How Will Reddick Situation End?

[Barry McCockinner]

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[Trotter]

Can I go other?

No idea how this happens but Raiders end up with Reddick and Zach while Jets get devante.

Raiderholic is nowhere to be found

[OilfieldJet]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

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Freudian slip?

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, Trotter said:

Can I go other?

No idea how this happens but Raiders end up with Reddick and Zach while Jets get devante.

Raiderholic is nowhere to be found

Zach?

 

[Trotter]

1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Zach?

 

3 team trade - why not?

I think there are a bunch of guys on here who would have a field day with a certain raider poster. 

[mrcoops]

Reddick turns up, mid-season, to ensure he gets an accrued season for FA purposes.

Jets and Reddick make noises about bygones being bygones, and pledging to work towards a new deal.

Reddick lines up the following Sunday, suffers a season-ending injury and is placed on IR.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, mrcoops said:

Reddick turns up, mid-season, to ensure he gets an accrued season for FA purposes.

Jets and Reddick make noises about bygones being bygones, and pledging to work towards a new deal.

Reddick lines up the following Sunday, suffers a season-ending injury and is placed on IR.

[Mr. Rogers]

I don't see any way Reddick plays on his current deal. I think he'll go out for season before he does that.

Apparently, the Jets have just been waiting for him to show up before they improve his current 1yr. I expect Reddick to eventually show up and they'll quickly iron out an improved deal using whatever cap space JFM trade freed. 

Whether that's soon, week 1, or mid season, couldn't tell ya. It's either that, or Reddick goes full idiot and holds out full season. At least the Jets can use his salary elsewhere at that point. 

[Lith]

He is not going to be traded, and he gains nothing by sitting out the season.  He will show up early in the season, we will agree to waive/reduce his fines.  He plays out the season & goes to FA.

[bicketybam]

Why in the world would the Jets ever trade him for less than what they gave up for him?? That would be insane and I would want Douglas fired immediately.

[The Crusher]

21 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

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Any but Jets caving to give him massive deal. Other than that anything is possible. 

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, bicketybam said:

Why in the world would the Jets ever trade him for less than what they gave up for him?? That would be insane and I would want Douglas fired immediately.

I don't think it will happen but the thought process would be to get rid of the headache, get something back and move on.

[The Voice of Reason]

It's obvious that it will be a compromise where both sides "win"... Nobody is going to take bad press on this 

CAA will say they won by getting more money and Jets will have won by not having to pay 25 mill apv long deal

[bicketybam]

2 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

I don't think it will happen but the thought process would be to get rid of the headache, get something back and move on.

As long as he's not in camp/reported, he's not a headache. There is no way Douglas is going to take the L on this guy. He'll force him to sit out the season before he trades him for less than what they gave up for him.

[Bronx]

 

 

[Mr. Rogers]

5 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

As long as he's not in camp/reported, he's not a headache. There is no way Douglas is going to take the L on this guy. He'll force him to sit out the season before he trades him for less than what they gave up for him.

I think there's a middle ground here.

Let him sit out half the season and accrue tons of fines. Close to the trade deadline, find an (ideally NFC) contender desperate to improve the team, dump him for as much as we can recoup, and let him keep the fines and the other team keep the headache.

Then use the open salary space to sign or trade for someone else, if McDonald and Clemons aren't cutting it. It'll still look like an L for Douglas, but less so than letting Reddick sit all season and getting nothing back.

[Doggin94it]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said:

I don't see any way Reddick plays on his current deal. I think he'll go out for season before he does that.

Apparently, the Jets have just been waiting for him to show up before they improve his current 1yr. I expect Reddick to eventually show up and they'll quickly iron out an improved deal using whatever cap space JFM trade freed. 

Whether that's soon, week 1, or mid season, couldn't tell ya. It's either that, or Reddick goes full idiot and holds out full season. At least the Jets can use his salary elsewhere at that point. 

You understand that if he doesn't show up before week 7 his contract tolls and he's not a FA next offseason, right?

[Mr. Rogers]

14 minutes ago, Lith said:

He is not going to be traded, and he gains nothing by sitting out the season.  He will show up early in the season, we will agree to waive/reduce his fines.  He plays out the season & goes to FA.

I don't remember who, but someone else here told me that the fines cannot be waived. They aren't paid directly to the Jets like that.

A renegotiated contract could potentially reimburse him for a similar amount, however. But I'm not sure that the fined salary is added back into the Jets cap space in a way where we could make it part of his new salary...

[Mr. Rogers]

1 minute ago, Doggin94it said:

You understand that if he doesn't show up before week 7 his contract tolls and he's not a FA next offseason, right?

Yes. I stand by what I said - the NFLPA will almost definitely step in if the jets just sit on his contract past this year. He will force us to deal him or cut him one way or another at that point. 

[The Voice of Reason]

1 minute ago, Mr. Rogers said:

Yes. I stand by what I said - the NFLPA will almost definitely step in if the jets just sit on his contract past this year. He will force us to deal him or cut him one way or another at that point. 

No chance.. What right do they have to force the jets to do anything

[Jetpain]

I think Redick is doing us a favor by staying away.  At least we dont have to pay him and i believe the money not paid comes off the cap.  He could F the team far worse by showing up and either refusing to play or faking an injury of some sort where the team has to start paying him for nothing in return   And he could become a locker room distraction if hes here

[#27TheDominator]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said:

Yes. I stand by what I said - the NFLPA will almost definitely step in if the jets just sit on his contract past this year. He will force us to deal him or cut him one way or another at that point. 

Based on what?  This is not like the Bridgewater situation where it tolled based on injury.  It is also not like Le'Veon Bell where he refused to sign the tag and sat out.  This is a player that signed a contract and is refusing to honor it.  I guess the NFLPA could make it slightly more ugly, but if the Jets cared that much about it getting ugly we would not be having this discussion.

[GangGreened]

If he was lied to wouldn’t he eventually pull the Jalen Ramsey card?

[peekskill68]

If the Woody rumors about dead money/clean slate for 2025 potential are true, JD hasn't got much room to negotiate.  Suspect Reddick gets maybe a small sweetener to save face, but not much more...

[Larz]

Super Bowl champs 

[Doggin94it]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said:

Yes. I stand by what I said - the NFLPA will almost definitely step in if the jets just sit on his contract past this year. He will force us to deal him or cut him one way or another at that point. 

I'm intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Anyway, how exactly do you think the NFLPA will "step in" to help a player who didn't perform on his contract and had it toll in the manner that the NFLPA agreed to in the collective bargaining agreement?

Some of you have never been in a multi-million dollar negotiation or a legal dispute and oh boy does it ever show

[Green Ghost]

23 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

As long as he's not in camp/reported, he's not a headache. There is no way Douglas is going to take the L on this guy. He'll force him to sit out the season before he trades him for less than what they gave up for him.

It would be pretty difficult to get less back than they paid for him.

A 2026 3rd is the equivalent of a 2024 6th round pick.

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, Mr. Rogers said:

I don't see any way Reddick plays on his current deal. I think he'll go out for season before he does that.

Apparently, the Jets have just been waiting for him to show up before they improve his current 1yr. I expect Reddick to eventually show up and they'll quickly iron out an improved deal using whatever cap space JFM trade freed. 

Whether that's soon, week 1, or mid season, couldn't tell ya. It's either that, or Reddick goes full idiot and holds out full season. At least the Jets can use his salary elsewhere at that point. 

What would he accomplish that way?

He'd still be locked into the Jets in 2025, yet again for $15MM with $0 guaranteed, and with one less prime playing/earning year left in his career.

[Claymation]

56 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said:

Yes. I stand by what I said - the NFLPA will almost definitely step in if the jets just sit on his contract past this year. He will force us to deal him or cut him one way or another at that point. 

Well, the NFLPA should have negotiated a better deal. They wanted the players to have no pads practice in the spring, that came at a cost.

[Warfish]

Sits out till the last possible minute to get credit for the season and his Free Agency, shows up grudgingly mostly to get paid, produces drama and sacks in somewhat equal measure, and then walks at year's end.

[Sperm Edwards]

18 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Sits out till the last possible minute to get credit for the season and his Free Agency, shows up grudgingly mostly to get paid, produces drama and sacks in somewhat equal measure, and then walks at year's end.

Could be.

Getting fined 3 regular-season game checks (on top of the missed practice fines & missed workout bonus) may make him go nuclear. Sitting out the first 6 weeks would be going nuclear, but it'd cost him about $10MM to take this stance to that end.

From the Jets' standpoint, I guess at least then he has to perform to garner the type of $$$ interest he's seeking after the season's over. If he makes any "career decisions" while getting paid, then in March that could hurt his wallet, too.

 

[JKlecko]

2 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Reddick turns up, mid-season, to ensure he gets an accrued season for FA purposes.

Jets and Reddick make noises about bygones being bygones, and pledging to work towards a new deal.

Reddick lines up the following Sunday, suffers a season-ending injury and is placed on IR.

I can totally see this happening.  Whenever he does show up, I expect him to get injured.  Players who hold out frequently, if not usually, do.

Whatver happens, I will hope for the best, but if I had my druthers, I'd wish that Reddick is traded either for a draft pick or an IOL or S.  I don't even care if the trade is perceived as a "loss" it will be addition by subtraction imo.  I don't doubt that Reddick would make the team better if he can stay healthy and play up to his previous years' production, but I don't think he will.  There's too much potential for him to be a cancer in the lockerroom if he has to play on his current deal or for him to get injured because he isn't in football shape.  I'd rather he was someone else's headache and worry.

[RedBeardedSavage]

2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

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@The Crusher I wish there was a way I could emoji-laugh-react at someone else's emoji-laugh-react.

This place is great. 

[JKlecko]

2 hours ago, Mr. Rogers said:

I don't see any way Reddick plays on his current deal. I think he'll go out for season before he does that.

Apparently, the Jets have just been waiting for him to show up before they improve his current 1yr. I expect Reddick to eventually show up and they'll quickly iron out an improved deal using whatever cap space JFM trade freed. 

Whether that's soon, week 1, or mid season, couldn't tell ya. It's either that, or Reddick goes full idiot and holds out full season. At least the Jets can use his salary elsewhere at that point. 

I'd be totally shocked if Reddick is stupid enough to sit out the entire season.  That would mean that in addition to $1 million in fines, he'd forfeit $15 million or whatever his contract calls for his salary to be this season, he'd lose a year's vestment, AND he would still be the Jets' "property" next offseason, and still be in the same place he is now.  In addition, it would guarantee that he wouldn't get the big contract he wants at 31 after sitting out a year and proving himself to be an ass and a dumbass.

The Jets have said all along that they weren't going to talk about a new deal UNTIL HE SHOWS UP and they can ascertain that his level of play hasn't fallen off overnight and that he's a good fit in the scheme.  The had said that once that had happened, they would talk about an extension during the summer.  If he had just done a "hold in" rather than a "hold out," he might have already gotten an extension or a better deal for this season with easily-reached incentives.

[JKlecko]

9 hours ago, Lith said:

He is not going to be traded, and he gains nothing by sitting out the season.  He will show up early in the season, we will agree to waive/reduce his fines.  He plays out the season & goes to FA.

The Jets cannot waive or reduce his fines.  They are mandated by the league and the contract with the players.  The only thing the Jets could do is up his salary enough to cover his losses in fines, and I think they'd be fools to do that at this point.