Who Stood out in Jets 20-17 win Over Commanders?

[JetNation]

The Jets topped the Washington Commanders 20-17 on a late field goal from Austin Seibert in their preseason opener.  Virtually all of Gang Green’s offensive starters were on the bench with the exception of center Joe Tippmann.

And the good news for the Jets is not only the victory, but the fact that young players made plays on both sides of the ball.

Who impressed?

CB Jarrick Bernard-Converse: The college cornerback turned safety is now an NFL safety turned cornerback and he did not disappoint.  Bernard-Converse gave up a big catch early on but had perfect coverage on Dyami Brown who hauled in a one-handed catch on a perfectly thrown ball.  The corner was tested throughout his time on the field and locked down his man consistently.

RB Braelon Allen: Allen was as good as advertised, showing off his ability to put his foot in the ground and power up the gut for chunk plays.  Allen averaged nine yards per carry as he ran for 54 yards on six carries.

DT Leonard Taylor III: One of the biggest head-scratchers in this year’s draft was Taylor going undrafted.  The immensely talented linemen landed at 1 Jets Drive and made a couple of splash plays.  A big tackle for loss that was followed by a sack later in the game.

QB Andrew Peasley: Peasley threw the Jets only touchdown pass on a beautiful touch pass to second-year receiver Jason Brownlee.  Peasley showed good poise and accuracy in his pro debut.

QB Adrian Martinez: Not only did Martinez show off his trademark mobility, running for 24 yards on 2 carries, but he also threw  for 104 yards on 6 of 10 passing.  The competition for the team’s third QB spot is officially on.

C Joe Tippmann: Thank goodness for small miracles.  Tippmann got the start to work on his recent issues with snapping the football and didn’t have any sail over the quarterback’s head.

WR Malachi Corley: Corley made an impressive heads up play in snagging a dropped pass from Zach Kuntz just inches above the ground and proceeded to pick up the first down.

Edge Eric Watts: Another undrafted free agent in the trenches, Watts got a big bonus from the Jets and has been flashing ever since rookie camp.  He picked up a sack late in the game and showed a good first step.

DE Michael Clemons: Clemons had a good but not great day.  He appeared to be the defender responsible for the Redskins first TD run but was also a key factor in multiple stops and showed a good bull rush.

LB Chazz Surratt: Surratt picked up where he left off last preseason when head coach Robert Saleh became a huge fan.  He tied Tanzel Smart for a team high seven combined tackles.

WR Brandon Smith: A guy who arrived with little fanfare in recent weeks, the former UFL prodcut caught 2 passes for 70 yards.  He made the best catch of the day on a deep diving grab from Martinez.  Later on he caught another deep ball from Martinez with a DB hot on his tail.

 

 

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[Gaffneycatch81]

I have no idea if he has the athleticism or route running ability to get open against starting caliber DBs, but I was really impressed with Brandon Smith’s ball skills. Dude had some really nice catches.

[Barry McCockinner]

Thanks for this, I wasn't able to watch 

[Drums]

Great play by Corley with Kuntz to show some playmaking skills as well as the kick return where he got a nice gain. I guess I was expecting him to already be ready to replace Gibson on the WR depth chart but I don’t think so quite yet. 

[Trotter]

Jd has had his misses with two of them being first rounders but the guy has rebuilt this roster with depth at every position and when cuts come, those let go will be picked up quickly by other teams

he catches a lot of sh_t around here but really has done a very good job

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

6 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Jd has had his misses with two of them being first rounders but the guy has rebuilt this roster with depth at every position and when cuts come, those let go will be picked up quickly by other teams

he catches a lot of sh_t around here but really has done a very good job

He’s gotten better

2020 draft:  F-

- only Ashtyn Davis remains

2021 draft:  D 

- huge miss at #2 even if no franchise QBs other than an overpaid TL have emerged

- traded TWO 3rd rounders to move up for a run blocking Guard?!?!  Injuries have made this a poor investment and AVT has to prove he can (1) stay healthy and (2) pass block at a higher level 

- Carter II is a stud and Sherwood/Echols remain quality depth, maybe even more in the case of Sherwood

2022 draft:  A+

- 3 grand slams (Sauce, Garrett, Breece)

- A solid extra base hit w/ JJ.  Time will tell how big a hit

- Big year 3 opportunities for Ruckert, Clemons, and Mitchell (now healthy)

- Undrafted Tony Adams = ‘icing on the cake’

2023 draft:  TBD (but lots of promise)

- Like the pick or not, McDonald looks poised for a break-out after a strong finish to his rookie year

- Tippmann looks like our next high level Center (assumimg snaps are under control)

- Warren (RT) & JBC (CB) could have legit opportunities to start in 2025; Barnes (LB) in 2026

2024 draft:  TBD (obviously)

- Way too early but some positive vibes on mid to late rounders in Allen, Davis, and Stiggers.  All 3 might be instant contributors while the Jets work in Fashanu and Corley at a slower pace

- Love the extra 3rd rounder in 2025

[Joe W. Namath]

1 hour ago, Trotter said:

Jd has had his misses with two of them being first rounders but the guy has rebuilt this roster with depth at every position and when cuts come, those let go will be picked up quickly by other teams

he catches a lot of sh_t around here but really has done a very good job

Best, young gm in the league who will get a monster extension very soon.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

3 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Best, young gm in the league who will get a monster extension very soon.

The main reasons the wins haven’t come are drafting Zach AND making him the primary backup last year as a contingency to injury risk that ultimately was realized 4 plays in.  Bad planning meets bad luck.

Quite frankly, JD and the entire leadership team screwed up so massively last year that it would have been fair to have fired all of them.  ‘All eggs in an aging Rodgers basket without any vision to adjust (until once again it was too late).’

We’re a full year behind schedule making the playoffs assuming a 3 year rebuild starting with JD’s first FA/draft cycle in 2020.  You need tools to rebuild so it really isn’t fair to start with the June 2109 date he was hired.  Both prime FA and the DRAFT were over.

As a registered independent, I don’t think it’s fair to overlook the multiple critical failures of this regime.

On the other end, smh when I read it’s year 6.  This is year 4 of a complete rebuild (Gase, Darnold, rookie QB, talent deprived roster, bad salary cap situation).  1 year behind a reasonable and realistic schedule.  

JD has done enough to get one last shot.  Saleh gets that same shot because of the QB situation.

Lets see what happens this year before anointing JD anything, let alone extending him :).

[Claymation]

2 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

He’s gotten better

2020 draft:  F-

- only Ashtyn Davis remains

2021 draft:  D 

- huge miss at #2 even if no franchise QBs other than an overpaid TL have emerged

- traded TWO 3rd rounders to move up for a run blocking Guard?!?!  Injuries have made this a poor investment and AVT has to prove he can (1) stay healthy and (2) pass block at a higher level 

- Carter II is a stud and Sherwood/Echols remain quality depth, maybe even more in the case of Sherwood

2022 draft:  A+

- 3 grand slams (Sauce, Garrett, Breece)

- A solid extra base hit w/ JJ.  Time will tell how big a hit

- Big year 3 opportunities for Ruckert, Clemons, and Mitchell (now healthy)

- Undrafted Tony Adams = ‘icing on the cake’

2023 draft:  TBD (but lots of promise)

- Like the pick or not, McDonald looks poised for a break-out after a strong finish to his rookie year

- Tippmann looks like our next high level Center (assumimg snaps are under control)

- Warren (RT) & JBC (CB) could have legit opportunities to start in 2025; Barnes (LB) in 2026

2024 draft:  TBD (obviously)

- Way too early but some positive vibes on mid to late rounders in Allen, Davis, and Stiggers.  All 3 might be instant contributors while the Jets work in Fashanu and Corley at a slower pace

- Love the extra 3rd rounder in 2025

What about the team’s UDFA which are part of the draft process?

[Jimmy 2 Times]

I stood out.  My optimism and witty banter in the game thread sealed the victory. 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

1 hour ago, Claymation said:

What about the team’s UDFA which are part of the draft process?

Mentioned Tony Adams as a hit.  The guy is about an average starting safety, not too shabby for an undrafted CB out of Illinois.  

Would need to see more from Gipson and Brownlee before forming an opinion about them becoming hits.  Gipson obviously needs to improve ball security but has some promise after the catch.  Brownlee needs to move up the depth chart to even make the active roster.  

Huff is the big overall hit from the 2020 draft  as an UDFA but it wouldn’t change my overall draft grade.  Or maybe the F- becomes an F ;).  I’m not sure JD or RS even appreciated what they had until midway thru Huff’s 3rd season.

Did I miss anyone?  

[doitny]

16 minutes ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Mentioned Tony Adams as a hit.  The guy is about an average starting safety, not too shabby for an undrafted CB out of Illinois.  

Would need to see more from Gipson and Brownlee before forming an opinion about them becoming hits.  Gipson obviously needs to improve ball security but has some promise after the catch.  Brownlee needs to move up the depth chart to even make the active roster.  

Huff is the big overall hit from the 2020 draft  as an UDFA but it wouldn’t change my overall draft grade.  Or maybe the F- becomes an F ;).  I’m not sure JD or RS even appreciated what they had until midway thru Huff’s 3rd season.

Did I miss anyone?  

cant forget finding Quincy Williams on the Jax P.S

got to give Saleh alot of credit for him too for developing him. guy couldnt even make the Jax team and now he is one of the top 5 LBs in the league.

[Death2NE]

Jd has had his misses with two of them being first rounders but the guy has rebuilt this roster with depth at every position and when cuts come, those let go will be picked up quickly by other teams
he catches a lot of sh_t around here but really has done a very good job

One of the gambling podcasts said last season season that the jets had the most players cut at the deadline to be picked up by other teams , 6-7 maybe? I suspect that to be true again. For all the crap Saleh takes (rightfully so) we develop more d talent over a 2-3 year process than in my lifetime . It’s something that’s always mentioned in the 2-3 development window on late round and udfa but until this regime I thought it was a myth because we NEVER did that .

As for Douglas , I get the wins haven’t been there but there’s an obvious reason why. This roster has gotten deeper and deeper every year under him and calls for his job are ludicrous . Today I watched 3 dlineman all undrafted come in and look legit promising . I wished he was scouting the ufl and clearly he was we have 4 ufl players right now and 3 that I said I wanted in a thread from a couple of months ago … hopefully Rodgers lasts 2 seasons and between Jenkins , Peasley , Martinez , whoever , we can start a new packers-like tradition of having the future ready to roll as soon as the past retires




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[HawkeyeJet]

As sports fans, we all have guys who we probably love more than their production warrants.  Brandon Smith is near the top of that list of Iowa Hawkeyes for me.  He did’t put up big numbers, and a lot of that is the system.  He’s not super athletic, but he’s big and strong and tough.  He always seemed to make a big play when needed.  That’s why I loved him so much.  Today was like going back in time to Iowa.  2 catches for 70 yards and pivotal in the outcome of the game.

He is a long shot to make the team but I’m pulling for him.

[Barry McCockinner]

6 hours ago, Drums said:

Great play by Corley with Kuntz to show some playmaking skills as well as the kick return where he got a nice gain. I guess I was expecting him to already be ready to replace Gibson on the WR depth chart but I don’t think so quite yet. 

Seems like a guy who might stick on KO return and make some noise for us.

[AFJF]

5 hours ago, Claymation said:

What about the team’s UDFA which are part of the draft process?

[BornJetsFan1983]

Watched the NFL highlights from the game, on YouTube. Sure didn't make us look any good. Looked like commanders scored with not prob...not ssayijg it means anything but damn it will be nice after this Superbowl when they start making us look good in these dumb videos. Right now jets get no love

[jamesr]

Watched the NFL highlights from the game, on YouTube. Sure didn't make us look any good. Looked like commanders scored with not prob...not ssayijg it means anything but damn it will be nice after this Superbowl when they start making us look good in these dumb videos. Right now jets get no love

Opening drive was Washington's starters vs. our backups, for context.

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[AFJF]

1 hour ago, jamesr said:

Opening drive was Washington's starters vs. our backups, for context.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
 

Context?  What is this "context" you speak of?

[Claymation]

8 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Mentioned Tony Adams as a hit.  The guy is about an average starting safety, not too shabby for an undrafted CB out of Illinois.  

Would need to see more from Gipson and Brownlee before forming an opinion about them becoming hits.  Gipson obviously needs to improve ball security but has some promise after the catch.  Brownlee needs to move up the depth chart to even make the active roster.  

Huff is the big overall hit from the 2020 draft  as an UDFA but it wouldn’t change my overall draft grade.  Or maybe the F- becomes an F ;).  I’m not sure JD or RS even appreciated what they had until midway thru Huff’s 3rd season.

Did I miss anyone?  

Huff, who had the best pressure rate as a situational pass rusher the past 2 years doesn’t move the needle. The Jets resigned him as a restricted FA. How in blue blazes did they not appreciate him? 

Gipson is a slightly above league average returner. 

[TuscanyTile2]

Just now, Claymation said:

Huff, who had the best pressure rate as a situational pass rusher the past 2 years doesn’t move the needle. The Jets resigned him as a restricted FA. How in blue blazes did they not appreciate him? 

Gipson is a slightly above league average returner. 

I think the fans' perception of Gipson is based entirely on that one punt return TD against Buffalo.  If he didn't have that, would anybody even give a ish about the guy?

[Claymation]

Guys like Cager and Lamar Jackson, the other one are still playing in league.

Yeboah is still on the team. 

[Claymation]

8 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

I think the fans' perception of Gipson is based entirely on that one punt return TD against Buffalo.  If he didn't have that, would anybody even give a ish about the guy?

He averaged just under 10 yards per punt return last year. That makes him above average. 

[Jet Nut]

15 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Thanks for this, I wasn't able to watch 

It’s on right now on NFLN.

I assume It will be replayed again during the week

[TuscanyTile2]

5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

It’s on right now on NFLN.

I assume It will be replayed again during the week

Can someone summarize the replay of the game for me.  I can't bear to watch it.  

[Drums]

8 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Seems like a guy who might stick on KO return and make some noise for us.

Definitely and I can see him overtaking Gibson before season's end. I think it really depends on if Hackett and the offensive coaching staff take until the last week of the season to realize he is good at things.

[Jet Nut]

2 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Can someone summarize the replay of the game for me.  I can't bear to watch it.  

Sorry, not my job to go through the game so some SOJF can get through a game where the team played well enough

[rangerous]

15 hours ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

The main reasons the wins haven’t come are drafting Zach AND making him the primary backup last year as a contingency to injury risk that ultimately was realized 4 plays in.  Bad planning meets bad luck.

Quite frankly, JD and the entire leadership team screwed up so massively last year that it would have been fair to have fired all of them.  ‘All eggs in an aging Rodgers basket without any vision to adjust (until once again it was too late).’

We’re a full year behind schedule making the playoffs assuming a 3 year rebuild starting with JD’s first FA/draft cycle in 2020.  You need tools to rebuild so it really isn’t fair to start with the June 2109 date he was hired.  Both prime FA and the DRAFT were over.

As a registered independent, I don’t think it’s fair to overlook the multiple critical failures of this regime.

On the other end, smh when I read it’s year 6.  This is year 4 of a complete rebuild (Gase, Darnold, rookie QB, talent deprived roster, bad salary cap situation).  1 year behind a reasonable and realistic schedule.  

JD has done enough to get one last shot.  Saleh gets that same shot because of the QB situation.

Lets see what happens this year before anointing JD anything, let alone extending him :).

Saleh gets a black mark over Douglas for starting Boyle at any point last season especially since siemien was in camp for about five weeks before being used.  And saleh further gets a black mark for not knowing a thing about offense.

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

4 hours ago, Claymation said:

Huff, who had the best pressure rate as a situational pass rusher the past 2 years doesn’t move the needle. The Jets resigned him as a restricted FA. How in blue blazes did they not appreciate him? 

Gipson is a slightly above league average returner. 

They had signed Jacob Martin as a free agent before Huff’s 3rd year and then wound up trading him mid season to give reps to … wait for it … Bryce Huff.

Then they drafted Will McDonald to replace … Bruce Huff.

Where are the stats to show Gipson as above average?  He is elite at fumbling the ball.

 

[OtherwiseHappyinLife]

13 hours ago, doitny said:

cant forget finding Quincy Williams on the Jax P.S

got to give Saleh alot of credit for him too for developing him. guy couldnt even make the Jax team and now he is one of the top 5 LBs in the league.

I was really focusing on the draft process.  Quincy Williams is a stud.  The coaching staff also deserves credit for Quinnen’s rise to stardom.  
 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Sorry, not my job to go through the game so some SOJF can get through a game where the team played well enough

Lol, it was a joke.  That's what people were saying yesterday when the actual game was going on.  

[Larz]

Someone needs to step up and edit for baldy 😂. Seeing him record video on his laptop with his phone is too much 😂

but anyway looks like they have a running game 

 

 

[jamesr]

1 hour ago, OtherwiseHappyinLife said:

Where are the stats to show Gipson as above average?  He is elite at fumbling the ball.

 

His punt return average last year was 9.7 yards. That is 0.5 yards per return less than ... Braxton Berrios.   

He was 7th in total punt return yardage, more based on quantity (33 returns - 4th in the league). He also led the league in fair catches with 30.

3 fumbles. 🤢

One of only 8 players to return a punt for a TD. 

On kick returns he had 22 for 511 yards (both 2nd in the league). Just ahead of Berrios on both, but over 1 yard per return less on average. And another fumble. 🤢

So on specials, basically a cheaper but more fumble-prone version of the guy he replaced.

[Larz]

Wow.  Wow. 
 

 

[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, Larz said:

Wow.  Wow. 
 

 

Why oh why did he post this?!  Now the rest of the NFL is going to be in on this top secret trick!