Some Thoughts Moving Forward

[Smashmouth]

After the first 3 weeks

Give the team time to get used to one another there are a lot of new faces it takes time. The SF reaction was typical Jets fan and we are not Typical anymore !!

Keep CJ Mosely off the field our LB's looked fantastic running all over the field and not shying away from the tough tackles and blockers like Mosely does.

The Coaching staff has FINALLY made Adjustments on both sides of the ball . Biggest one that impressed tonight was The Blitzes and them finally realizing when you have lightning fast LB's you can blitz 

While he's a bit of a loose cannon sometimes Clark can be a big play machine at the LOS 

Loved Breece and Brealon in the 2 back sets I was thinking about that before the season started and its going to be huge since it adds an extra blocker and creates mismatch potential and keeps the defense honest ,

Team is heading in the right direction and the most encouraging thing is we have still not gotten it all together just yet. The Potential is off the charts 

 

Go JETS !!!

[nycdan]

All great stuff.

Two things concern me at the moment:

• Obviously getting Moses back.  Losing a 2nd OT would be really bad.
• Penalties.  Gotta clean that crap up.

But seeing guys like Lazard and Conklin ball out and even Ruckert and Gipson getting in on the action was fantastic.  Teams can take away GW.  Or they can take away Hall.  But they can't take everyone away.

[Smashmouth]

1 minute ago, nycdan said:

All great stuff.

Two things concern me at the moment:

• Obviously getting Moses back.  Losing a 2nd OT would be really bad.
• Penalties.  Gotta clean that crap up.

But seeing guys like Lazard and Conklin ball out and even Ruckert and Gipson getting in on the action was fantastic.  Teams can take away GW.  Or they can take away Hall.  But they can't take everyone away.

exactly ! 

yes the Penalties need to stop especially the stupid ones. 

Moses hurt tonight just showed our depth Olu will be fine but this year I would much rather see him filling in once in a while rather than taking over a job due to injury. Not that I dont think he can handle it because he certainly can but I would much rather have the Depth situation and him filling in as needed or giving the older guys a break when needed 

[RevisIsland610]

I knew this team would only get better as the season moved along, especially the offense. It's why I didn't overreact to the SanFran loss. That was a worst case way to start the season. My biggest overall complaint with this defense is that they never blitz. That was so refreshing tonight. Keep doing it. 

[Dunnie]

I'm reserving judgement till.after the Bills game.

Last night was a great win in a game the team was supposed to win.

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[Doggin94it]

So far the team has looked bad against a great SF team, decent against a decent Tennessee team, and dominant against a bad patriots roster. That could be about shaking off rust and getting healthy on offense, or it could be about the opponent. 

That said, it's been a loooooong time since we not only beat the teams we were supposed to beat but dominated them, especially with an offense that still looks like it hasn't hit its ceiling yet. We've got to maintain this level of play against better teams than the pats moving forward before I get too excited over where we're at, but this was a very encouraging win. Gotta keep it going next week

[Jets0712]

2-1 after 3. According to plan…..



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[Biggs]

Jets fans have to buy into the reality that the Jets have a well balanced team with a highly skilled older QB who while in decline is still highly skilled.   It’s okay not to pretend that the Titans are just going to drive the field for a touchdown on a good Jets D just because they moved the ball down the field.  Teams bend and don’t give up TD’s in the NFL all the time. We don’t have to pretend the Pats aren’t in full rebuild and don’t present any real mismatch.challenges.  

We should expect the team to stack wins against inferior competition.  That’s what good teams do.  It’ not unusual for playoff teams and SB contenders to actually do this.  Yes we can expect a stinker against a bad opponent and lose a couple of close ones to very good teams.  

While I have learned to hate the Jets I still have my long term memory in tact.  I remember a good Jets team or two that actually won the games they were supposed to win and had a stinker or two in tough spots but also came up big in some tough spots.  

Call up your former Pats fans friends and ask them how to act like you’ve been there before. 

What the Jets did last night is normal.  A good team beating up a bad team on the road.

[UnknownJetFan]

6 hours ago, nycdan said:

All great stuff.

Two things concern me at the moment:

• Obviously getting Moses back.  Losing a 2nd OT would be really bad.
• Penalties.  Gotta clean that crap up.

But seeing guys like Lazard and Conklin ball out and even Ruckert and Gipson getting in on the action was fantastic.  Teams can take away GW.  Or they can take away Hall.  But they can't take everyone away.

Effort penalties are one thing but the Olineman hitting the guy on the ground and Charles wapping the guy on the helmet are dumb penalties they have to stop or if done in close games we will lose some because of that.

[static14]

38 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

I'm reserving judgement till.after the Bills game.

Last night was a great win in a game the team was supposed to win.

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I understand the reservation but they used to lose "supposed to win" games left and right.

[JiFtheOracle]

The Jets are very well coached Football team.

[Dunnie]

The Jets are very well coached Football team.

Totally agree well coached into the most or close to the most penalties in the league.

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[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Dunnie said:

Totally agree well coached into the most or close to the most penalties in the league.

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Do some research homey, Jets were bottom 5 in the league in penalties entering the game.  Pats too.  Jets had 8 flags, Pats had 5.  They still wont be on the top half of penalties in the league after this week is done.

What you should be focused on instead of inaccurate information is how the team has responded since week 1 and the massive improvements you're seeing from the DL, LB play, to the OL to the offense in general which to make such a drastic changes and improvement playing 3 games in 11 days, speaks to 1 thing....great coaching.

 

[Dunnie]

Do some research homey, Jets were bottom 5 in the league in penalties entering the game.  Pats too.  Jets had 8 flags, Pats had 5.  They still wont be on the top half of penalties in the league after this week is done.
What you should be focused on instead of inaccurate information is how the team has responded since week 1 and the massive improvements you're seeing from the DL, LB play, to the OL to the offense in general which to make such a drastic changes and improvement playing 3 games in 11 weeks, speaks to 1 thing....great coaching.
 

Fair enough .. some bone head penalties ... 7th in penalty yards against. Valid point .. much better than week 1.



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[JiFtheOracle]

1 minute ago, Dunnie said:

Fair enough .. some bone head penalties ... 7th in penalty yards against. Valid point .. much better than week 1.



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Are you getting that after last nights game?  You understand that only 2 teams have played 3 games? 

[Dunnie]

Are you getting that after last nights game?  You understand that only 2 teams have played 3 games? 

Nope that is what I got after a complete fail at sorting this spreadsheet ... You are spot on here .. I stand corrected...

https://www.nflpenalties.com/#google_vignette

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[rangerous]

41 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Do some research homey, Jets were bottom 5 in the league in penalties entering the game.  Pats too.  Jets had 8 flags, Pats had 5.  They still wont be on the top half of penalties in the league after this week is done.

What you should be focused on instead of inaccurate information is how the team has responded since week 1 and the massive improvements you're seeing from the DL, LB play, to the OL to the offense in general which to make such a drastic changes and improvement playing 3 games in 11 weeks, speaks to 1 thing....great coaching.

 

It’s not the number of penalties it’s the stupid one.  Simpson didn’t have to pancake the patsie player after the play was dead. Charles didn’t have to swat the patsie player right in front of a reg.  Reed didn’t have to grab the receiver on what was an uncatchable pass.  And just how does anyone having to call a time out to prevent a play clock penalty?  These penalties are all about coaching and it’s on saleh.

 

44 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Do some research homey, Jets were bottom 5 in the league in penalties entering the game.  Pats too.  Jets had 8 flags, Pats had 5.  They still wont be on the top half of penalties in the league after this week is done.

What you should be focused on instead of inaccurate information is how the team has responded since week 1 and the massive improvements you're seeing from the DL, LB play, to the OL to the offense in general which to make such a drastic changes and improvement playing 3 games in 11 weeks, speaks to 1 thing....great coaching.

 

 

[RutgersJetFan]

:emails Saleh:

[Dcat]

7 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

After the first 3 weeks

Give the team time to get used to one another there are a lot of new faces it takes time. The SF reaction was typical Jets fan and we are not Typical anymore !!

Keep CJ Mosely off the field our LB's looked fantastic running all over the field and not shying away from the tough tackles and blockers like Mosely does.

The Coaching staff has FINALLY made Adjustments on both sides of the ball . Biggest one that impressed tonight was The Blitzes and them finally realizing when you have lightning fast LB's you can blitz 

While he's a bit of a loose cannon sometimes Clark can be a big play machine at the LOS 

Loved Breece and Brealon in the 2 back sets I was thinking about that before the season started and its going to be huge since it adds an extra blocker and creates mismatch potential and keeps the defense honest ,

Team is heading in the right direction and the most encouraging thing is we have still not gotten it all together just yet. The Potential is off the charts 

 

Go JETS !!!

Jets defense is so much better out there without Mosley that it's not even funny any more. 
So ....  one more time....      F You Mike Maccagnan, wherever you are.  Probably serving coffee in a dunkin.   

[shawn306]

It was nice seeing a professional offense for a change. I think Rodgers might have seen Cowherd’s comments and thought to himself “watch this”. Awesome job.

It was nice seeing the Jets blitz more than they usually do. I think a lot of that was because the Pats OL is shaky and their receivers stink. Good job though taking away what the Pats do best right now and that is run the ball.

stupid penalties need to stop like yesterday. Charles on the punt, Simpson on a play get flagged for 15 Yards. Totally unacceptable.

10 days to get ready for Denver

[slats]

8 minutes ago, rangerous said:

It’s not the number of penalties it’s the stupid one.  Simpson didn’t have to pancake the patsie player after the play was dead. Charles didn’t have to swat the patsie player right in front of a reg.  Reed didn’t have to grab the receiver on what was an uncatchable pass.  And just how does anyone having to call a time out to prevent a play clock penalty?  These penalties are all about coaching and it’s on saleh.

 

 

The only ones there that really concern me are the wasted time outs. The rest were all players being aggressive. Yes, they need to be smarter, but erring on the side of aggression is okay with me. Reed does that a lot, that time it was obvious but you’ll see plenty more of it. Charles got caught retaliating. I don’t think we’ll see penalties like that or Simpson’s again soon. 

[jamesr]

GW5 is the first 1st round pick WR to catch a TD pass from Aaron Rodgers.

Let that sink in for a moment.

[slimjasi]

14 minutes ago, jamesr said:

GW5 is the first 1st round pick WR to catch a TD pass from Aaron Rodgers.

Let that sink in for a moment.

I knew this when it happened because people were talking about the fact that GW would eventually become the first 1st round WR to catch a TD from AR LAST year. 

But I still can't believe it. That's just wild. 

[Jetsfan80]

37 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

:emails Saleh:

He’ll view it when he wakes up at about 1 PM.

[frankiepapa]

All great stuff.
Two things concern me at the moment:

• Obviously getting Moses back.  Losing a 2nd OT would be really bad.
• Penalties.  Gotta clean that crap up.

But seeing guys like Lazard and Conklin ball out and even Ruckert and Gipson getting in on the action was fantastic.  Teams can take away GW.  Or they can take away Hall.  But they can't take everyone away.

The irv Charles penalty, punching a guy like that is absurd...right in front of 2 refs...thankfully it didn't really cost us..

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[HighPitch]

The last time the jets blew out the pats was wayyyyyyyy back in 1993!

[bicketybam]

Saleh is always going to take bullets from the Zach stans who fault him for not being able to squeeze a diamond out of a puddle of diarrhea.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, rangerous said:

It’s not the number of penalties it’s the stupid one.  Simpson didn’t have to pancake the patsie player after the play was dead. Charles didn’t have to swat the patsie player right in front of a reg.  Reed didn’t have to grab the receiver on what was an uncatchable pass.  And just how does anyone having to call a time out to prevent a play clock penalty?  These penalties are all about coaching and it’s on saleh.

 

 

Tgjs take seems excessive to me.  The delay stuff is 100% on Rodgers IMO.  He is calling audibles left and right and shooting hand signals.  The Reed call was pretty ticky tack but that is handfighting.  Like holding it is on every play.  Have to do your best and let the refs sort it.  

[Jet_Engine1]

2 hours ago, JiFtheOracle said:

The Jets are very well coached Football team.

Considering the ONLY real issues last night were penalties and Delay of game/Timeout issues, I would say... lets let that one breathe for a bit.

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, rangerous said:

It’s not the number of penalties it’s the stupid one.  Simpson didn’t have to pancake the patsie player after the play was dead. Charles didn’t have to swat the patsie player right in front of a reg.  Reed didn’t have to grab the receiver on what was an uncatchable pass.  And just how does anyone having to call a time out to prevent a play clock penalty?  These penalties are all about coaching and it’s on saleh.

 

 

ummmmm, yeah no, disagree, they're not on coaching at all.  Coaching penalties are more presnap or substitution related, not having enough men on the field, having too many, illegal formations, etc, etc.  When sh*t that happens after the ball is snapped in the heat of the moment, sorry bud, that's on the player, not the coach.  

And the delay of game stuff is clearly on Rodgers.  He's got to speed up his internal clock if he's going to call everything at the LOS.  You could see it on his face, he was frustrated w/ himself, not the coaching staff.

[JiFtheOracle]

6 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Considering the ONLY real issues last night were penalties and Delay of game/Timeout issues, I would say... lets let that one breathe for a bit.

As I said above, the delay of game and timeouts were clearly on Rodgers.  He's been struggling w/ it every single game so far and it's because he's up there reading the D and signaling the play at the LOS.  He just needs to speed up his internal clock.

It's silly to me that this is what you're all focused on as if it's damning on the coaching staff and not the 180 degree turn they made stopping the run, getting more of the offense involved, changing up the play calls, letting Rodgers cook, having better coverage, etc. etc. etc. etc.  That is coaching.  Post snap penalties?  What do want the coaches to do, play the game too?

 

 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

2 hours ago, UnknownJetFan said:

Effort penalties are one thing but the Olineman hitting the guy on the ground and Charles wapping the guy on the helmet are dumb penalties they have to stop or if done in close games we will lose some because of that.

Those two were the bad ones. That's 30 yards. The one that was unsure was the shoulder tackle on Sherwood. That was absolutely BS.

[Kalcott]

The blitzing was great see. Need to keep it going against a Denver offense with a rookie QB!

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He’ll view it when he wakes up at about 1 PM.

More like, he'll check it at turn when he's getting some more Miller Lite for the back 9.

[Jet_Engine1]

44 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

As I said above, the delay of game and timeouts were clearly on Rodgers.  He's been struggling w/ it every single game so far and it's because he's up there reading the D and signaling the play at the LOS.  He just needs to speed up his internal clock.

It's silly to me that this is what you're all focused on as if it's damning on the coaching staff and not the 180 degree turn they made stopping the run, getting more of the offense involved, changing up the play calls, letting Rodgers cook, having better coverage, etc. etc. etc. etc.  That is coaching.  Post snap penalties?  What do want the coaches to do, play the game too?

 

 

"Focused on"? No. That was the best game I have seen the Jets play in a LOOOONG time. The score wasn't even indicative of how dominant that win was last night, it felt almost like a scrimmage game, tbh. I haven't seen a Jets team physically and mentally dominate an opponent like that since probably 1998. It felt like the Patriots were never really even in the game after the first quarter. 

 

So. This is what it's like to root for a team with superior, HOF level QB'ing. I like it. Makes me dislike Patriots and Chiefs (and Packers) fans even more. Those entitled ****s got to watch elite level Football Geniuses carve up and abuse defenses on the regular for years at a time, just expecting wins because of who was running the show and took it for granted, while we've watched them run out JV squad QB's hoping they just don't screw it up. The fact that they won 7 games last year with who was under center is almost a miracle. Remember when Indianapolis lost Manning? A team that was a perennial PO team had to start Curtis Painter (Tank Commander) and were the worst team in the league. Thats the impact this level of player brings. 

 

We're all so ****ed up from the Jets past, we're hyper-examining everything. Thats all.