More Cowbell Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I have to say, last night was the best performance I have ever seen from a Jets QB in my lifetime. Rodgers was playing out of his mind. You almost wanted to see the Pats D collapse the pocket so you could watch Rodgers break contain and make an eye popping throw while on the run. His accuracy while running was staggering. There were some times where he and Wilson weren't on the same page, but that will get better. This is the first game I have seen where a QB clearly put the Jets on his back and rode the Jets to a win. My question is, can Rodgers sustain this all year. He was clearly the reason the Jets won. Had Zach been the QB, we would have gotten run over. Also, was happy with the play of the OL. The combo of Rodgers and this line is good enough. The Pats were getting to Rodgers, but it didn't matter. Lastly, The D has shown up. The Jets shut down the run and harrased Brisset all game. First complete game by the Jets in I don't know how long 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Gotta think no, he's gonna have a stinker at some point. It may not matter if we stack enough wins though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeCantDraftGoodQBs Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I agree it’s the best Jets QB play I have since I was a kid watching Broadway Joe lead our Jets to their Super Bowl III victory. I literally forgot what it’s like to watch a great QB who can throw very accurate precision passes after watching Zach for a couple of years. The answer to your question is yes . . . but only if the Jets can pass protect for AR in the same the way that Brady got the necessary pass preotection that allowed him to play until 43 yrs old and win 2 super bowls at ages 41 & 43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 He will be a finalist but his skinny calf will keep him from winning it. And his Egypt trip. And the Kennedy rumors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Just need him to play the rest of the season and take it from there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballLove Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Green Bay didn't believe in investing high draft picks in skill positions. AR8 played a really good game last night. That 2 yard pass to Garrett Wilson was the first TD pass from Rodgers to a first round draft pick in over 20 years. You read that right. Will be fun to see how Rodgers does with Garrett as the season progresses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 This might be the first time that AR has a plethora of skill players and a really solid D in his entire career. Dude might go bananas on opposing defenses just to prove a point of how much he could have done if he got that much support in GB. I gotta believe that he has a little resentment towards GB for not drafting him better pieces over the years. He may even feel like he would have had more rings and more respect if he had gotten better support throughout his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 28 minutes ago, jetspenguin said: This might be the first time that AR has a plethora of skill players and a really solid D in his entire career. Dude might go bananas on opposing defenses just to prove a point of how much he could have done if he got that much support in GB. I gotta believe that he has a little resentment towards GB for not drafting him better pieces over the years. He may even feel like he would have had more rings and more respect if he had gotten better support throughout his career. Tell me this team wasn't stacked https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2014_roster.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Considering the OL still sucks and JD has failed us again, probably not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I don’t know but I will say that Rodgers’ performance is sustainable unlike the once-every-ten-games “flashes” from rubbish QBs many have been touting for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, FootballLove said: Green Bay didn't believe in investing high draft picks in skill positions. AR8 played a really good game last night. That 2 yard pass to Garrett Wilson was the first TD pass from Rodgers to a first round draft pick in over 20 years. You read that right. Will be fun to see how Rodgers does with Garrett as the season progresses! First round *wide receiver 😉 Don't forget good ol Marcedes Lewis! https://www.nfl.com/videos/aaron-rodgers-shrugs-off-defender-to-find-marcedes-lewis-for-td Edit: or you could qualify it by saying "first round pick by his team", I suppose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Seeing as he has been playing at an MVP level for almost 20 years I am going to say yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, FootballLove said: Green Bay didn't believe in investing high draft picks in skill positions. AR8 played a really good game last night. That 2 yard pass to Garrett Wilson was the first TD pass from Rodgers to a first round draft pick in over 20 years. You read that right. Will be fun to see how Rodgers does with Garrett as the season progresses! That’s the benefit of having a HOF QB — you can invest elsewhere because he can spin straw into gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 To address the actual topic... I don't think we will see the D and Offense both dominate in EVERY game this year. We will face a few other teams, like the Dolphins (who can run really well and take advantage of our system weaknesses) or Texans (who are just damn good) who will beat the defense sometimes and possibly put Rodgers in less comfortable offensive situations and scenarios. Vice versa, a few teams will probably play much sounder defense than the Pats last night. It was very out of character for them to be missing so many tackles underneath. The Steelers are the big one, but the Bills defense looks pretty tight so far too despite getting carved up at times by Kyler week 1. AR8 isn't as mobile as Kyler, who oftened seemed to be beating the Bills with his feet... Looking down the schedule though, not too many teams intimidate me if the team keeps playing like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 2 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: To address the actual topic... I don't think we will see the D and Offense both dominate in EVERY game this year. We will face a few other teams, like the Dolphins (who can run really well and take advantage of our system weaknesses) or Texans (who are just damn good) who will beat the defense sometimes and possibly put Rodgers in less comfortable offensive situations and scenarios. Vice versa, a few teams will probably play much sounder defense than the Pats last night. It was very out of character for them to be missing so many tackles underneath. The Steelers are the big one, but the Bills defense looks pretty tight so far too despite getting carved up at times by Kyler week 1. AR8 isn't as mobile as Kyler, who oftened seemed to be beating the Bills with his feet... Looking down the schedule though, not too many teams intimidate me if the team keeps playing like this. Yes. Skylar Thompson terrifies me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 6 minutes ago, bicketybam said: Yes. Skylar Thompson terrifies me. I have a feeling Tyler Huntley will be the guy there before long. He didn't look too bad leading that run-heavy Ravens offense a couple years back. I didn't say we'd lose to the phins either, just that they will put up a better fight than the Patriots just did lol. Given the Jets recent track record of poor run defense and defense against screens / YAC plays, I don't think it's a crazy take. They've mostly kicked our ass when Tua has been healthy, and would worry me more than the Bills if he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 3 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: I have a feeling Tyler Huntley will be the guy there before long. He didn't look too bad leading that run-heavy Ravens offense a couple years back. I didn't say we'd lose to the phins either, just that they will put up a better fight than the Patriots just did lol. Given the Jets recent track record of poor run defense and defense against screens / YAC plays, I don't think it's a crazy take. They've mostly kicked our ass when Tua has been healthy, and would worry me more than the Bills if he was. I get it. The Jets can only beat bad teams and that won't change until we beat a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Rogers Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 14 minutes ago, Mr. Rogers said: Looking down the schedule though, not too many teams intimidate me if the team keeps playing like this. 1 minute ago, bicketybam said: I get it. The Jets can only beat bad teams and that won't change until we beat a good one. Sheesh. You really want to make this a pessimistic take from me, huh? Just trying to be realistic, really. Only 2 teams in history have gone through a whole regular season without any slip-up weeks. I'm definitely feeling confident in this team right now. Just trying to take a look at a few future matchups that I expect to be more challenging than last night. Given this team beat the eagles and nearly the chiefs last year, I believe we can beat anyone on our day, but now is not the time to start taking matchups for granted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 34 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Tell me this team wasn't stacked https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2014_roster.htm lol I think we can safely assume that Aaron remembers what Aaron WANTS to remember and it benefits him more to not remember the one team he has had in 19 years that was "stacked" and use that for motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 minute ago, Mr. Rogers said: Sheesh. You really want to make this a pessimistic take from me, huh? Just trying to be realistic, really. Only 2 teams in history have gone through a whole regular season without any slip-up weeks. I'm definitely feeling confident in this team right now. Just trying to take a look at a few future matchups that I expect to be more challenging than last night. Given this team beat the eagles and nearly the chiefs last year, I believe we can beat anyone on our day, but now is not the time to start taking matchups for granted... We did slip up. Week 1. That's all we are allowed. 16-1 incoming!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecuadorian Jet Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 4 hours ago, More Cowbell said: I have to say, last night was the best performance I have ever seen from a Jets QB in my lifetime. Rodgers was playing out of his mind. You almost wanted to see the Pats D collapse the pocket so you could watch Rodgers break contain and make an eye popping throw while on the run. His accuracy while running was staggering. There were some times where he and Wilson weren't on the same page, but that will get better. This is the first game I have seen where a QB clearly put the Jets on his back and rode the Jets to a win. My question is, can Rodgers sustain this all year. He was clearly the reason the Jets won. Had Zach been the QB, we would have gotten run over. Also, was happy with the play of the OL. The combo of Rodgers and this line is good enough. The Pats were getting to Rodgers, but it didn't matter. Lastly, The D has shown up. The Jets shut down the run and harrased Brisset all game. First complete game by the Jets in I don't know how long I think the answer is a resounding Yes, as long as the line can protect him at an elite level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 47 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Considering the OL still sucks and JD has failed us again, probably not. To be honest, the pass protection was spotty yesterday, but it didn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold's Forehead Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 47 minutes ago, jgb said: That’s the benefit of having a HOF QB — you can invest elsewhere because he can spin straw into gold That's another benefit of having a HOF QB. It hides the fact that you invest in defense, yet get sh!t results out of said investment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 10 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: To be honest, the pass protection was spotty yesterday, but it didn't matter. It wasn’t spotty, no QB is going to have an entirely clean pocket on every play. They gave up some pressures to a good defense, but Rodgers made it not matter. We have had a big string of solid corners too being able to take Wilson away, and next week is no different with Surtain. But soon things are going to open up even more for the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 18 minutes ago, funaz said: It wasn’t spotty, no QB is going to have an entirely clean pocket on every play. They gave up some pressures to a good defense, but Rodgers made it not matter. We have had a big string of solid corners too being able to take Wilson away, and next week is no different with Surtain. But soon things are going to open up even more for the offense. So your first paragraph pretty much said what I did. So what was your point? Rogers was pressured, he took hits after throws, he was sacked twice I think, Rodgers also scrambled because the pocket had collapsed, but as I said in my post, none of it mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 1 hour ago, Darnold's Forehead said: That's another benefit of having a HOF QB. It hides the fact that you invest in defense, yet get sh!t results out of said investment. You mean GB? You are right because GB defense have been garbage when Rodgers was there. Let’s hope we have the magic formula now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeet Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Odds currently #5 in the NFL to win MVP - If he can continue to play at the level he played last night, he has as good of a chance, as any, to actually win it. Lots of season to go, but most of us haven’t seen a QB with this type of talent level, in a Jets uniform. And he’s 40. Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtnelson Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 With QB play so far on a down note this season maybe there will actually be a non-QB MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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