Fangio 😬: Doesn’t look 👀 like Bryce Huff can play all 3 downs

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

LOL

Eagles just now waking up to what the Jets already knew 

 

[The Crusher]

One of a couple  reasons the should have just paid Bryce instead argument doesn’t hold gravy, yet to be fair he is in camp. Hello!! Mr. Reddick?

 

[Doggin94it]

2 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL

Eagles just now waking up to what the Jets already knew 

 

"I think everybody thought he could"

That said, it sounds like he's talking about technique against the run, rather than skill, and that'll come with reps and coaching that he was just not getting here since they just wanted him as a passrusher here

[Raideraholic]

3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL

Eagles just now waking up to what the Jets already knew 

 

If Hassan Reddick can play the run - he’s much smaller player than Huff.    Huff should be able to play the run.   It’s all about technique , and getting yourself stronger, and the mindset to want to stop the run.  The Raiders Malcolm Koonce it took time for him to develop his skills to stop the run.  If Huff wants to be a full time player , he’s going to have to get better defending the run.  Simple as that .

Some players like Yannick Ngakoue all they care about rushing the passer , and care little about playing the run.     You are going to bounce around multiple teams if that’s the case.

[BreeceHallofFame]

26 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

"I think everybody thought he could"

That said, it sounds like he's talking about technique against the run, rather than skill, and that'll come with reps and coaching that he was just not getting here since they just wanted him as a passrusher here

You don’t think Huff took thousands of reps in practice here in early downs?

[Trotter]

I like Bryce and hope he does well. The statement is a bit of an attention grabber insinuating he is only a pass rusher when in reality when you read it he has the potential to be a 3 down player - just not now.

Reddick is a 3 down player now - not potential.

Maybe we should let the people in the organization do their job before stating they suck, are a baffoon, asleep etc. 

This might not work out but if you are the GM and you have to make a decision on Huff at significant money knowing he might be a 3 down player, you simply giving out that contract or are you trying to make your team better?

And for those of you thinking great but the guy you replaced him with is not in camp and holding out - absolutely valid but look at the reality of Reddick's situation - he will be in camp soon.

 

 

 

[Dcat]

3 hours ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

LOL

Eagles just now waking up to what the Jets already knew 

 

Good.  Now all the Huff whiners here on this board can finally calm down and hopefully stop yapping.  

[Dcat]

2 hours ago, The Crusher said:

One of a couple  reasons the should have just paid Bryce instead argument doesn’t hold gravy, yet to be fair he is in camp. Hello!! Mr. Reddick?

 

As long as he's there for the games, that's all that seriously matters.  

[The Crusher]

Just now, Dcat said:

As long as he's there for the games, that's all that seriously matters.  

Agreed but doesn’t make us wait any less. 

[JiFtheOracle]

I mean, legit, I'm the ******* Oracle.  I'm literally, never wrong.  I mean, we've all know this for a while but I even surprise myself.

I'm her. 

@TuscanyTile2

[Scott Dierking]

Didn't Howie Roseman not look at tape of him, or talk to him?

[Scott Dierking]

28 minutes ago, Raideraholic said:

If Hassan Reddick can play the run - he’s much smaller player than Huff.    Huff should be able to play the run.   It’s all about technique , and getting yourself stronger, and the mindset to want to stop the run.  The Raiders Malcolm Koonce it took time for him to develop his skills to stop the run.  If Huff wants to be a full time player , he’s going to have to get better defending the run.  Simple as that .

Some players like Yannick Ngakoue all they care about rushing the passer , and care little about playing the run.     You are going to bounce around multiple teams if that’s the case.

Just ask Mark Gastineau. 

[rangerous]

Nothing new here. There’s a reason why the jets didn’t use him more. Very good disruptive player on passing downs but just didn’t play the run that well.  Maybe he’ll improve.  Look at Demario Davis. He was good with the jets but got much better as he played more.

[Claymation]

28 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Just ask Mark Gastineau. 

[Claymation]

1 hour ago, Doggin94it said:

"I think everybody thought he could"

That said, it sounds like he's talking about technique against the run, rather than skill, and that'll come with reps and coaching that he was just not getting here since they just wanted him as a passrusher here

[Barry McCockinner]

54 minutes ago, Trotter said:

I like Bryce and hope he does well. The statement is a bit of an attention grabber insinuating he is only a pass rusher when in reality when you read it he has the potential to be a 3 down player - just not now.

Reddick is a 3 down player now - not potential.

Maybe we should let the people in the organization do their job before stating they suck, are a baffoon, asleep etc. 

This might not work out but if you are the GM and you have to make a decision on Huff at significant money knowing he might be a 3 down player, you simply giving out that contract or are you trying to make your team better?

And for those of you thinking great but the guy you replaced him with is not in camp and holding out - absolutely valid but look at the reality of Reddick's situation - he will be in camp soon.

 

 

 

[The Crusher]

48 minutes ago, JifTheOracle said:

I mean, legit, I'm the ******* Oracle.  I'm literally, never wrong.  I mean, we've all know this for a while but I even surprise myself.

I'm her. 

@TuscanyTile2

Woah. 

[bicketybam]

50 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said:

Didn't Howie Roseman not look at tape of him, or talk to him?

I don't think he did. Roseman didn't have a clue he could only play on passing downs and then went and paid him like an every down player. Awful. @Matt39

[Biggs]

The Jets rotate defensive lineman to keep them fresh.  There is no reason that Huff needed to be a 3 down player with the Jets.  

[Trotter]

3 minutes ago, Biggs said:

The Jets rotate defensive lineman to keep them fresh.  There is no reason that Huff needed to be a 3 down player with the Jets.  

if i understand Huff's position, that is what he wanted. 

So if the Jets felt either he was not ready for that role or simply it was not in their scheme - you have to let him go

I kill JD for alot of things - I really can't fault him here 

[kmnj]

huff was a VERY productive player for us -10 sacks is not a number our defense has seen often this past decade -I dont care what % he played-there are LOTS of players that played way more snaps that were far less productive-I am confident if he played for the jets this year he was going to get 12-15 sacks

the beauty is there is no guessing game we will see how both players perform (if Joes guy ever shows up )

 

 

 

[Matt39]

36 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

I don't think he did. Roseman didn't have a clue he could only play on passing downs and then went and paid him like an every down player. Awful. @Matt39

Roseman gave Hurts one of the worst contracts in league history, so it’s possible too. 

[OilfieldJet]

At  least Huff is in camp.

[GangGreened]

Let’s see what happens when they play the games 

[Rich Thornburgh]

3 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

At  least Huff is in camp.

Anymore threads from jets fans “owning” ex-jet players who are actually reporting to practices?

[ARodJetsFan]

13 minutes ago, OilfieldJet said:

At  least Huff is in camp.

Fair enough, but it was also pretty clear, based on numerous interviews with Huff, that he didn't want to stay here.

The player has to want to be here.

There are a few things about Huff that I didn't particularly care for that I won't get into because it's water under the bridge now.

That said from everything I read about him, it was obvious to me, that Huff didn't want to remain with the only team, that gave him his opportunity as an UDFA, to play in the NFL.

That's gratitude for you.

[FidelioJet]

2 hours ago, Doggin94it said:

"I think everybody thought he could"

That said, it sounds like he's talking about technique against the run, rather than skill, and that'll come with reps and coaching that he was just not getting here since they just wanted him as a passrusher here

Yes.  That was an indictment on the Jet coaching staff and not the player. 

[Integrity28]

Can’t wait for the “Howie Roseman is brilliant” commentary … with the added context of him garbage picking from the NYJ roster.

[bicketybam]

21 minutes ago, kmnj said:

huff was a VERY productive player for us -10 sacks is not a number our defense has seen often this past decade -I dont care what % he played-there are LOTS of players that played way more snaps that were far less productive-I am confident if he played for the jets this year he was going to get 12-15 sacks

the beauty is there is no guessing game we will see how both players perform (if Joes guy ever shows up )

 

 

 

How would you rate his 7.5 sack total for the prior 3 years? VERY productive?

If the Eagles realize he is what he is...a passing down only player, I could see him getting 8 or so sacks this year. If they play him every down, I'd say that number drops to around 5. 

[Trotter]

We are experiencing how teams with talented rosters continue to build. It is new to us so we get agitated when we see it. I like Huff but there are other talented players who fill a similar role already here,  JD is in a position to move players for others who are either younger, more appealing from a salary perspective or simply have a larger ceiling.

Five years ago with the shape of the roster, Huff would have been signed to a large contract regardless of any shortcomings his game might have. That is not necessary anymore at least with the roster and depth they have built.

I remember the PATS letting Richard Seymour go and the world was coming to an end and the genius Belichek was a fool. I think they did ok without him

[Warfish]

We're 2 days into camp and some folks are already taking victory laps about Huff?  When our guy is a holdout?  Lol, this site some days.

In 4 years with the NYJ, Huff was only playing ~35% of the snaps.  His wanting to have a larger role, given his solid enough production, was natural.  I think it's safe to project he'll get more snaps with the Eagles than he would have with us.  Will it be 75%?  Probably not, but I doubt it'll be 20% (like it was here in 2022) either.

[Bleedin Green]

No reason to pay a guy for only 1-2 downs, when you can trade for another to play 0.

Jets are one step ahead yet again!

[kmnj]

31 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

How would you rate his 7.5 sack total for the prior 3 years? VERY productive?

If the Eagles realize he is what he is...a passing down only player, I could see him getting 8 or so sacks this year. If they play him every down, I'd say that number drops to around 5. 

he was a guy just learning the pro game-I would argue he will continue to get better and can be a disruptive force-I was sad to see him go -who do you trust more the eagles or the jets? the eagles got rid of riddick for huff-I sadly feel the eagles know better vs the jets especially  considering their roster is way better than ours ....

[kmnj]

23 minutes ago, Bleedin Green said:

No reason to pay a guy for only 1-2 downs, when you can trade for another to play 0.

Jets are one step ahead yet again!

and give up a third for him...

folks say it was only a third but then sing joes praises if he picks up a 4th or a 6th round pick in a deal.....

[BigRy56]

This is not surprising at all. Huff is a solid pass rusher but this isn’t Micah Parsons firing off the edge… more along the lines of Yannick Ngakoue. An effective rotational pass rusher who will play for a few different teams throughout his career. A really great career for an UDFA