The 3 highest paid OLs (avg per year) are now…

[Jetsfan80]

Per Schefter.

New highest-paid OL’s in per-year average:

🏈Tristan Wirfs: $28.126M
🏈Penei Sewell: $28M
🏈Christian Darrisaw: $26M
🏈Laremy Tunsil: $25M
🏈Andrew Thomas: $23.5M
 

 

Oof.  Which one is your favorite that that the Jets missed out on?

 @bitonti do your thing.  
 

(PS I’m very excited about the upcoming season - just can’t help myself when this stuff pops up!)

[nycdan]

You do know that what a player is paid has only moderate correlation to how good they are.  Last one to sign is paid the most.  Rookies are paid the least. 

You seem to be upset that we aren't paying our RT $28M/year.  He's a great player, but that feels like a problem.  I'm okay with $5.5M for Moses and having $22.5M to use elsewhere.

[jago]

have to think percent of cap for perspective.

[Joe W. Namath]

Olu Fashanu'$ next contract going up!

[Claymation]

30 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Per Schefter.

New highest-paid OL’s in per-year average:

🏈Tristan Wirfs: $28.126M
🏈Penei Sewell: $28M
🏈Christian Darrisaw: $26M
🏈Laremy Tunsil: $25M
🏈Andrew Thomas: $23.5M
 

 

Oof.  Which one is your favorite that that the Jets missed out on?

 @bitonti do your thing.  
 

(PS I’m very excited about the upcoming season - just can’t help myself when this stuff pops up!)

While it was a big miss, do you think any of them are as good as Tyron Smith, Outside Sewell?

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Claymation said:

While it was a big miss, do you think any of them are as good as Tyron Smith, Outside Sewell?

Probably not but we only get Tyron for this year and maybe next, if we’re lucky.  Then we’ll eventually need to try to draft our own Sewell/Wirfs to replace him.  And also hope the rookie we just took becomes one of those.  

Becton being a big whiff was rough and created a bit of a domino effect in terms of how it impacted this year’s draft.  Hopefully AVT can stay healthy.

[Claymation]

1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Probably not but we only get Tyron for this year and maybe next, if we’re lucky.  Then we’ll need to try to draft our own Sewell/Wirfs.  And also hope the rookie we just took becomes one.  

Becton being a big whiff was rough.  Hopefully AVT can stay healthy.

Hopefully the Jets did with Olu. 

[JiFtheOracle]

Tristan Wirffs transition LT wasnt exactly stellar.  He's good but personally, he's a bit overrated and hasnt been as good since Brady left, which is very common for OLmen.  It stings for Jets fans because he's so much better than Becton but to be making that money?  Wild.

The real miss was Sewell who looks like he's going to have a HOF career.

While I would have taken a different approach, I like what the Jets did at LT this year.  And it's great seeing a future HOF'er, taking time on his rest days to help develop Olu.  The Jets have made a lot of mistakes in terms of depth, and putting people in positions where they have to play immediately and it often times backfires, it seems like they're realized that and did a better job of creating depth/pipelines. 

[#27TheDominator]

19 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Tristan Wirffs transition LT wasnt exactly stellar.  He's good but personally, he's a bit overrated and hasnt been as good since Brady left, which is very common for OLmen.  It stings for Jets fans because he's so much better than Becton but to be making that money?  Wild.

The real miss was Sewell who looks like he's going to have a HOF career.

While I would have taken a different approach, I like what the Jets did at LT this year.  And it's great seeing a future HOF'er, taking time on his rest days to help develop Olu.  The Jets have made a lot of mistakes in terms of depth, and putting people in positions where they have to play immediately and it often times backfires, it seems like they're realized that and did a better job of creating depth/pipelines. 

Funny you look at those two as the "miss."  What about Darrisaw?  He was the main pick they traded for AVT.  The Jets traded two 3rds to move up for a guard when a high level tackle was sitting at their original slot.  The Vikings didn't do much with those picks (Mond and Gabe Davis) but they could have had Nico Collins, Davis Mills. Ben Cleveland.  Maybe they could have taken Chazz Surratt and we would all love him as a good pick rather than a scrap heap pick up that we always think we are going to cut.  

[Doggin94it]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Per Schefter.

New highest-paid OL’s in per-year average:

🏈Tristan Wirfs: $28.126M
🏈Penei Sewell: $28M
🏈Christian Darrisaw: $26M
🏈Laremy Tunsil: $25M
🏈Andrew Thomas: $23.5M
 

 

Oof.  Which one is your favorite that that the Jets missed out on?

 @bitonti do your thing.  
 

(PS I’m very excited about the upcoming season - just can’t help myself when this stuff pops up!)

You didn't even bold Darrisaw (the player the Vikes picked at the spot we traded up from for AVT)

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Funny you look at those two as the "miss."  What about Darrisaw?  He was the main pick they traded for AVT.  The Jets traded two 3rds to move up for a guard when a high level tackle was sitting at their original slot.  The Vikings didn't do much with those picks (Mond and Gabe Davis) but they could have had Nico Collins, Davis Mills. Ben Cleveland.  Maybe they could have taken Chazz Surratt and we would all love him as a good pick rather than a scrap heap pick up that we always think we are going to cut.  

 

1 minute ago, Doggin94it said:

You didn't even bold Darrisaw (the player the Vikes picked at the spot we traded up from for AVT)

 

Totally forgot about him, lol.

Yuck.

 

[#27TheDominator]

4 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Funny you look at those two as the "miss."  What about Darrisaw?  He was the main pick they traded for AVT.  The Jets traded two 3rds to move up for a guard when a high level tackle was sitting at their original slot.  The Vikings didn't do much with those picks (Mond and Gabe Davis) but they could have had Nico Collins, Davis Mills. Ben Cleveland.  Maybe they could have taken Chazz Surratt and we would all love him as a good pick rather than a scrap heap pick up that we always think we are going to cut.  

 

2 minutes ago, Doggin94it said:

You didn't even bold Darrisaw (the player the Vikes picked at the spot we traded up from for AVT)

Jinx

[JiFtheOracle]

7 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

Funny you look at those two as the "miss."  What about Darrisaw?  He was the main pick they traded for AVT.  The Jets traded two 3rds to move up for a guard when a high level tackle was sitting at their original slot.  The Vikings didn't do much with those picks (Mond and Gabe Davis) but they could have had Nico Collins, Davis Mills. Ben Cleveland.  Maybe they could have taken Chazz Surratt and we would all love him as a good pick rather than a scrap heap pick up that we always think we are going to cut.  

Yeah good point, maybe because Wilson was such an epic bust before a very obvious guaranteed stud in Sewell and because Wirffs was directly after Becton they are more obvious but your bring up a good point.  I dont really have a retort, other than Becton did have a good rookie campaign, so maybe they were hopeful at that point they had fixed the LT position and wanted to focus on the interior...but then that would also excuse away passing on Sewell.   idk its probably just as simple as Joe Douglas suck at drafting,

[#27TheDominator]

3 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Yeah good point, maybe because Wilson was such an epic bust before a very obvious guaranteed stud in Sewell and because Wirffs was directly after Becton they are more obvious but your bring up a good point.  I dont really have a retort, other than Becton did have a good rookie campaign, so maybe they were hopeful at that point they had fixed the LT position and wanted to focus on the interior...but then that would also excuse away passing on Sewell.   idk its probably just as simple as Joe Douglas suck at drafting,

I thought we wanted Chase or Pitts?  

I think they loved AVT because they were obsessed with versatility.  The fact he could play all over was a big point for them.  In a way they were right since they have had to play him all over, but I guess he can get hurt anywhere along the line!

[mrcoops]

Becton over Wirfs was a head-scratcher at the time, and it looks even worse in hindsight.

[bitonti]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

🏈Penei Sewell: $28M

 @bitonti do your thing.  

remember when people said Penei Sewell and Jamarr Chase were soft because they opted out of the covid year? 

not a tough guy like Zach Wilson 

 

[The Crusher]

18 minutes ago, bitonti said:

remember when people said Penei Sewell and Jamarr Chase were soft because they opted out of the covid year? 

not a tough guy like Zach Wilson 

 

Wow, that was a hot knife through butter if I ever saw one. 

[chirorob]

3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Per Schefter.

New highest-paid OL’s in per-year average:

🏈Tristan Wirfs: $28.126M
🏈Penei Sewell: $28M
🏈Christian Darrisaw: $26M
🏈Laremy Tunsil: $25M
🏈Andrew Thomas: $23.5M
 

That's why you don't trade up for a guard.  Jets gave up two 3rd rounders to move up and get a guard (less valuable than a tackle) and the tackle has had a better career to this point. 

[CTJetsFan]

11 minutes ago, chirorob said:

That's why you don't trade up for a guard.  Jets gave up two 3rd rounders to move up and get a guard (less valuable than a tackle) and the tackle has had a better career to this point. 

To be fair, AVT was a bit of a unicorn in that he had also started at OT at USC and played very well.

[nycdan]

22 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said:

To be fair, AVT was a bit of a unicorn in that he had also started at OT at USC and played very well.

I believe that without the injuries, AVT is every bit as valuable as Darrisaw was.  He wasn't injury prone before the NFL.  Sometimes you just get the pointy end of the stick.

[varjet]

• We not miss out on Andrew Thomas or Laremy Tunsil.
• The other three would have been nice on rookie deals.  The Jets don’t have that much cap space and are not paying an OL $25mm+.  JD appears to have gotten good value on the OL. 
• But picking the guys they picked, and not Darrisaw, Wirfs or Sewell, will go down as colossal scouting errors.  But even if we extent AVT and he plays well, his AAV will be in the high teens.
• I don’t know how the Jets are going to pay for all of these guys.  

[UntouchableCrew]

I still think Wirfs is a bit overrated and I'm not sure he's the "franchise LT" that he was on the right side but certainly we're far enough along that we can acknowledge Becton over Wirfs was a massive mistake.

Sewell is an absolute stud and is on a robust list (including Jamar Chase, Micah Parsons, Patrick Surtain and Rasahawn Slater) that we could have had instead of Zach, the worst QB pick in the 21st century.

[UntouchableCrew]

11 minutes ago, varjet said:

• But picking the guys they picked, and not Darrisaw, Wirfs or Sewell, will go down as colossal scouting errors.  But even if we extent AVT and he plays well, his AAV will be in the high teens. 

This is also true -- love AVT (when healthy) but clearly a worse pick than standing pat and taking Darrisaw with additional assets.

[varjet]

34 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

This is also true -- love AVT (when healthy) but clearly a worse pick than standing pat and taking Darrisaw with additional assets.

I don't know what the deal with Darrisaw was, but LT is a premium position.  Scouts should have these guys identified.  

[Bobby816]

Shouldve drafted both of them.

[Sperm Edwards]

5 minutes ago, varjet said:

I don't know what the deal with Darrisaw was, but LT is a premium position.  Scouts should have these guys identified.  

It was an OL-rich draft. 

If you want to feel better about the AVT pick, if unable to trade up, instead of Darrisaw Douglas may have drafted Elijah Moore in their original slot. 

OK it's possible that might not make you feel any better.

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I still think Wirfs is a bit overrated and I'm not sure he's the "franchise LT" that he was on the right side but certainly we're far enough along that we can acknowledge Becton over Wirfs was a massive mistake.

Sewell is an absolute stud and is on a robust list (including Jamar Chase, Micah Parsons, Patrick Surtain and Rasahawn Slater) that we could have had instead of Zach, the worst QB pick in the 21st century.

He is.  What is funny is the next player taken may be the 2nd worst QB pick in the 21st century.

Also, the 49ers tried to trade up for Zach, and then did trade up for Trey Lance, who is currently having a brutal camp for the Cowboys.  (Not making an excuse for JD, that is 100% on him for making the pick)

[JetPotato]

And no QB is paid more than Jordan Love. 

[UntouchableCrew]

23 minutes ago, chirorob said:

He is.  What is funny is the next player taken may be the 2nd worst QB pick in the 21st century.

Also, the 49ers tried to trade up for Zach, and then did trade up for Trey Lance, who is currently having a brutal camp for the Cowboys.  (Not making an excuse for JD, that is 100% on him for making the pick)

There's an element of group think and while I personally wanted Fields, none of the QBs in that class worked out. I don't even think Trevor Lawrence is that good.

But yeah, both Wilson and Lance are all time QB busts. Just guys who could not play at all taken 2nd and 3rd in a loaded draft.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, varjet said:

• We not miss out on Andrew Thomas or Laremy Tunsil.

Ok?  Re-Read the thread title and the guys I bolded, dude.  lol.

[Jetsplayer21]

6 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Olu Fashanu'$ next contract going up!

If Joe and Saleh are still here when he hits FA, you know signing the D guys will come first ha 

[AFJF]

I think it's about time Joe Douglas start picking his players 2-3 years after the year they come out.  Picking winners is much easier that way.

[CanadaSteve]

6 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Probably not but we only get Tyron for this year and maybe next, if we’re lucky.  Then we’ll eventually need to try to draft our own Sewell/Wirfs to replace him.  And also hope the rookie we just took becomes one of those.  

Becton being a big whiff was rough and created a bit of a domino effect in terms of how it impacted this year’s draft.  Hopefully AVT can stay healthy.

Yup.  THAT is how the game works.  Imagine had we of drafted Darrisaw instead of AVT?  Is he better?  Maybe so, maybe not.  We can't tell, given how much AVT has been hurt (probably because he was asked to do too much).  But I wouldn't want that price tag with having to pay some of the guys we do have to pay.  You have to pick about 4-5 guys you are willing to pay, and then settle for the rest.  Just like everything else in this backwards world, we pay 4-5 guys bucket loads of cash, while the other 45-50 players on the team get a fraction compared.  Pretty soon, Mahomes will be making half the salary cap of the KC Chiefs, and they will need LOTS of draft picks (including UDFA'S) to make it work.  If Mahomes is that good, he might be able to carry that many JAG's.  Too bad the league has become that. Just like everything else!

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

There's an element of group think and while I personally wanted Fields, none of the QBs in that class worked out. I don't even think Trevor Lawrence is that good.

But yeah, both Wilson and Lance are all time QB busts. Just guys who could not play at all taken 2nd and 3rd in a loaded draft.

That year, I was team "Trade Down and roll with Darnold".  To be fair, I am always team Trade Down, and I also wanted Josh Rosen, and was convinced Josh Allen was inaccurate in college, and would be inaccurate as a pro.

Trevor is dead average.   Not Andrew Luck or John Elway. Next time I here "Generational" I'm gonna puke just a bit. 

It'll be interesting in a few years to see who from this class is actually good, and who is a bust. 

[Beerfish]

Joe Douglas is a genius!  Other than drafting QBs and the oline the two most important positions on a team.

Go Joe Go!