Our Run Defense

[Bobby816]

Of all the things I'm worried about with us this season. Our Run D is at the top of my list.

Fotu being out the 1st 4 weeks doesn't help at all. He was brought in to be that run stuffer for us.

Most of our DTs are more getting to the QB type guys than run stoppers. Hence why Fotu was brought in.

Watts and Taylor aren't run stuffers either to round out the bottom of our DT room.

We let JFM go via trade and JJ is good against the run. But it's not likely we lean on Mc to stuff the run at his skill set and size. Which could mean more packages for our bigger DEs. Which unfortunately means Clemons, who was less than impressive this summer.

 

The only stat that I think can be in our favor. Is that maybe us having the 8th worst rush D last year was because teams were up on us late in games and just ran the ball more. Which shouldn't be the case this year. Teams likely try a more balanced attack against us if they know we can score.

So while we did have a top 5 D last year... we were the 8th worst in rush yards per game.

[Joe W. Namath]

Our Run D is fine.  

 

[Beerfish]

All world uinne dis supposed to take care of that since he is not getting sacks.

We went out and got kinlaw who beefed up for that express purpose.

According to the masses on here run defense is no issue because we will be leading almost every game this year due to our offense.

[slimjasi]

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:

The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.

Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 

 

 

[OilfieldJet]

I’m more worried about the short passing game, the backs and TEs. I hope the youth at LBers will help.

[Bronx]

It sounds familiar.

[Jethead]

Q is one of the best interior run defenders around. So, there's that.

[PepPep]

15 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Our Run D is fine.  

 

Agreed. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. Even without Fotu. 

Almost every starting D-lineman we have is at minimum decent against the run. Even McD is better at setting the edge than most give him credit for. And our OLBs can fly so its going to be hard to run outside on the Jets.  

[LAD_Brooklyn]

Unfortunately Fotu wasn't that good for the Cardinals. Hopefully he balls out some with us. But we're truly missing that run stopping goal line DT. 

With Q, JJ and JFM (at DE), we were able to require just marginal play from what ever DT we inserted along with them. As that 3 some was phenomenal against the run. Now the unit has completely changed with JFM and Huff gone with Reddick MIA.

[Jets Voice of Reason]

15 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:

The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.

Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 

 

 

Very good point. Plus with presumably a much better offense this year with a real qb, we may actually play with more leads to protect. Stocking up on pass rushers and a late game running may mean we actually close out games instead of constantly chasing teams from behind.

[Barry McCockinner]

18 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:

The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.

Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 

 

 

weird - so you're saying the defense is impacted by how well the offense does? 

[BigRy56]

6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

weird - so you're saying the defense is impacted by how well the offense does? 

[jamesr]

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:
The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.
Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 
 
 

Exactly. Quantity vs. quality.

If your opponent rushes for 2.5 yards per carry but has 60 carries, is that 150 yards against you good or bad?

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[rangerous]

3 hours ago, Bobby816 said:

Of all the things I'm worried about with us this season. Our Run D is at the top of my list.

Fotu being out the 1st 4 weeks doesn't help at all. He was brought in to be that run stuffer for us.

Most of our DTs are more getting to the QB type guys than run stoppers. Hence why Fotu was brought in.

Watts and Taylor aren't run stuffers either to round out the bottom of our DT room.

We let JFM go via trade and JJ is good against the run. But it's not likely we lean on Mc to stuff the run at his skill set and size. Which could mean more packages for our bigger DEs. Which unfortunately means Clemons, who was less than impressive this summer.

 

The only stat that I think can be in our favor. Is that maybe us having the 8th worst rush D last year was because teams were up on us late in games and just ran the ball more. Which shouldn't be the case this year. Teams likely try a more balanced attack against us if they know we can score.

So while we did have a top 5 D last year... we were the 8th worst in rush yards per game.

Some good points.  I think there’s something to be gained by rotating the dline and keeping them fresh.  Bulk isn’t the only thing the dline needs.

[Barton]

It’s definitely a concern. They were not very good after Al Woods went down last year. 

[BradSmith16fan]

Concerned about it no doubt. Think that Chuck Clark though could help a lot with the run d if he stays healthy. Key is how he recovered from his injury.

[Larz]

Yeah teams might score more than 14 points on the jets this year. 

[BreeceHallofFame]

Good luck going run first when you’re down 28 points 

[#27TheDominator]

3 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:

The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.

Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 

 

 

I came here to post this.  I thought it was tied for 10th in ypa, but the point is the same.  

I like all the young pass rushers, but I am a bit concerned that they don't have the heavier DEs that they used to.  JFM used to play that tweener role.  Now they have Clemons.  JJ, McDonald, McKinley and McGregor are all kind of smaller pass rush types that seem more like Rex era LB.  I think they, Johnson in particular, are fine against the run, but I expected some heavier DT/DE tweeners, like Holmes to stick.  If they score they'll be fine, but I am still unsure about the roster construction. I was hoping Holmes would be on the practice squad, but I have not seen his destination yet.

[NYJets8]

4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Our Run D is fine.  

 

Lol let's play a game first .. our run defense.  Sucked 

[NYJets8]

4 hours ago, slimjasi said:

Here's a fun fact that I have repeated maybe a dozen times on here over the last 6 months that people keep forgetting:

The Jets did not have the "8th worst rushing defense" last year. That's simply untrue.

Note that the Jets gave up the 8th most rushing yards last year, BUT faced the 3rd most rushing attempts. When you adjust for rushing attempts, the Jets were actually tied for 6th fewest rushing yards given up PER ATTEMPT (4.1 - tied with the 49ers, Panthers, Chargers, and Colts). 

 

 

Not good enough.  But wow what a victory

[NYJets8]

Just now, NYJets8 said:

Not good enough.  But wow what a victory

We don't stop the run when needed.  Hopefully this year with actual quarterback play.  Things will be different.  Only waiting 50 years for this.  Defense built . Quarterback play who may be the best we ever have had.. and an offense young and skilled.  Holy sh*t

[Larz]

Offenses will attack this defense exactly how offenses attacked Rex and Revis. 
 

2TEs and pick on Mosley in coverage 

4 WR and pick on Echols (or whoever)

 

that’s annoying every now and then but over the course of the game it just doesn’t generate consistent results 

the difference this time around is that the Jets don’t have to hide the QB and hope he doesn’t screw it up. 
 

enjoy the ride my friends