Bronx Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 The New York Jets beat the Tennessee Titans, 24-17, in their Week 2 contest at Nissan Stadium. Statistics will always help determine who played well (or not). So will the eye test. But why not get a little bit deeper with some help from the analytics folks at Pro Football Focus? With that, here are the five highest-graded players from the Jets (1-1) defense against the Titans (0-2😞 5, DL Javon Kinlaw Tennessee Titans quarterback Will Levis (8) is pressured by New York Jets defensive tackle Javon Kinlaw (54) during their game at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Denny Simmons / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 53.7. 4. DE Micheal Clemons EAST RUTHERFORD, NEW JERSEY - DECEMBER 03: Micheal Clemons #72 of the New York Jets waits in the tunnel before the game against the Atlanta falcons during their game at MetLife Stadium on December 03, 2023 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)© Getty Images PFF grade: 51.5. 3. LB Tak McKinley Aug 24, 2024; East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA; New York Jets defensive end Takkarist McKinley (93) reacts to a defensive play against the New York Giants during the second half at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Rich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports© Rich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports PFF grade: 42.2. 2. SS Chuck Clark New York Jets safety Chuck Clark (36) trips up Tennessee Titans running back Tony Pollard (20) during the fourth quarter at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Andrew Nelles / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 41.9. 1. CB Sauce Gardner Tennessee Titans wide receiver Calvin Ridley (0) heads for the end zone pylon as New York Jets cornerback Sauce Gardner (1) tries to close during their game at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Denny Simmons / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 36.5. @Barry McCockinner If you have comparison stats, please welcome to share. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 3 minutes ago, Bronx said: The New York Jets beat the Tennessee Titans, 24-17, in their Week 2 contest at Nissan Stadium. Statistics will always help determine who played well (or not). So will the eye test. But why not get a little bit deeper with some help from the analytics folks at Pro Football Focus? With that, here are the five highest-graded players from the Jets (1-1) defense against the Titans (0-2😞 5, DL Javon Kinlaw Tennessee Titans quarterback Will Levis (8) is pressured by New York Jets defensive tackle Javon Kinlaw (54) during their game at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Denny Simmons / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 53.7. 4. DE Micheal Clemons EAST RUTHERFORD, NEW JERSEY - DECEMBER 03: Micheal Clemons #72 of the New York Jets waits in the tunnel before the game against the Atlanta falcons during their game at MetLife Stadium on December 03, 2023 in East Rutherford, New Jersey. (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)© Getty Images PFF grade: 51.5. 3. LB Tak McKinley Aug 24, 2024; East Rutherford, New Jersey, USA; New York Jets defensive end Takkarist McKinley (93) reacts to a defensive play against the New York Giants during the second half at MetLife Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Rich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports© Rich Barnes-USA TODAY Sports PFF grade: 42.2. 2. SS Chuck Clark New York Jets safety Chuck Clark (36) trips up Tennessee Titans running back Tony Pollard (20) during the fourth quarter at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Andrew Nelles / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 41.9. 1. CB Sauce Gardner Tennessee Titans wide receiver Calvin Ridley (0) heads for the end zone pylon as New York Jets cornerback Sauce Gardner (1) tries to close during their game at Nissan Stadium in Nashville, Tenn., Sunday, Sept. 15, 2024.© Denny Simmons / The Tennessean / USA TODAY NETWORK via Imagn Images PFF grade: 36.5. @Barry McCockinner If you have comparison stats, please welcome to share. yes, I can make up stats to compare. I made the site so anyone can do it. see link in signature. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted September 18 Popular Post Share Posted September 18 Sauce had a bad day. Lets hope he has a better day tomorrow. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: yes, I can make up stats to compare. I made the site so anyone can do it. see link in signature. I get it. However, Sauce has been consistently bad in two games. What grade do you have for him from your sources? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 5 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: yes, I can make up stats to compare. I made the site so anyone can do it. see link in signature. CC: @jgb 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I told y’all Sauce has been mid, so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I told y’all Sauce has been mid, so far. Would you trade Sauce for two 1st rounders? He is falling into the "best in the nation" category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 pff = Hot Garbage 🤮🤮🤮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 PFF being garbage or not. Sauce had a tough game last week. Wasn't particularly sharp in week 1 either. I'm sure he'll figure it out - let's just hope it's sooner than later./ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 26 minutes ago, Bronx said: I get it. However, Sauce has been consistently bad in two games. What grade do you have for him from your sources? I am not agreeing or disagreeing with the stats. I assume they're made up garbage so why spend any time discussing them? I disagree with the idea that PFF should be taken seriously because they have made stats up in the past and were caught red handed. They lost all credibility that moment and should not be taken seriously yet they're now making up for 64.8% of all threads on JN according to PFF. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Low grades ? PFF legit now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, Larz said: Low grades ? PFF legit now Please provide legitimate statistics. I am confident that you, with your extensive knowledge of football, are the person to share these stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 23 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: PFF being garbage or not. Sauce had a tough game last week. Wasn't particularly sharp in week 1 either. I'm sure he'll figure it out - let's just hope it's sooner than later./ He will not make it to the probowl this year at the current pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 minute ago, Bronx said: He will not make it to the probowl this year at the current pace. I think due to the first two weeks he's probably already lost being "all-pro" again. I would say still a good shot at the pro-bowl, I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I thought Kinlaw had a good game. Not sure I agree with them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: CC: @jgb Woody does not deserve us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Perfect coverage on a deep ball that miraculously went through the DBs hands 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 12 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: Perfect coverage on a deep ball that miraculously went through the DBs hands I think perfect would have been Sauce locating the ball and making a play on it. He didn't. Maybe it was because he saw Clark out of his peripheral and thought he had a better shot at the INT? Either way, good position to prevent the catch but didn't actually prevent the catch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revisandbutthead Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 53 minutes ago, Bronx said: He will not make it to the probowl this year at the current pace. I think unless he has a really terrible season, he will still make the Pro Bowl because so much of that voting is just name recognition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 Just now, revisandbutthead said: I think unless he has a really terrible season, he will still make the Pro Bowl because so much of that voting is just name recognition Nice nick and nice meeting you as well. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 19 minutes ago, AFJF said: Maybe it was because he saw Clark out of his peripheral and thought he had a better shot at the INT? im not buying this. Sause has 2 INTs in 35 games. he had none last year. i think this is how he normally plays the ball so even if Clark wasnt there i dont think he turns around. hes just not a turn around type of player. or he would have more INTs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Sauce doesn’t tackle so if he’s not locking down, it’s a big problem. Seeing him live, it looked almost as if he was moving at 3/4 speed or something. As if he’s so sure he’s not gonna get beat he doesn’t go 100%. Hopefully he’s not managing an injury. NE is definitely going to test the CBs in run support on the edges this week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JiFtheOracle Posted September 18 Popular Post Share Posted September 18 How is Clemons on this list if he’s actually kinda Hutchinson? Lmfao pff is so dumb 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Sauce didn’t have a bad week 1. I think he was credited with one catch given up? He was not good on Sunday though. Very bad in fact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said: How is Clemons on this list if he’s actually kinda Hutchinson? Lmfao pff is so dumb and your counterpoint? Stop pointing and provide backup data. I am not defending PFF, but would love to read your reliable and credible information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 51 minutes ago, doitny said: im not buying this. Sause has 2 INTs in 35 games. he had none last year. i think this is how he normally plays the ball so even if Clark wasnt there i dont think he turns around. hes just not a turn around type of player. or he would have more INTs. PBU's aren't as big as interceptions (obviously), but you don't get 31 of them in two all-pro seasons if you don't turn around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green&white Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 If I remember correctly, Sauce didn't start last year all that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 4 hours ago, Bronx said: Would you trade Sauce for two 1st rounders? He is falling into the "best in the nation" category. lol, that’s a bit much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted September 19 Popular Post Share Posted September 19 So, according to PFF, Michael Clemons was one of our 5 worst defenders on Sunday. And also according to PFF, he is second in the league in disruptive pressure rate through two games. So either his first game was off the charts great, or PFF is hot garbage. I know which one I am going with. 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, Lith said: So, according to PFF, Michael Clemons was one of our 5 worst defenders on Sunday. And also according to PFF, he is second in the league in disruptive pressure rate through two games. So either his first game was off the charts great, or PFF is hot garbage. I know which one I am going with. I love that the Clemons meme gets shared with this 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: lol, that’s a bit much JD would once again be hailed as a hero if he manages to fleece another team. I am rooting for him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 2 hours ago, Bronx said: and your counterpoint? Stop pointing and provide backup data. I am not defending PFF, but would love to read your reliable and credible information. Counter point to what? They are the ones who compared his “pressure disruption rate” to Hutchinson and then proceed to grade him as a bottom 5 defender with an overall grade of 50 or whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 4 hours ago, Bronx said: He will not make it to the probowl this year at the current pace. What else you got Nostradamus? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 Sauce seemingly spent much of the summer working on his golf swing… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted September 19 Author Share Posted September 19 1 hour ago, Jet Nut said: What else you got Nostradamus? We are not winning the superbowl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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