Kevin Kolb

[PavlovsDogs]

Been a Jet Fan since 1980... hate the Dolphins.  Honestly don't hate them they way I used to post Bellichick (and the fact I actually like their current coach a lot and have been impressed with Tua).  But man, just read this article about Kevin Kolb and his concussion history that led to his retirement, and I just feel awful for Tua.  He HAS to know this is the end.  If he doesn't, he needs to speak with Mr. Kolb.

I love this game so much, but there is a brutality that is heartbreaking for fans, and devastating for players who lose their careers to injury.  This was a tough read, but very illuminating:  https://www.golongtd.com/p/part-i-what-happened-to-kevin-kolb

[slats]

Junior Seau shot himself in the chest so that his brain could be studied. There’s no amount of money that can possibly overcome the relentless depression brought upon by literal brain damage. I hope the doctors tell him he should never play again, so he can at least walk away with most of the money and maybe a chance at a normal life after football. 

[ARodJetsFan]

5 minutes ago, slats said:

Junior Seau shot himself in the chest so that his brain could be studied. There’s no amount of money that can possibly overcome the relentless depression brought upon by literal brain damage. I hope the doctors tell him he should never play again, so he can at least walk away with most of the money and maybe a chance at a normal life after football. 

Concussions & Traumatic Brain Injury are very real.

I know Tua just received a massive contract from the Phish, but the man needs to be thinking about his family & life after football.

I sincerely hope everything works out for him.

[TuscanyTile2]

38 minutes ago, slats said:

Junior Seau shot himself in the chest so that his brain could be studied. There’s no amount of money that can possibly overcome the relentless depression brought upon by literal brain damage. I hope the doctors tell him he should never play again, so he can at least walk away with most of the money and maybe a chance at a normal life after football. 

Wow, I wasn't aware of that.  I wish OJ had allowed doctors to check his brain for CTE after he passed.  I wouldn't be surprised if he had it.

[Jetpain]

With his concussion history why would he not be wearing one of those guardian caps ?  

[JoJoTownsell1]

3 hours ago, slats said:

Junior Seau shot himself in the chest so that his brain could be studied. There’s no amount of money that can possibly overcome the relentless depression brought upon by literal brain damage. I hope the doctors tell him he should never play again, so he can at least walk away with most of the money and maybe a chance at a normal life after football. 

I agree to an extent. Everyone reacts differently. All of the players from the 70s and 80s and 90s and beyond got concussed, (had their bell rung etc.), stayed in games, got hit in the head again and didn't have the reaction Seau had. That doesn't mean repeated concussions aren't a terrible injury, it clearly is, but it is a personal decision to make based on the guidance of doctors.

Signing up to play professional football is inherently a risky decision. We've seen guys like Barry Sanders and Andrew Luck hang it up in their prime. So no one would blame Tua for doing so given these concussions. 

[JoJoTownsell1]

1 hour ago, Jetpain said:

With his concussion history why would he not be wearing one of those guardian caps ?  

Was wondering the exact same thing. While I understand why most players don't want to wear it because it doesn't look cool and you don't look as "tough", it should be mandated for players with a history of concussions so they can wear it without people questioning their toughness. 

[David Harris]

50 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

Was wondering the exact same thing. While I understand why most players don't want to wear it because it doesn't look cool and you don't look as "tough", it should be mandated for players with a history of concussions so they can wear it without people questioning their toughness. 

Reportedly, there’s several models of new NFL helmets that give equal protection to helmets with guardian caps without the external cap

[PS17]

2 hours ago, Jetpain said:

With his concussion history why would he not be wearing one of those guardian caps ?  

I think it’s too little too late with someone like Tua. I might be wrong but I think these guardian caps are designed to reduce the “minor” concussions linemen experience on a play to play basis. 

I think he’s had six serious concussions now going back to his time at Alabama, several of them in quick succession. 

[JetsfaninNorthHollywood]

Dave Duerson (ex Bear and Giant) also committed suicide, he wanted his brain examined for CTE. Andre Waters also did the same. 

[chirorob]

That was a long and heart breaking read.

I'm glad he had been able to get help, and be able to raise his kids.

[Smashmouth]

2 hours ago, Jetpain said:

With his concussion history why would he not be wearing one of those guardian caps ?  

Because they dont really help when your head is moving at a certain velocity then comes to a screatching halt by hitting the ground or another player. 

[Jetpain]

9 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Because they dont really help when your head is moving at a certain velocity then comes to a screatching halt by hitting the ground or another player. 

While they may not help in certain situations, i would think that in many situations they do help, especially with a player who has had prior concussions.  I would have to think that every hit matters and that a guy like Tua should at least attempt to minimize as many head impacts as possible, small or large. 

[BUM-KNEE]

10 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

Because they dont really help when your head is moving at a certain velocity then comes to a screatching halt by hitting the ground or another player. 

I think the caps are more to lessen the cumlative damage done over time, not the big shot

[Rich Thornburgh]

Tua is going to retire

[Jetsfan80]

17 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

Concussions & Traumatic Brain Injury are very real.

I know Tua just received a massive contract from the Phish, but the man needs to be thinking about his family & life after football.

I sincerely hope everything works out for him.

Luckily per @Sperm Edwards roughly $192M of it appears to be fully guaranteed if he retires today.  

[Sperm Edwards]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Luckily per @Sperm Edwards roughly $192M of it appears to be fully guaranteed if he retires today.  

I mean, I'm just reading off someone else's website, but that's how it looks based on that info. He wouldn't likely get it all right away (2025 guarantees pay in 2025, 2026 guaranteed salary may pay in weekly/game installments in 2026, etc.) but it's a plenty small-enough window. 

If week 1 ends up being his final game - and it probably won't be, though for his sake it should - that's one expensive game for the Dolphins. Circumstances leading to it aside, in hindsight it'd be the worst contract ever awarded in professional sports. 

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

I mean, I'm just reading off someone else's website, but that's how it looks based on that info. 

I trust your cap takes implicitly.  You could just make up stuff at this point and I’d gobble it up.

[Sperm Edwards]

5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I trust your cap takes implicitly.  You could just make up stuff at this point and I’d gobble it up.

That's a hanging curveball for an easy sperm joke if ever there was one. 

[Dunnie]

I trust your cap takes implicitly.  You could just make up stuff at this point and I’d gobble it up.

I just steer clear at all costs ... I liken scrutinizing a Sperm analysis to reading "the Book of the Dead", gazing upon Medusa, or comprehending Cthulhu.... It would not end well for you.

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[Jetsfan80]

17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

I trust your cap takes implicitly.  You could just make up stuff at this point and I’d gobble it up.

 

10 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said:

That's a hanging curveball for an easy sperm joke if ever there was one. 

[Sperm Edwards]

8 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

I just steer clear at all costs ... I liken scrutinizing a Sperm analysis to reading "the Book of the Dead", gazing upon Medusa, or comprehending Cthulhu.... It would not end well for you.

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There's a compliment in there somewhere, I'm sure

[ARodJetsFan]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Luckily per @Sperm Edwards roughly $192M of it appears to be fully guaranteed if he retires today.  

Good for Tua if it's true, maybe not so great for the Phish.

I wonder what kind of CAP hit the Phish would have to absorb, if he did retire.

[bicketybam]

The only way Tua gets all his guaranteed money is if he has to retire due to medical reasons. If he voluntarily retires he doesn't get it. I believe he gives up around 124 million if he calls it quits while being medically cleared to play. I don't see that happening.

[Claymation]

I hope Tua never play again, but collects every cent from the Dolphins. He should do no favors for his injury. If the NFL and/or the Dolphins try to do something shady, I hope they exposed worse than Shannon Sharpes live streaming.

[bla bla bla]

22 hours ago, slats said:

Junior Seau shot himself in the chest so that his brain could be studied. There’s no amount of money that can possibly overcome the relentless depression brought upon by literal brain damage. I hope the doctors tell him he should never play again, so he can at least walk away with most of the money and maybe a chance at a normal life after football. 

Scary fact I've come across:

Average age of death for a male in USA is 75

Average age of death for an NFL player is 55

 

Id imagine that will get longer as newer players age with better technology but this game ain't worth 20 years off your life.

[Dunnie]

Scary fact I've come across:
Average age of death for a male in USA is 75
Average age of death for an NFL player is 55
 
Id imagine that will get longer as newer players age with better technology but this game ain't worth 20 years off your life.

Wow.... I agree ...How is Broadway Joe .. one of the most battered humans to play QB ... Sill kicking ??? This is a serious question.

Average USA Male Salary : 64K
Average NFL Salary : 2.7M (this is from 2017... So its higher .. I'll see if I can find the current number)

Risk / Reward might have something to do with why it's still a sport guys want to play.


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[Rangers9]

If there is one reason why football in the future might be unsuccessful concussions is it. They might try but there really isn't a solution. We know the NFL is a cash cow and probably a great investment. For now. But what about the future. If I had billions I wouldn't be spending it on an NFL franchise. And if I owned one I'd sell now at high of market value. 

[bla bla bla]

4 hours ago, Dunnie said:

 

Wow.... I agree ...How is Broadway Joe .. one of the most battered humans to play QB ... Sill kicking ??? This is a serious question.

Average USA Male Salary : 64K
Average NFL Salary : 2.7M (this is from 2017... So its higher .. I'll see if I can find the current number)

Risk / Reward might have something to do with why it's still a sport guys want to play.

 

Sure, that's just the NFL. Probably have to filter out QB salary from that average to get a fair assessment (even though this topic is Tua related)

I'd imagine finding out life spans for NCAA level play is harder to find out but when you consider the average NFL career is only 3.5 years long, I'd have to think there is an impact on that level too.

[jetswin]

thanks for posting that was a great read