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3 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so Wislon is WR1. Williiams is WR2 on a pitch count-who do we think is WR3? Lazzard or Corley?

Trying to figure out my prop bet lol

 

 

We really don’t know much about this years offense with the 1s getting so few snaps in preseason like most of week 1 betting it’s a tough call 

If I were placing that bet I’d be thinking that Lazard may get WR3 targets tonight and early in the season with Corley having to “star in his role” for the time being to earn more targets….Gipson is in the picture too 

Unless your name is Garrett Wilson or Breece Hall is tough to make a prediction like that without seeing some of the offense beforehand

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7 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so Wislon is WR1. Williiams is WR2 on a pitch count-who do we think is WR3? Lazzard or Corley?

Trying to figure out my prop bet lol

 

 

Lazard anytime is +550

i already put that in since chances are very high rodgers will try him in the redzone

him catching it is another story

 

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4 minutes ago, Trotter said:

Lazard anytime is +550

i already put that in since chances are very high rodgers will try him in the redzone

him catching it is another story

 

I was thinking the same thing, lol. I went with this shot in the dark bet. I figured it's only a $1 😅

 

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I'd imagine it will be G5, Lazard, Gipson w/ Mike Will getting a snap here and there but nothing significant.  I assume Corley will get an end around, screen, or something.  Probably 1 maybe 2 plays.

I'm not expecting a big night from any WR.  If there is, it's going to be Lazard IMO because of match ups/familiarity w/ Rodgers.

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34 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so Wislon is WR1. Williiams is WR2 on a pitch count-who do we think is WR3? Lazzard or Corley?

Trying to figure out my prop bet lol

 

 

As echoed by others, I'm pretty firm Lazard will be WR3. He may even function more like WR2, particularly if he's being used in the slot in 2TE sets. He played the slot in GB with Rodgers, I imagine he'll continue that role for the majority of reps. Maybe they would move him outside for a few reps if they're giving Williams a break and using 3WR sets.

You've got to imagine the Jets will ease Williams back into his first game action since the ACL tear, especially since he was only back for the last week of camp. I'd be very hesitant to bet on him.

Meanwhile Corley may not even play. I wouldn't bet on him either. It's a discussion for another day, but I'm pretty disappointed the jets took him knowing he needs further development as their RD3 pick for this "win now" year. Felt like other, more complete, options were available to push Lazard for that slot role...

 

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34 minutes ago, kmnj said:

so Wislon is WR1. Williiams is WR2 on a pitch count-who do we think is WR3? Lazzard or Corley?

Trying to figure out my prop bet lol

 

 

Wilson is going to play slot but move around... In 3 wr sets you will see a lot of Wilson in slot and lazard and Williams on the outside...

If they move Wilson outside at times Williams/lazard will play opposite and Gibson will be slot... 

 

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8 minutes ago, Larz said:

Lazard big slot and outside when Williams is not 

Gipson slot 

Corley package of screens and reverses 

It will be interesting to see how they use Corely. They didn't really show anything in the preseason with him. That could be because they don't want to show their hand or he's just not ready to contribute. 

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26 minutes ago, bicketybam said:

I was thinking the same thing, lol. I went with this shot in the dark bet. I figured it's only a $1 😅

 

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I like this one.  I can see Allen being given some goal line carries.  He's a freaking truck. I'm following this.  I'll drop $5  on it. 

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5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

It will be interesting to see how they use Corely. They didn't really show anything in the preseason with him. That could be because they don't want to show their hand or he's just not ready to contribute. 

they had him doing some Deebo-like running and gadget plays at the practices I went to. 

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17 minutes ago, Larz said:

Lazard big slot and outside when Williams is not 

Gipson slot 

Corley package of screens and reverses 

Going to be a bit annoying watching the Jets set Corley up for failure this way. When he's on the field other teams will easily key in on the designed gadget plays. Even if the jets use him to set up some fakes, they'll have to commit to several (probably poorly working) gadget plays first...

They should really get him out there and just have him block or run routes for a while before they start setting screens and the like. I don't trust Hackett to think ahead on that, though. Gadget plays really do not work when you telegraph them... Or else the wildcat and guys like mecole hardman would be having a lot more success right now. Corley needs to improve RR and blocking before he sees snaps

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44 minutes ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I'm not endorsing it, but it's almost certainly Lazard due to his history with Rodgers.

I'm sure there will be some plays sprinkled in specifically for Corley - end arounds etc.

Gipson in the slot - probably rotating with Corley.

I think you're right.  I know we always look at things negatively but a huge bonus this year (and one most of us disregarded based on previous performance) is Lazard and his relationship with Rodgers.  Rodgers and Lazard have been very good together in the past. Let's hope its the same this year.

 

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12 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said:

As echoed by others, I'm pretty firm Lazard will be WR3. He may even function more like WR2, particularly if he's being used in the slot in 2TE sets. He played the slot in GB with Rodgers, I imagine he'll continue that role for the majority of reps. Maybe they would move him outside for a few reps if they're giving Williams a break and using 3WR sets.

You've got to imagine the Jets will ease Williams back into his first game action since the ACL tear, especially since he was only back for the last week of camp. I'd be very hesitant to bet on him.

Meanwhile Corley may not even play. I wouldn't bet on him either. It's a discussion for another day, but I'm pretty disappointed the jets took him knowing he needs further development as their RD3 pick for this "win now" year. Felt like other, more complete, options were available to push Lazard for that slot role...

 

The other thing to remember is that Lazard is an excellent blocker.

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I doubt Williams is fully ready.

Wilson should get the most targets, like it or not Lazard probably gets the 2nd most, and Williams 3rd.  Corely maybe gets a few as the 4th WR option tonight, likely less than Conklin at TE.

Don't sleep on how many targets Hall and the RB group might get tonight too.

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Here are the matchups:

Breece. Garrett, Mike Williams (limited), Conklin, Lazard

versus

McCaffrey, Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittles 

You really can't feel great about this.  And SF was so dissatisfied with these weapons that they drafted another WR with their first round pick.  We are one Garrett Wilson hamstring away from having the worst WR room in the league.  Agree with an earlier poster drafting a project in round 3 instead of a more NFL ready WR (Roman Wilson) was a mistake imo. 

 

 

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In terms of targets today…

GW: WR1. GW > Ward to I expect us to attack this until they start doubling him.

MW: WR2. Yes he won’t be out there every down. But I think he’ll get 60-75% of snaps. So I see him getting several passes thrown his way. Especially in the gold zone.

AL: WR3. ARs comfortable with him. So I expect him to use him if the above 2 are covered or not in the game.

XG: WR4. Might get some work in the slot when MW isn’t in there And we move GW outside.

MC: Corley I think barely plays today sadly.

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9 minutes ago, Chewy and the Jets said:

Here are the matchups:

Breece. Garrett, Mike Williams (limited), Conklin, Lazard

versus

McCaffrey, Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittles 

You really can't feel great about this.  And SF was so dissatisfied with these weapons that they drafted another WR with their first round pick.  We are one Garrett Wilson hamstring away from having the worst WR room in the league.  Agree with an earlier poster drafting a project in round 3 instead of a more NFL ready WR (Roman Wilson) was a mistake imo. 

 

 

If Garrett Wilson pulls a hammy and is replaced by nobody, they still won't even have the worst WR room in the division, let alone the league.

SF drafted another WR in round 1 because they were preparing to lose Aiyuk this offseason. They had at least one Aiyuk trade ready to go through but for him refusing to sign an extension offer from those potential trade partners (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and I think New England).

With Aiyuk signing this $30MM/year deal, the clock is then ticking on Deebo. They can probably do it for one more season, but the year or two after that too many other contracts will start kicking in much more for CMC, Purdy, Aiyuk, Williams, Bosa, Hargrave, Warner, and any other veteran of substance they look to add.

Regardless, it's pretty obvious the Jets preferred to draft a WR at #10 or higher, but got shut out by one pick. Their WR concerns are mostly early-season ones: Lazard's last action being weekly facepalms, Williams coming off a bad knee injury from last year, and Corley's lack of preseason action making him look like more of a work in process than hoped. 

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1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

If Garrett Wilson pulls a hammy and is replaced by nobody, they still won't even have the worst WR room in the division, let alone the league.

SF drafted another WR in round 1 because they were preparing to lose Aiyuk this offseason. They had at least one Aiyuk trade ready to go through but for him refusing to sign an extension offer from those potential trade partners (Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and I think New England).

With Aiyuk signing this $30MM/year deal, the clock is then ticking on Deebo. They can probably do it for one more season, but the year or two after that too many other contracts will start kicking in much more for CMC, Purdy, Aiyuk, Williams, Bosa, Hargrave, Warner, and any other veteran of substance they look to add.

Regardless, it's pretty obvious the Jets preferred to draft a WR at #10 or higher, but got shut out by one pick. Their WR concerns are mostly early-season ones: Lazard's last action being weekly facepalms, Williams coming off a bad knee injury from last year, and Corley's lack of preseason action making him look like more of a work in process than hoped. 

If we had gotten a WR in round 1, we would now be talking about how we are one Tyron Smith or Morgan Moses pulled hammy away from disaster.  Honestly, I think we are safer this way.  There is a chance our other WRs can step up for a week or two if needed.  But we have already seen the results of our OL depth failing completely and I have no wish to ever see that again.

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