JetNation Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 A report from Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com says that in speaking to execs around the league, there are those who believe the Jets may have “no choice” but to trade Haason Reddick. Dec 3, 2023; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA; Philadelphia Eagles linebacker Haason Reddick (7) reacts after a defensive stop against the San Francisco 49ers during the first quarter at Lincoln Financial Field. Mandatory Credit: Bill Streicher-USA TODAY Sports The disgruntled edge rusher who recently demanded a trade, has amassed over $5 million in fines for failing to report this season as he hopes for a bigger pay day. He will continue to rack up roughly $800,000 per week as he is now losing game checks. Gang Green dealt for Reddick this offseason after, according to Connor Hughes of SNY, believing Reddick would play ball. The Jets believed Reddick was going to come in to camp and work toward earning a new deal. Meanwhile, Reddick and his camp say he has no plan to report withing first getting his new deal. Both sides are dug in deep but at some point something will have to give. Following their season-opening loss, Reddick likely believed his position was strengthened as Robert Saleh’s defense generated close to zero pass rush. The post NFL Exec: Jets may Eventually Have to Deal Haason Reddick appeared first on JetNation.com - New York Jets Blog & Forum.Click here to read the full story... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 Joe Douglas playing hungry hungry hippos while the rest of the league plays chess. 1 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GQMartin Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Where is there anything from an "NFL Exec" in this article? Why pose an opinion on behalf of Reddick or his camp instead of asking them? Great journalism. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plen T Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 How on earth would that be the case? Diva Boy must play AND perform to get his next contract Jets cannot lose here unless they cave 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
static14 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I can't see a scenario where that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Looks like Reddick’s plan is to holdout until 6 games left. Then he will show up and be FA next year. The hope is he balls out those games and playoffs (God willing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 At this rate, by the time HR shows to keep his contract from tolling, coach Bobby will be mathematically eliminated, so it won't matter except it'll add $ against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 There's worse things than a healthy Reddick coming in with his hair on fire during the Super Bowl run. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Pac said: There's worse things than a healthy Reddick coming in with his hair on fire during the Super Bowl run. He'll suffer a couple soft tissue injuries upon his return and we'll never see him again. SEE: Revis, Darrelle. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Not true. JN says Joe Douglas is winning and will win no matter what. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Does Joe Douglas care more about winning the Reddick negotiation or winning football games this season? If he doesn't win this year, it won't matter what happens with Reddick -- Douglas will be looking for a new job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 7 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Does Joe Douglas care more about winning the Reddick negotiation or winning football games this season? If he doesn't win this year, it won't matter what happens with Reddick -- Douglas will be looking for a new job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 According to Jake Asman, Jets talking to Reddick again. JD committed the ultimate negotiation sin: made a threat he wasn’t willing to follow through on. Will cost ‘em. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 Why is it he has “no choice” but to trade him? People don’t do things without reasons, even if the reasons aren’t good, and/or even if people don’t like the reasons. There’s no reason given here. The only good reason to trade Reddick is if they’re offered more than they gave up to get him. Absent that, they don’t “have to” do anything. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Why is it he has “no choice” but to trade him? People don’t do things without reasons, even if the reasons aren’t good, and/or even if people don’t like the reasons. There’s no reason given here. The only good reason to trade Reddick is if they’re offered more than they gave up to get him. Absent that, they don’t “have to” do anything. Keep in mind that for 99% of the population, their negotiation experience is limited to a new car lease every 5 years and probably 90% of them rely on the old “storm out” technique as their “power move.” No one thinks they’d just be a good oncologist without education and experience, but everyone thinks they’d be a boss negotiator. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 6 minutes ago, jgb said: According to Jake Asman, Jets talking to Reddick again. JD committed the ultimate negotiation sin: made a threat he wasn’t willing to follow through on. Will cost ‘em. JD's position has literally not changed since day 1. not sure what you are talking about. ASSman repeated what Hughes said, which is JD has spoken to Tory Dumbass.....which i am sure means very little and isnt new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 8 minutes ago, k-met57 said: JD's position has literally not changed since day 1. not sure what you are talking about. ASSman repeated what Hughes said, which is JD has spoken to Tory Dumbass.....which i am sure means very little and isnt new. Hard to sort through the nicknames, but if it is true that JD is talking to Reddick’s reps, that’s a cave in… from the very foolish stand that the player needs to report to talk at all. Unforced negotiation error. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 2 minutes ago, jgb said: Hard to sort through the nicknames, but if it is true that JD is talking to Reddick’s reps, that’s a cave in… from the very foolish stand that the player needs to report to talk at all. Unforced negotiation error. To be fair, simply being in contact and actually negotiating are two different things. Perhaps JD is just gauging their temperature on flying out? Or perhaps it's anonymous speculative hogwash. Who knows? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Is it possible that HR’s agent is telling him to sit because Douglas will likely be fired at the end of the year and the next Jets GM would likely release him? Hell he could go back to Philly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Is it possible that HR’s agent is telling him to sit because Douglas will likely be fired at the end of the year and the next Jets GM would likely release him? Hell he could go back to Philly. But why not just play, not pay fines and then be a free agent..? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Is it possible that HR’s agent is telling him to sit because Douglas will likely be fired at the end of the year and the next Jets GM would likely release him? Hell he could go back to Philly. I was thinking about this. Given how crazy this holdout has been so far, nothing is out of the question. But based on everything I've read so far, not only would Reddick lose his year's salary, but he would actually be like 1m-2m in the red with pre season fines for the year. Doesn't that seem... Untenable? For a guy who's holding out for more money? Even aside the obvious logic that another team isn't going to magically give him a big contract next off season after all this... You have to feel like he'll report just in time for week 10. Maybe he will simply get "injured" at that point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: But why not just play, not pay fines and then be a free agent..? So he doesn't suffer a career ending or ruining injury, get released, and never earn another cent? The real question is why he won't come negotiate with the Jets to get his guaranteed money. The answer is, apparently, that he wants a long term deal. But the approach doesn't match the destination for him lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Pac said: There's worse things than a healthy Reddick coming in with his hair on fire during the Super Bowl run. Just gonna go down with the ship huh 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 15 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Is it possible that HR’s agent is telling him to sit because Douglas will likely be fired at the end of the year and the next Jets GM would likely release him? Hell he could go back to Philly. Lots of things are possible and unknowable. That’s why I play the odds. It was a bad play for JD to publicly announce he requires Reddick’s physical presence to negotiate a new deal. Bought the Jets nothing and self-restricted his freedom of action. The best leverage comes with insouciance at the table, not an explicit threat. True leverage is a weight on the other party. He doesn’t need to be told about it… he feels it. 11 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: But why not just play, not pay fines and then be a free agent..? Injury 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 8 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Just gonna go down with the ship huh OK, so some upside for another disastrous season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pac Posted September 12 Popular Post Share Posted September 12 10 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Just gonna go down with the ship huh I don't share the grotesque cowardice many have exhibited the last couple days. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 The obvious way forward here is for JD to run a canard play. Get a weak concession to be able to justify the reversal of his position to not talk before Reddick reports. Could range from, the low end, asking Reddick to agree to another physical or, on the high end, getting Reddick to report as a hold in. That’s what I’d be trying for right now if I was JD. The ultimate fallback position is to get a letter of intent that both parties agree to negotiate “in good faith,” if that’s how this goes, JD about to get steamrolled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 26 minutes ago, jgb said: Hard to sort through the nicknames, but if it is true that JD is talking to Reddick’s reps, that’s a cave in… from the very foolish stand that the player needs to report to talk at all. Unforced negotiation error. you do realize that agents talk to GM's regularly, not to mention that Tory Dumbass represents others players on the jets right? i know you are trying to visualize the jets caving to this scumbag....but it wont happen....let him rot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 22 minutes ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said: But why not just play, not pay fines and then be a free agent..? Doesn’t want to play for the Jets. Idk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 feels like Reddicks agents trying to apply pressure on top of the sh*t game. I still think he eventually tucks his tail and shows up prior to the cutoff to get credit for the year. JD gains nothing by trading him at a loss. The schedule looks much easier after SF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, k-met57 said: you do realize that agents talk to GM's regularly, not to mention that Tory Dumbass represents others players on the jets right? i know you are trying to visualize the jets caving to this scumbag....but it wont happen....let him rot. I do realize agents talk to GMs regularly, without the player being present. Please let JD know that, since he claims “precedent” as his justification for negotiation incompetence. Regarding the “let him rot” comment — well, let’s hope JD isn’t as emotional about this as us fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waka Flocka Flacco Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 31 minutes ago, jgb said: Keep in mind that for 99% of the population, their negotiation experience is limited to a new car lease every 5 years and probably 90% of them rely on the old “storm out” technique as their “power move.” No one thinks they’d just be a good oncologist without education and experience, but everyone thinks they’d be a boss negotiator. You're talking about people who can't believe Douglas has to play out the season without an extension while at the same time fully expecting Reddick to play out the season without an extension. Most amateurs' negotiation strategy is to filibuster until the other side just gives up and lets them have their way. You can tell who has had success with this, because then they try to do it on everybody in every instance regardless of whether it is actually within anybody's power to accede to their demands. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: feels like Reddicks agents trying to apply pressure on top of the sh*t game. Wouldn’t you? 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I still think he eventually tucks his tail and shows up prior to the cutoff to get credit for the year. JD gains nothing by trading him at a loss. He will definitely show up with 6 weeks left to accrue the year. That’s 10 games from now, though. 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The schedule looks much easier after SF. It does but these remain the New York Jets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Waka Flocka Flacco said: You're talking about people who can't believe Douglas has to play out the season without an extension while at the same time fully expecting Reddick to play out the season without an extension. Most amateurs' negotiation strategy is to filibuster until the other side just gives up and lets them have their way. You can tell who has had success with this, because then they try to do it on everybody in every instance regardless of whether it is actually within anybody's power to accede to their demands. I hire you to represent me at my next negotiation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 6 minutes ago, jgb said: I do realize agents talk to GMs regularly, without the player being present. Please let JD know that, since he claims “precedent” as his justification for negotiation incompetence. Regarding the “let him rot” comment — well, let’s hope JD isn’t as emotional about this as us fans. Joe Douglas has been very clear over and over.....u just think u know better or are smarter...neither of which is true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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