Cimini said it best today...no really

[BornJetsFan1983]

I can't believe it, after watching this game so much anger towards my team and we won. 

Well I might have alluded to it but didn't say it this neatly.

Cimini of all people said it perfectly. 

Unbelievable 

 

 

[Beerfish]

What is the issue?  It was well known that hackett was about the worst oc you could possibly get and no other team would touch him with a 100 foot pole and now we are surprised the offense stinks?

Rodgers can do all the audibles he wants but if the scheme and play sheet stinks he is a bit limited.

[Maynard13]

30 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

What is the issue?  It was well known that hackett was about the worst oc you could possibly get and no other team would touch him with a 100 foot pole and now we are surprised the offense stinks?

Rodgers can do all the audibles he wants but if the scheme and play sheet stinks he is a bit limited.

Aaron cares not because........he's Aaron Rodgers.

[doitny]

i said this last week. ...run.....run.....pass....punt is a Zach Wilson game plan. i just hope its because they are trying to ease Rodgers back into it. 

[T0mShane]

4 hours ago, Beerfish said:

What is the issue?  It was well known that hackett was about the worst oc you could possibly get and no other team would touch him with a 100 foot pole and now we are surprised the offense stinks?

Rodgers can do all the audibles he wants but if the scheme and play sheet stinks he is a bit limited.

Do we really think Nate Hackett is calling these plays?

[TuscanyTile2]

Hackett stinks but, tbf, he's only here because we hired him in an attempt to woo AR8.

And while I don't want to go into a full-on debate about ZW, that was kind of a cheap shot by Cimini.  We know that Saleh is clueless when it comes to offense and Hackett is bad at his job (and the Russini article made it seem like Hackett was barely putting in the work).  Our OL is way better this year than last and we do have more weapinzz on offense now (Mike Williams would've been helpful last year!)  

[Irish Jet]

Cimini talking nonsense tbh.

Both Hackett and Rodgers are obviously trying to ease him back in. We did call 30 passes yesterday and got more aggressive as the game went on.

We probably gave the 49ers too much respect on that front but when you hear the guys in the team talk they expect things to be much smoother later in the year.

[JiFtheOracle]

Meh, he posted that 30 minutes into the game?  While I'm not going to argue that the early play calling wasnt very imaginative.  Their first drive was stalled by a Rodgers intentional grounding immediately after picking up a first down.

The 3rd and 1 run up the gut w/ Hall for the third straight time on the following drive would be my guess when he posted this...I agree, terrible predictable play call but they were in 3rd and 1, you gotta be able to pick that up.

Next drive was all pass, Rodgers took a sack, and threw it short of the sticks to Hall on 3rd.

I think the frustrating part of the early play calling, is it was all Hall.  The only other play that wasnt for him was the Corley catch.  They need to get more of the offense involved early, not the Hall show on every down early in the game.  

Otherwise, I didnt hate the play calling at all.  Both RB's were solid.  7 different WR's had a reception. 30 passes vs 24 runs is a good recipe.  I think they get a little stuck trying to force the issue.  They look best when they're going up tempo and letting Rodgers control at the LOS, he's just got to speed up his internal clock a bit and not take everything down to 1 sec on the play clock.

 

[UnknownJetFan]

4 hours ago, Beerfish said:

What is the issue?  It was well known that hackett was about the worst oc you could possibly get and no other team would touch him with a 100 foot pole and now we are surprised the offense stinks?

Rodgers can do all the audibles he wants but if the scheme and play sheet stinks he is a bit limited.

This offense doesn’t stink, it has scored 6 TDs in 2 weeks. Last year it went 6 or 7 games without a TD. That’s a big difference.

[JiFtheOracle]

Oh and Tyler Conklin is overrated poop who is worthless and just taking up space.  Passing on Brock Bowers was next level stupid.  This offense would be so much better w/ Brock Bowers it's not even funny.  Dude is a legit star in week 2 of his career.  Right now, nobody can shake loose off the LOS for the quick gains, other than G5 and this dude would be exactly what the offense needs.  oh well but damn, looks at this beast;

 

[doitny]

24 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Do we really think Nate Hackett is calling these plays?

yes thats why Rodgers keeps almost taking delay of game penalties. the whole game he is calling audibles.

[JiFtheOracle]

4 minutes ago, UnknownJetFan said:

This offense doesn’t stink, it has scored 6 TDs in 2 weeks. Last year it went 6 or 7 games without a TD. That’s a big difference.

lmfao - the NY Jets scored 18 total TD's in '23.  They have the least amount of TD's in the league over the last 2 seasons.  They've scored 6 after 2 games already and Jets fans are all yah but the offense stinks! 

Did anyone watch last night's game?  2 teams played, they scored 1 single TD a piece and those teams are being led by the #1 overall pick and last year, #2 overall pick and arguably, have the best WR core in Football on their teams.

lol

[doitny]

3 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

lmfao - the NY Jets scored 18 total TD's in '23.  They have the least amount of TD's in the league over the last 2 seasons.  They've scored 6 after 2 games already and Jets fans are all yah but the offense stinks! 

Did anyone watch last night's game?  2 teams played, they scored 1 single TD a piece and those teams are being led by the #1 overall pick and last year, #2 overall pick and arguably, have the best WR core in Football on their teams.

lol

they expected us to beat them 40-3. then they would complain about giving up the 3 points. lol

this is the NFL today, especially early on. any team can beat anyone. you hear some guys here worried about Minn because they beat the 49ers who killed us. does anyone think the Vikings are going to destroy us? not me.

[AFJF]

He was calling plays as if he doesn't trust Rodgers' ability to move and Rodgers didn't audible out.

Lots of tosses and swings/screens through the first two weeks.  It literally looks like they're trying to have him throw the ball within a space of 1 square yard.

Hopefully they loosen things up as the season goes on and he shows he can do it.

[JiFtheOracle]

5 minutes ago, doitny said:

they expected us to beat them 40-3. then they would complain about giving up the 3 points. lol

this is the NFL today, especially early on. any team can beat anyone. you hear some guys here worried about Minn because they beat the 49ers who killed us. does anyone think the Vikings are going to destroy us? not me.

If you look around the league, I think 5 teams scored 24-26 points and only 3 teams went north of that on the day.

 

[T0mShane]

16 minutes ago, AFJF said:

He was calling plays as if he doesn't trust Rodgers' ability to move and Rodgers didn't audible out.

Lots of tosses and swings/screens through the first two weeks.  It literally looks like they're trying to have him throw the ball within a space of 1 square yard.

Hopefully they loosen things up as the season goes on and he shows he can do it.

Except this is exactly what the 22-23 Packers offense looked like. This is what Rodgers conception of football is these days: lean on the run game, keep it close into the fourth quarter, let Rodgers win it for you at the end. It works against the Will Levis Titans, but not so much against better clubs. 

[Biggs]

He lost me on Hackett is calling plays.  Does anyone believe Hackett is tuned into Rodger helmet during games?  Rodgers doesn’t need another distraction.

[BreeceHallofFame]

Should the vaunted Texans get more creative too? They only mustered 19 points at home. How about Andy Reid? He scored like 2 more points than the Jets. How about the ravens offense? They scored less than the Jets.

 

[Larz]

6 TDs in 2 games is unacceptable.  Were jets fans.  Were used to high flying offense. 
 

 

[JiFtheOracle]

23 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Except this is exactly what the 22-23 Packers offense looked like. This is what Rodgers conception of football is these days: lean on the run game, keep it close into the fourth quarter, let Rodgers win it for you at the end. It works against the Will Levis Titans, but not so much against better clubs. 

Good call, the Packers went 26-7 over 2 years running this "conception of Football". 

[Larz]

His scripts suck ass.  They are getting very little from Wilson, Williams, Lazard Corley and Gipson. The TEs are just blockers.   It’s just clunky. The timing and communication is off. 
 

i think we see a different offense against Denver.  Just beat the cheaters anyway you can and then regroup after the mini bye. 
 

 

[carlito1171]

Some ppl make it seem like the people who call out the OC are nuts.......love or hate cimini he's been around the game for a long time....

If he's noticing the same things the avg fan is noticing.......it says something about the competency of our current play caller....

[Warfish]

1 hour ago, JiFtheOracle said:

lmfao - the NY Jets scored 18 total TD's in '23.  They have the least amount of TD's in the league over the last 2 seasons.  They've scored 6 after 2 games already and Jets fans are all yah but the offense stinks! 

Did anyone watch last night's game?  2 teams played, they scored 1 single TD a piece and those teams are being led by the #1 overall pick and last year, #2 overall pick and arguably, have the best WR core in Football on their teams.

lol

Two things can be true at once, the offense is clearly improved over being Zach-led with no O-line, but it doesn’t look or feel “good” as yet either.

[Trotter]

Most around here know that the so called SOJ lose that game yesterday

they didn’t and are now 1-1 which is most likely where they should be yet after the game there are posts of trade sauce for value now, gw is overrated and rodgers is too old and washed.

@Joe W. Namath is typically nuts but I am starting to lean his way with this Jets fans are the best nonsense.

this team most likely does not hit its stride whatever that is going to be until mid season.

Let’s take it easy, enjoy the next few which hopefully are wins and see what they are

most know the coaching of this team is suspect but a guy like rodgers can certainly help overcome that

[Augustiniak]

15 minutes ago, Larz said:

His scripts suck ass.  They are getting very little from Wilson, Williams, Lazard Corley and Gipson. The TEs are just blockers.   It’s just clunky. The timing and communication is off. 
 

i think we see a different offense against Denver.  Just beat the cheaters anyway you can and then regroup after the mini bye. 
 

 

One thing yesterday was that the 2nd half was different from the first half and it seemed as if the offense in particular got some of that preseason rust off.  The SF game was punted from the start, the first half vs Tenn was again too conservative but then rodgers started throwing and that opened up the passing game.  Hopefully it continues to evolve.  Clearly they trust allen, he’s very good already.  

Also yesterday it was apparent that the offense has as much if not more talent than the defense and that the defense isn’t as stout as it’s been in recent years.  Maybe guys like taylor III come in and make an impact but this may finally be the year they realize they can’t win 16-13 games.

[Asymmetrical]

15 minutes ago, Larz said:

His scripts suck ass.  They are getting very little from Wilson, Williams, Lazard Corley and Gipson. The TEs are just blockers.   It’s just clunky. The timing and communication is off. 
 

i think we see a different offense against Denver.  Just beat the cheaters anyway you can and then regroup after the mini bye. 
 

 

the play clock was an issue last year.  I suspect the bolded parts are largely because Hackett isn't super organized and on top of the operation.

[Claymation]

43 minutes ago, Biggs said:

He lost me on Hackett is calling plays.  Does anyone believe Hackett is tuned into Rodger helmet during games?  Rodgers doesn’t need another distraction.

Rodgers did say they were having issues with the play coming in late, hence the delay of game and the Time Outs.

[jamesr]

1 hour ago, doitny said:

they expected us to beat them 40-3. then they would complain about giving up the 3 points. lol

this is the NFL today, especially early on. any team can beat anyone. you hear some guys here worried about Minn because they beat the 49ers who killed us. does anyone think the Vikings are going to destroy us? not me.

And it's probably the same people complaining who argued against us going after Carr because he's a JAG ... who's team currently leads the league in scoring. 

[Trotter]

My apologies as I can’t type this early.

I still think @Joe W. Namath is nuts but I meant to say I am leaning with his Jets fans are the best script not jets fans being the best

oh and Cimini is still a fool

[Augustiniak]

4 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Rodgers did say they were having issues with the play coming in late, hence the delay of game and the Time Outs.

Only team that can’t get a play in time.  

[Gaffneycatch81]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

Two things can be true at once, the offense is clearly improved over being Zach-led with no O-line, but it doesn’t look or feel “good” as yet either.

Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder: When a person is repeatedly traumatized by abuse or neglect in their primary relationships resulting in them being unable to recognize when they DO have consistent care and love, and are unable to feel safe and relax in relationships.

You guys are like the trauma survivor, constantly making unreasonable and unrealistic demands of your friends or partners in an unconscious attempt to “test” their love and/or prove to yourself they’re going let you down or abandon you.

A good offense doesn’t need to look like the greatest show on turf every week. Rodgers has been good. He’ll have games that are better, and he’ll have a few that are worse. This is what it looks like to have a trustworthy quarterback on your team. 

[Bobby816]

It's not even about the creativity for me. It's about just getting your best players the ball in the ways the best suits there skill set.

Stop just running the ball darn near every 1st down and since the D knows it it barely goes anywhere making it to where we only have 2 downs to get 10 yards.

Use GW more. Take some shots down field. I know we did try this and a couple guys messed up. AR over throwing an open Lazard and Ruckert just stopping his route.

But I see that when we decide to throw on drives they're WAY more productive. GW and MW are better than most CBs and Ss, 50/50 balls are more like 75/25. Take those odds more often.

We did run the ball better in the 2nd half. But that's bc we started throwing more.

 

In reality I really hate the gameplan we've used the last 2 weeks. Both teams had a great pass rush and a good front 7. If there was a weakness to both teams it was their secondary. And both games we came out just trying to run. When that's the Ds strength. Attack the teams weakness on D.

Unfortunately I don't see this changing. That trying to establish the run early will be something we try and do every game.

Hopefully AR audibles out of dumb Hackett plays more often

[rldev]

10 minutes ago, Claymation said:

Rodgers did say they were having issues with the play coming in late, hence the delay of game and the Time Outs.

That may be the case, but Rodgers looked unaware at times concerning the clock.

[T0mShane]

25 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Good call, the Packers went 26-7 over 2 years running this "conception of Football". 

They went 8-9 in 2022-23, the year Rodgers decided that running Matt LaFleur’s offense was beneath him. 

[GKnight83]

7 hours ago, BornJetsFan1983 said:

 

 

 

How 'bout a little creativity in writing.  Cimini is writing tweets as if Zach Wilson was still the QB.