

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14 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

I like Corley.  Im just saying hes not lining up on the outside and blowing by anyone.  He is going to be used like we used berrios.

Fair enough. I think he'll be used on the outside occasionally. But yes, most of his work will be slot, motion stuff until he progresses his route running. Have high hopes for this kid.

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On 5/14/2024 at 12:20 AM, Nixhead said:

We were just as excited when the Jets drafted Elijah Moore and Mims and most of the other #2 picks so let’s not start sucking each others -  well u guys know - until he makes a pro bowl or 2. I’m gonna hold off on getting his jersey for at least until he catches a few TD’s in games that count. 

Stephen Hill is the one who put an ice pick in my heart after he disappeared following a brilliant opening game with 2 TDs against the Bills.

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On 5/14/2024 at 8:43 AM, slats said:

I hope so, and it’s probably true. But he did manage to sign everyone else yesterday. 

No worries.  The delay is due to him unloading the U-Haul rental at Aaron Rodgers guest cottage.  Had to get it back to the rental center by 4 pm.

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On 5/13/2024 at 5:12 PM, slats said:

The narrative is that his style of play is too much like that of Brock Bowers, with all the schemed touches behind the LOS and such, even though Bowers is already being fitted for a gold jacket. He’s two inches taller and 30lbs heavier than Gipson. His size is an asset, not an issue. 

yes. route running is the question. And I think that may be it. But, route running is a huge part of the job.

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4 hours ago, Dcat said:

Stephen Hill is the one who put an ice pick in my heart after he disappeared following a brilliant opening game with 2 TDs against the Bills.

We've had a few of those.

Nagle's first start was fantastic.  366 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs.  Never came close to that again.

Then there was Mosley's legendary 1st game (also the Bills) and the injury that took it all away from us.

Ah the life of a Jet fan...

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1 hour ago, JetsFanatic said:

Not a big deal but Malachi Corley is the only unsigned draft pick at this point

It would be nice if he signed for the first OTA next week but doesn’t really matter until June. 

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8 hours ago, Larz said:

It would be nice if he signed for the first OTA next week but doesn’t really matter until June. 

Actually it’s not a big deal till the start of Training camp. I can’t see a real issue with a third round rookie contract. 

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1 minute ago, JetsFanatic said:

Actually it’s not a big deal till the start of Training camp. I can’t see a real issue with a third round rookie contract. 

Agree 

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