Roster Management

[OilfieldJet]

We have more than 3 weeks and 3 pre-season games before getting to 53 players, but I’m seeing we may have some difficult decisions - a good thing. Are we keeping 3 QBs on the active roster and 4 RBs? Did we keep 4 RBs last year? There are some interesting early results at WR - Mr. Gipson needs to get on the field as Brownlee, Taylor and El-Zayet are looking good, not to mention Lazarus, er Lazard. How many TEs?

@Sarge4Tide I look forward to your projections.

[BCJet]

Yep, for really the first time we are going to be forced to let go of some good players.

QB - I really wish we would just IR Jordan Travis and find someone like Heinicke or another veteran to be the 3rd QB.  The roster is too good to have such an injury prone backup in Tyrod.  We need someone to go .500 if Rogers misses 4-6 games.

RB - Izzy isnt good enough to make our team but I cant see us keeping only 3 without a FB so maybe he makes it or is on the PS.

OL - We have some decent OG and OT options who have at least played in regular season games before but we need to address center.  Bringing back McGovern would be a fine option IMO as he was willing to play for very little money last year and at least is a veteran.

LB - Ulbrich really needs to be commended for his ability to develop LBs.  Quincy is a borderline all-pro who was a waiver pickup. Sherwood looks great and both Barnes and Surratt have made strides.  Unfortunately they way Mosley restructured I dont know how he isnt on the team in 2025 so we likely lose Sherwood which means we need to keep Barnes and Surratt so they can be the backups in 2025.

CB - JCB, Echols and Stiggers are all playing well in backup roles and all deserve to make the team with Reed, Sauce and Carter.  If we have to start paying guys like Breece and Garrett next year then we may have to replace Reed and Carter with Stiggers and one of these other guys.

[32EBoozer]

38 minutes ago, BCJet said:

Quincy is a borderline all-pro who was a waiver pickup.

Not borderline at all!

[Bronx]

40 minutes ago, BCJet said:

Bringing back McGovern

Great post! What about T-I-P-P-Y @Joe W. Namath?

[JKlecko]

3 hours ago, BCJet said:

Yep, for really the first time we are going to be forced to let go of some good players.

QB - I really wish we would just IR Jordan Travis and find someone like Heinicke or another veteran to be the 3rd QB.  The roster is too good to have such an injury prone backup in Tyrod.  We need someone to go .500 if Rogers misses 4-6 games.

RB - Izzy isnt good enough to make our team but I cant see us keeping only 3 without a FB so maybe he makes it or is on the PS.

OL - We have some decent OG and OT options who have at least played in regular season games before but we need to address center.  Bringing back McGovern would be a fine option IMO as he was willing to play for very little money last year and at least is a veteran.

LB - Ulbrich really needs to be commended for his ability to develop LBs.  Quincy is a borderline all-pro who was a waiver pickup. Sherwood looks great and both Barnes and Surratt have made strides.  Unfortunately they way Mosley restructured I dont know how he isnt on the team in 2025 so we likely lose Sherwood which means we need to keep Barnes and Surratt so they can be the backups in 2025.

CB - JCB, Echols and Stiggers are all playing well in backup roles and all deserve to make the team with Reed, Sauce and Carter.  If we have to start paying guys like Breece and Garrett next year then we may have to replace Reed and Carter with Stiggers and one of these other guys.

It isn't the first time ever that the Jets have had to let go of some good players, but it's the first time in a while.  They could lose good young players/prospects at LB, DL, and WR.

At QB, I'm intrigued by Peasley.  He has a good enough arm, is pretty accurate, is pretty poised, looks to be pretty good in reading Ds, stays in the pocket and delivers the ball even if he has to take a hit, but is also mobile and can pick up yards with his feet.  It remains to be seen how he develops and how Travis looks when he becomes healthy, but Peasley could conceivably develop into the Jets future backup QB.

RB - For a while I thought that the Jets could keep 4 RBs.  I was rooting for both Izzy and Cohen, but Izzy just hasn't shown much at all, and sadly Cohen retired.  I'd be surprised if they keep 4 RBs.  I think they could keep an extra DL, LB, WR, S or TE.  Maybe they keep Firkser as a hybird HB/FB.

OL - I vote a resounding no on McGovern. It doesn't matter that he's cheap.  He's given up too many sack, pressures and hits over the last 2 seasons.  He was the worst center in the NFL last year statistically, yet it was one of his better years until Tippman took over.  Hopefully, someone pretty good will be a camp cut or the Jets will sign Dalton Risner.

LB - I agree on Ulbrich and the LBs.  One correction:  Quincy made All Pro in 2023.  I don't want to lose any of Sherwood, Barnes or Surratt.  IMO it will be poor roster management if the Jets do. They have already been talking about signing one of the Niners' Safeties in FA next year.  They need to be more focused on keeping their own players.  If they let MC II walk so he can sign that Niners S or some other outside player, JD should be fired.

CB - I think Reed is a definite goner after this season.  Saleh has already said that they think that Stiggers is an NFL corner, they just have to see if he's a starter.  JCB has looked great.  Echols is a FA also, and between his penalties and off-field issues, the Jets could decide to let him walk.  I can see the 2025 starting CBs as Sauce, Stiggers and MC II with JCB as the top backup CB.

[The Crusher]

14 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Not borderline at all!

That dude maximized his opportunity to play. Wow!  

[ARodJetsFan]

15 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

Not borderline at all!

I'll be the first one to admit it, when the Jets extended Quincy Williams last year, I really thought it was just an attempt at appeasing his brother Quinnen, who was also in line for an extension.

Obviously, I was wrong because Quincy Williams exceeded my wildest expectations for him last season.

I had no idea, he would play like the dominant, sideline to sideline LB'er that he turned out to be.

The man played at a very high-level the entire season.

[slats]

I expect the Jets to carry just two QBs on the 53, with Travis on IR and probably Peasley on the practice squad. 
 
I don’t expect to see Breece in the preseason at all, and Allen may only get minimum run, too, leaving a lot of reps for Davis, Izzy, and Valladay. The new KOR rules may lean towards them carrying Bawden. 
 
At the IOL backup spot, I’d look for a mini-draft pickup. I just think there’s probably a better backup center on someone else’s 90 man roster right now than McGovern. 
 
WR is another position where the mini-draft could potentially provide some depth. There’s no reason to be married to their selection of UDFAs at the position if an attractive receiver hits the market. 
 
At LB, again, the KOR rules could easily come into play, and despite the fact that there are only really two starting LB positions, they could carry the extra LBs for specials. This is a position where I could see JD trying to get a draft pick for a player he intends to cut. 
 
The DL is also extremely deep even without their presumed starting edge reporting to training camp. The Jets will make cuts there who wind up having roles on other teams. 

[OilfieldJet]

I was thinking we may keep just 2 QBs and 3 RBs in order to retain talent at other positions.

[ARodJetsFan]

1 hour ago, OilfieldJet said:

I was thinking we may keep just 2 QBs and 3 RBs in order to retain talent at other positions.

I'd be very surprised if we only kept 2 QB's.

[32EBoozer]

10 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I'll be the first one to admit it, when the Jets extended Quincy Williams last year, I really thought it was just an attempt at appeasing his brother Quinnen, who was also in line for an extension.

Obviously, I was wrong because Quincy Williams exceeded my wildest expectations for him last season.

I had no idea, he would play like the dominant, sideline to sideline LB'er that he turned out to be.

The man played at a very high-level the entire season.

His contract is an absolute steal!

[32EBoozer]

11 hours ago, The Crusher said:

That dude maximized his opportunity to play. Wow!  

 

JD made a great deal there!

[Claymation]

McGovern sucks!

[FootballLove]

23 hours ago, JKlecko said:

CB - I think Reed is a definite goner after this season.  Saleh has already said that they think that Stiggers is an NFL corner, they just have to see if he's a starter.  JCB has looked great.  Echols is a FA also, and between his penalties and off-field issues, the Jets could decide to let him walk.  I can see the 2025 starting CBs as Sauce, Stiggers and MC II with JCB as the top backup CB.

That would suck, but you could be right. Sauce is going to demand to be paid the highest non-QB salary, or at LEAST the highest DB salary. $30-$35 million per year. Thats gonna put the squeeze on our DB-salary. MC is the best slot DB, so I'd like to see JoeD find a way to keep both MC and Sauce, which probably puts Reed as the odd man out, just for salary cap. Hopefully we can trade him, or at least get a great comp pick for him. Either way, our back end is gonna take a hit.

[Joe W. Namath]

I love the way this team is constructed.  I would not change a thing.

If Jordan Travis take 1 snap in a live enviornment this year everyone should be fired.

[ARodJetsFan]

14 hours ago, 32EBoozer said:

His contract is an absolute steal!

Assuming he has another great season, I just hope he (Quincy Williams) doesn't go all "Haasan Reddick" on us next off-season. 😯

[#27TheDominator]

On 8/5/2024 at 9:10 AM, slats said:

I expect the Jets to carry just two QBs on the 53, with Travis on IR and probably Peasley on the practice squad. 
 
I don’t expect to see Breece in the preseason at all, and Allen may only get minimum run, too, leaving a lot of reps for Davis, Izzy, and Valladay. The new KOR rules may lean towards them carrying Bawden. 
 
At the IOL backup spot, I’d look for a mini-draft pickup. I just think there’s probably a better backup center on someone else’s 90 man roster right now than McGovern. 
 
WR is another position where the mini-draft could potentially provide some depth. There’s no reason to be married to their selection of UDFAs at the position if an attractive receiver hits the market. 
 
At LB, again, the KOR rules could easily come into play, and despite the fact that there are only really two starting LB positions, they could carry the extra LBs for specials. This is a position where I could see JD trying to get a draft pick for a player he intends to cut. 
 
The DL is also extremely deep even without their presumed starting edge reporting to training camp. The Jets will make cuts there who wind up having roles on other teams. 

I think Bawden is gone.   At least for now.  They activated him from the PUP and immediately cut him for Firkser the TE from Harvard that did well with the Titans.  I thought they would bring him back when Cohen retired, but they signed 2 WRs Isaiah Winstead, and Brandon Smith and a corner Tre Swilling - waiving WR/KR Marcus Riley and Foelsch the UDFA TE from New Haven who the Eagles picked up.

What do you have against Schweitzer?  He is the IOL that can snap and he seemed fine last year until he got hurt.  I'm sure they will monkey around with mini-draft guys, but they have quite a few from last year to ride that bubble.  If any are any good they should know.

I think they carry 4 RB again.  They probably have 5 they'd be worried about getting poached and they carried 4 most of last year.  I think guys like Jalyn Holmes will certainly get cut, but they will be happy enough using him in the rotation.  He is just a guy they are less likely to lose during mini-draft season before they start putzing around with IR moves and such.  That is why Car-cootchie Smart always does the practice squad dance. I think they love Surratt and Sherwood, but guys like Eguoven and McCrary-Ball are serious special teamers that will get practice squad call ups for that purpose.

[ARodJetsFan]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:10 AM, slats said:

I expect the Jets to carry just two QBs on the 53, with Travis on IR and probably Peasley on the practice squad. 
 

I'd be very surprised if we only kept 2 QB's on the active roster, for a couple of different reasons.

I agree that J. Travis will probably go on IR for a red-shirt rookie season (as he should) but I don't think putting Peasley on the practice squad is worth the risk of losing him, to another QB needy team.

That being said, I'll now address the elephant in the room, that nobody else is acknowledging.

With Rodgers season-ending injury last year & Taylor's well-documented history of getting dinged up, it would be very foolish not to carry a 3rd QB on the active roster.

We all want to hope for the best, but you have to plan for the worst.

[slats]

4 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I'd be very surprised if we only kept 2 QB's on the active roster, for a couple of different reasons.

I agree that J. Travis will probably go on IR for a red-shirt rookie season (as he should) but I don't think putting Peasley on the practice squad is worth the risk of losing him, to another QB needy team.

That being said, I'll now address the elephant in the room, that nobody else is acknowledging.

With Rodgers season-ending injury last year & Taylor's well-documented history of getting dinged up, it would be very foolish not to carry a 3rd QB on the active roster.

We all want to hope for the best, but you have to plan for the worst.

I’ll be shocked if they carry three QBs. IMHO, it’s a waste of a roster spot. I really don’t even care about the #2 QB all that much. This season is largely going to go how Aaron Rodgers goes. If we get to Taylor for an extended period of time, we’re ****ed. If we get to QB3, we’re royally ****ed. No one is snatching up Peasley, just like the Jets are highly unlikely to grab any of the other #3 QBs around the league who’ll mostly find themselves cut when that fateful cut down day comes. 

[ARodJetsFan]

2 minutes ago, slats said:

I’ll be shocked if they carry three QBs. IMHO, it’s a waste of a roster spot. I really don’t even care about the #2 QB all that much. This season is largely going to go how Aaron Rodgers goes. If we get to Taylor for an extended period of time, we’re ****ed. If we get to QB3, we’re royally ****ed. No one is snatching up Peasley, just like the Jets are highly unlikely to grab any of the other #3 QBs around the league who’ll mostly find themselves cut when that fateful cut down day comes. 

What I bolded above is a given.

I still think we'll carry 3 QBs.

[slats]

7 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

What I bolded above is a given.

I still think we'll carry 3 QBs.

If I were the sort of person who placed bets, I’d bet you here. Because the only things I’d consider betting on would be things I saw as pretty much sure things, and the Jets carrying just two QBs on the 53 is exactly that - pretty much a sure thing. 
 
They entered last year with just Rodgers and Zach, the following week they promoted Boyle and those were the only two QBs on the roster until they’d finally had enough and elevated Siemian from the practice squad sometime in October. That roster spot has more value as depth for a player that can potentially help Aaron Rodgers win than as his second backup. They won’t carry a third QB as long as Rodgers and/or Taylor is healthy and playing well. 

[ARodJetsFan]

23 hours ago, slats said:

If I were the sort of person who placed bets, I’d bet you here. Because the only things I’d consider betting on would be things I saw as pretty much sure things, and the Jets carrying just two QBs on the 53 is exactly that - pretty much a sure thing. 
 

We shall see.

I'm not so convinced.