rangerous Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 These are the rankings per the athletic. I can't really disagree with them. Of course it's also sort of a bell curve with the top four guys kind of all on their own (with mahomes a huge outlier) and the rest clogging up the middle. Hard to really rank Rodgers without seeing him play this season. Past history doesn't guarantee future results. The Athletic's Week 1 QB rankings 1 Patrick Mahomes 2 Josh Allen 3 Joe Burrow 4 Lamar Jackson 5 Aaron Rodgers 6 Justin Herbert 7 C.J. Stroud 8 Matthew Stafford 9 Dak Prescott 10 Brock Purdy 11 Kirk Cousins 12 Jordan Love 13 Jalen Hurts 14 Trevor Lawrence 15 Tua Tagovailoa 16 Jared Goff 17 Baker Mayfield 18 Kyler Murray 19 Caleb Williams 20 Geno Smith 21 Anthony Richardson 22 Jayden Daniels 23 Derek Carr 24 Will Levis 25 Bryce Young 26 Daniel Jones 27 Deshaun Watson 28 Sam Darnold 29 Bo Nix 30 Russell Wilson 31 Jacoby Brissett 32 Gardner Minshew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted September 3 Popular Post Share Posted September 3 The Minshew disrespect is wild! @Jetsfan80 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Just now, slimjasi said: The Minshew disrespect is wild! @Jetsfan80 No f**king reason he should be behind Daniel Jones, Bryce Young or Jacoby Brissett. The rookies I understand. You're banking on potential, or whatever. I can even understand Darnold being ahead of him. But Jones has shown he's a$$ for 5 f**kin years. Bryce Young needs to begin to demonstrate a year 2 leap before you automatically put him inside the top 30, let alone top 25. I like Brissett but Minshew gives you more (albeit with a lower floor thanks to his persistent fumbling issues). A$$ list is a$$. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: No f**king reason he should be behind Daniel Jones, Bryce Young or Jacoby Brissett. The rookies I understand. You're banking on potential, or whatever. I can even understand Darnold being ahead of him. But Jones has shown he's a$$ for 5 f**kin years. Bryce Young needs to begin to demonstrate a year 2 leap before you automatically put him inside the top 30, let alone top 25. I like Brissett but Minshew gives you more (albeit with a lower floor thanks to his persistent fumbling issues). A$$ list is a$$. Agreed. And he should also be ahead of Sam. His carer stats are MUCH better. Even having someone over him like Will Levis is highly questionable (potential aside), IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 why is russ wilson wearing a smock? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 The correct list: Mahomes Allen Jackson Burrow Rodgers Hurts Herbert Stroud Stafford Dak Purdy Kyler Cousins Love Tua Goff Mayfield Lawrence Russ Geno Carr Watson Minshew Richardson Levis Darnold Brissett Bryce Young Daniel Jones Caleb Williams Jayden Daniels Bo Nix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 11 minutes ago, rangerous said: These are the rankings per the athletic. I can't really disagree with them. Of course it's also sort of a bell curve with the top four guys kind of all on their own (with mahomes a huge outlier) and the rest clogging up the middle. Hard to really rank Rodgers without seeing him play this season. Past history doesn't guarantee future results. The Athletic's Week 1 QB rankings 1 Patrick Mahomes 2 Josh Allen 3 Joe Burrow 4 Lamar Jackson 5 Aaron Rodgers 6 Justin Herbert 7 C.J. Stroud 8 Matthew Stafford 9 Dak Prescott 10 Brock Purdy 11 Kirk Cousins 12 Jordan Love 13 Jalen Hurts 14 Trevor Lawrence 15 Tua Tagovailoa 16 Jared Goff 17 Baker Mayfield 18 Kyler Murray 19 Caleb Williams 20 Geno Smith 21 Anthony Richardson 22 Jayden Daniels 23 Derek Carr 24 Will Levis 25 Bryce Young 26 Daniel Jones 27 Deshaun Watson 28 Sam Darnold 29 Bo Nix 30 Russell Wilson 31 Jacoby Brissett 32 Gardner Minshew rodgers is too high. if he's really 5th - i think we are going to the AFC championship/super bowl. surprised how far watson has fallen. below jones lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Maybe 8 QBs on this list actually earn their paychecks. The rest are overpaid, dragging their teams down because GMs are too cowardly to make tough decisions. They dish out big money to mediocre players who rack up empty stats, win 9 games, and crash out in the first round of the playoffs. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Just now, batman10023 said: rodgers is too high. if he's really 5th - i think we are going to the AFC championship/super bowl. Who are you putting ahead of him? Hurts and Herbert are the only ones that would even remotely qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Trevor Lawrence so overrated 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Trevor Lawrence so overrated People keep banking on this big developmental leap coming and it may well not. At least not to the extent of the expectation level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 5 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Maybe 8 QBs on this list actually earn their paychecks. The rest are overpaid, dragging their teams down because GMs are too cowardly to make tough decisions. They dish out big money to mediocre players who rack up empty stats, win 9 games, and crash out in the first round of the playoffs. I think just about every team out there thinks they can make a run with a B or B- QB just because a guy like Flacco did it once. Except that catching lightning in a bottle like that is exceptionally rare and you need so many other things to go right. That or they think their B/B- guy really is a B+ or better. Either way, starting over at QB is a daunting task so its far easier to pay your B/B- guy than tank for a top pick. Especially if you have a fairly loaded roster otherwise, making it difficult to tank properly. And yeah, its easy to say "just draft your QB late in the 1st/midrounds/Mr Irrelevant" but just how often does that really happen? For every Lamar/Kirk Cousins/Purdy there's a desolate wasteland of failures at the position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Who are you putting ahead of him? Hurts and Herbert are the only ones that would even remotely qualify. In addition to those guys, I've heard various folks in the media put Stafford, Lawrence, Stroud, Tua, and Love ahead of him going into the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: I think just about every team out there thinks they can make a run with a B or B- QB just because a guy like Flacco did it once. Except that catching lightning in a bottle like that is exceptionally rare and you need so many other things to go right. That or they think their B/B- guy really is a B+ or better. Yeah, and these people are delusional, dumb, incompetent, cowardly, and many other adjectives. I think it's mostly about job security. A 4-win season with a rookie QB gets you fired, but a 9-win season with Ryan Fitzpatrick buys you another year. These teams aren’t really aiming for championships—they're just trying to keep their jobs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 4 minutes ago, slimjasi said: In addition to those guys, I've heard various folks in the media put Stafford, Lawrence, Stroud, Tua, and Love ahead of him going into the year. That's absurd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 3 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: Yeah, and these people are delusional, dumb, incompetent, cowardly, and many other adjectives. I think it's mostly about job security. A 4-win season with a rookie QB gets you fired, but a 9-win season with Ryan Fitzpatrick buys you another year. These teams aren’t really aiming for championships—they're just trying to keep their jobs. Precisely. Love him or hate him, call him overrated, whatever....but more GM's need the balls that a guy like Brandon Beane has. When he traded up quite a few significant assets to snag Josh Allen, his thinking at the time was "If Allen works out, no one will care what it took to get him....if it doesn't, I won't be here anyways." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The correct list: Mahomes Allen Jackson Burrow Rodgers Hurts Herbert Stroud Stafford Dak Purdy Kyler Cousins Love Tua Goff Mayfield Lawrence Russ Geno Carr Watson Minshew Richardson Levis Darnold Brissett Bryce Young Daniel Jones Caleb Williams Jayden Daniels Bo Nix maybe. i9 tend to think the qbs in the 5-15 are clustered and then 15-20 and then 20-25 and then the rest. and i don't think there is much separation between the clusters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 So in layman's term Minshew would have given the Jets a playoff birth last year. Nice! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted September 3 Popular Post Share Posted September 3 Deshaun Watson at 27 seems low but it does just about match number of woman accused him of being a sexual predator. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Have they released their rankings for QB3 yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: The Minshew disrespect is wild! @Jetsfan80 59 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: No f**king reason he should be behind Daniel Jones, Bryce Young or Jacoby Brissett. The rookies I understand. You're banking on potential, or whatever. I can even understand Darnold being ahead of him. But Jones has shown he's a$$ for 5 f**kin years. Bryce Young needs to begin to demonstrate a year 2 leap before you automatically put him inside the top 30, let alone top 25. I like Brissett but Minshew gives you more (albeit with a lower floor thanks to his persistent fumbling issues). A$$ list is a$$. 55 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Agreed. And he should also be ahead of Sam. His carer stats are MUCH better. Even having someone over him like Will Levis is highly questionable (potential aside), IMO. 54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: The correct list: Mahomes Allen Jackson Burrow Rodgers Hurts Herbert Stroud Stafford Dak Purdy Kyler Cousins Love Tua Goff Mayfield Lawrence Russ Geno Carr Watson Minshew Richardson Levis Darnold Brissett Bryce Young Daniel Jones Caleb Williams Jayden Daniels Bo Nix 31 minutes ago, Claymation said: So in layman's term Minshew would have given the Jets a playoff birth last year. Nice! @jgb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 59 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Who are you putting ahead of him? Hurts and Herbert are the only ones that would even remotely qualify. Hurts Herbert Stroud Dak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 47 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Deshaun Watson at 27 seems low but it does just about match number of woman accused him of being a sexual predator. Agreed. I bet he has a good year- and not just at the happy ending table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: In addition to those guys, I've heard various folks in the media put Stafford, Lawrence, Stroud, Tua, and Love ahead of him going into the year. Based on the eye test there's an argument for Love based on what he actually did in big games last year and Stroud. Stafford healthy is a big time NFL QB. Same issue as Rodgers. Lets see them do it for a full season again. I wouldn't even mention Lawrence and Tua with those guys. I don't think either one has consistently raised the level of their teams like Love and Stroud did last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 32 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: @jgb 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I will be happy as a pig in sh*t if Aaron Rodgers finishes the 2024 NFL Season as the 5th best QB in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: I will be happy as a pig in sh*t if Aaron Rodgers finishes the 2024 NFL Season as the 5th best QB in the league. Not as happy as Garrett Wilson though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 I have no problem with the list. Mahomes is the best. The next two are very good, but have 'yeah, but' with their names. Tier 3, probably larger than it needs to be (4-14) have not done as much as Tier 2 (Lamar), need to do something (Herbert, Lawrence), need to do it again (Love, Stroud, Hurts) or you know what they are (Purdy, Dak A-A-Ron and Kurt). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 1 hour ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Trevor Lawrence so overrated Phew. Jets 23-Rams 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 31 minutes ago, Biggs said: Based on the eye test there's an argument for Love based on what he actually did in big games last year and Stroud. Stafford healthy is a big time NFL QB. Same issue as Rodgers. Lets see them do it for a full season again. I wouldn't even mention Lawrence and Tua with those guys. I don't think either one has consistently raised the level of their teams like Love and Stroud did last year. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: The correct list: Mahomes Allen Jackson Burrow Rodgers Hurts Herbert Stroud Stafford Dak Purdy Kyler Cousins Love Tua Goff Mayfield Lawrence Russ Geno Carr Watson Minshew Richardson Levis Darnold Brissett Bryce Young Daniel Jones Caleb Williams Jayden Daniels Bo Nix It's closer but the correct list is; 1. Mahomes 2. Jackson 3. Allen 4. Rodgers 5. Burrow 6. Stafford 7. Hurts 8. Dak 9. Purdy 10. Stroud 11. Goff 12. Herbert 13. Tua 14. Cousins 15. Love 16. Kyler 17. Mayfield 18. Geno 19. Watson 20. Lawrence 21. Richardson 22. Minshew 23. Carr 24. - 32. you're pulling pubic hairs and Russ eats them when you're done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Last years #1 in Passing Yards (4,624), #5 in Completion Percentage (69.3%), #5 in TD passes (29), #7 in INT Percentage (2.5%), #5 in QB Rating (101.1) is rated 15th on that OP list. Seems Tua will have to repeat his 2023 production before he starts getting any respect as a QB. Even then, I'll wager the two WR's will get all the credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Brock purdy is so damn overrated. Josh Allen....the most overrated player in the leauge according to players? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 That seems like a list built for clicks and reposts based on several rankings throughout the list. I'm no Minshew fan but how do you have anybody ranked below Daniel Jones. He's so bad you could have the pride of Utah ranked above him despite being QB2 on the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 28 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: 24. - 32. you're pulling pubic hairs and Russ eats them when you're done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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