So who would you pencil in as our new HC GM.

[Maynard13]

It's inevitable.  Its not to early to think about this NOW.  This team is pure garbage.  We have some good players, but they are terribly coached and JD hasn't helped matters either.  This OL is older than Sodom and Gomorrah. It will crumble and already has started to.  The DL is a JOKE. No pass rush no stopping the run. Pathetic.  The offense is boring and insultingly basic and ineffective.  Both Saleh and JD need to go after the season.  Rodgers will wave bye bye after the season. He wont be sticking around for this circus.  We will be in rebuild mode YET AGAIN.  Lot of big contracts coming up as well.  This organization needs to get a head coach and GM that has a fresh approach - in other words someone YOUNG and Upcoming.  Look what David Stearns did with the Mets this season. He got them in the PLAYOFFS. They were totally cast off to have a miserable season and yet this mastermind, made a few moves here and there, stole Mendoza away from the Skanks and wallah.....PLAYOFFS!!!!!  Find a David Stearns in the football world and an innovative young HC and lets move into the 21st century.

[Plen T]

Ben Johnson Head Coach 

[Maynard13]

1 minute ago, Plen T said:

Ben Johnson Head Coach 

Good idea.  Young and upcoming coach who has transformed that Lions offense. A+  But I think he wants to win a SB with the Lions before moving on or getting in the SB.  They are very very close. 

P.S. Change that avatar YUKKKK, Zach must be giggling like a 12 year old girl.

[mrcoops]

Does Woody have history with Aaron Glenn?

If so, it will be Aaron Glenn as HC, and either Douglas or some other cheap schlub as GM.

[Warfish]

Experienced as an Head Coach, offensive-side, proven record of previous playoff success elsewhere. 

Everything we’ve seemingly avoided throughout this era of failure. No first time rookie DCo Head Coaches.

Who this is? No idea yet, no way to know who will or won’t be available or interested come the offseason. 

[The Troll]

48 minutes ago, mrcoops said:

Does Woody have history with Aaron Glenn?

If so, it will be Aaron Glenn as HC, and either Douglas or some other cheap schlub as GM.

Yeah, he left him unprotected in the expansion draft because he didn’t want to pay him. 
 

No more DCs. We hire an offensive coach once every 30 years, pick the worst possible candidate and then use that as justification. “Well, that worked out great last time!” Yeah, because you picked ******* Adam Gase and Rich Kotite. 

[rangerous]

Vrabel for coach, bellichicken for gm.  I think the jets out change saleh today. 

[Untouchable]

Belichick 

The biggest damn problem with this team are discipline and fundamentals.

You think BB has any qualms about holding people accountable and jumping up their assh0les when they screw up?

Guarantee this team would be prepared and focused every week.

[Claymation]

3 hours ago, The Troll said:

Yeah, he left him unprotected in the expansion draft because he didn’t want to pay him. 
 

No more DCs. We hire an offensive coach once every 30 years, pick the worst possible candidate and then use that as justification. “Well, that worked out great last time!” Yeah, because you picked ******* Adam Gase and Rich Kotite. 

Thanks for bringing up that painful memory.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

3 hours ago, Warfish said:

Experienced as an Head Coach, offensive-side, proven record of previous playoff success elsewhere. 

Everything we’ve seemingly avoided throughout this era of failure. No first time rookie DCo Head Coaches.

Who this is? No idea yet, no way to know who will or won’t be available or interested come the offseason. 

Doug Pederson, come on down!

[Joejet]

I don’t know much about potential GM candidates so I will pass on that, I think that I would go with Todd Monken as head coach. He has limited head coach experience in college but has been a successful OC at both the college and pro levels. At 58 he has seen it all and I don’t think he would be overwhelmed with the opportunity.

[Trotter]

10 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Belichick 

The biggest damn problem with this team are discipline and fundamentals.

You think BB has any qualms about holding people accountable and jumping up their assh0les when they screw up?

Guarantee this team would be prepared and focused every week.

Would never happen but this team wins a sb this year or next with belli as coach

 

[Barry McCockinner]

Keeping JD. 

The Jets should only be considering HC candidates who have had success as an NFL or high profile NCAA head coach. No more OTJT.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Bobby Slowik, Ben Jonshon, Todd Monken

Give me all the offensive geniuses.

Hell I'd give Kingsbury another shot.

[LionelRichie]

We are getting 2nd or 3rd tier HC candidates at best.  Why would anyone in demand come to this team ?   No qb post-rodgers, jammed up cap, history of losing, bad ownership, sh*t stadium.  My guess is we get Aaron Glenn, maybe Frank Reich since Woody wouldn’t have to pay him much.  Other options are guys getting fired this year like Pederson, Dabol, or Sirianni - both teams still owe them.  
 

my preference would be Vrabel who just isn’t coming here.  

[CrazyCarl40]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Keeping JD. 

The Jets should only be considering HC candidates who have had success as an NFL or high profile NCAA head coach. No more OTJT.

Why on earth would JD get a pass? The GM will have to figure out a QB of the future. JD obviously should not be trusted to do that again. 

[Barry McCockinner]

2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Why on earth would JD get a pass? The GM will have to figure out a QB of the future. JD obviously should not be trusted to do that again. 

Why is that obvious to you?

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

13 minutes ago, LionelRichie said:

We are getting 2nd or 3rd tier HC candidates at best.  Why would anyone in demand come to this team ?   No qb post-rodgers, jammed up cap, history of losing, bad ownership, sh*t stadium.  My guess is we get Aaron Glenn, maybe Frank Reich since Woody wouldn’t have to pay him much.  Other options are guys getting fired this year like Pederson, Dabol, or Sirianni - both teams still owe them.  
 

my preference would be Vrabel who just isn’t coming here.  

The only way it seems slightly better situation is if Rodgers ends the year well, and stays for one more year to bridge the gap to a younger guy. 

If he retires? We're screwed. Easily worst situation to come to.

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Why on earth would JD get a pass? The GM will have to figure out a QB of the future. JD obviously should not be trusted to do that again. 

Oof, yeah.  Unless maybe we plan to go the veteran route again post-Rodgers, I don't want JD anywhere near the decision of who we draft high at QB.

I could maybe justify in my mind giving JD the chance to hire one more HC, but even that is a difficult viewpoint to defend.  Was he duped by that fraud Saleh?  Probably.  Is it acceptable for a GM to get duped like that?  No, not really.  

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Why is that obvious to you?

 

 

 

[THE BARON]

5 hours ago, mrcoops said:

Does Woody have history with Aaron Glenn?

If so, it will be Aaron Glenn as HC, and either Douglas or some other cheap schlub as GM.

Woody wont hire anyone that knows what they are doing.  Any one who does, won't work for him.  Remember, for Woody, the Jets are a toy he can talk about controlling when he's out mixing with big shots he wants to impress.  He wont let anyone qualified run the team unencumbered by his involvement.

Who ever is next will also fail.  

 

[Rangers9]

The obvious choice for both jobs if you're looking for best qualified is Belichick. But never going to happen. 

[ChuckkieB]

As long as Woody is the owner, no serious HC or GM will want to come here and deal with him and this mess which has been proven over the last 20 years.  Instead, we settle for 3rd rate coaches and GM's who make 3rd rate decisions and keep the Jets stuck on the hamster wheel of mediocrity, to put it nicely.

[Barry McCockinner]

10 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

 

 

The hit rate of 1st round QB's is about 35%. When you take guys in later rounds they're just darts. Not even taking Morgan into consideration and Jordan Travis is a 5th rounder on a red shirt rookie deal. Is he really part of any argument against JD picking a QB?

The idea that a GM shouldn't get a second chance at a QB because they missed one in and of itself is very flawed IMO. Now, if the GM is just sh*t, then yea - obviously you don't want to give them another try.

I think overall JD is generally a good GM and should get a second shot at an early QB pick. He missed on Wilson like 65% of the time is just going to happen. Also, it's not like he passed on a QB that did hit when resetting the QB clock. 

https://milehighsports.com/agent-peter-schaffer-first-round-qb-success/

[Jetsfan80]

10 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

The hit rate of 1st round QB's is about 35%. When you take guys in later rounds they're just darts. Not even taking Morgan into consideration and Jordan Travis is a 5th rounder on a red shirt rookie deal. Is he really part of any argument against JD picking a QB?

The idea that a GM shouldn't get a second chance at a QB because they missed one in and of itself is very flawed IMO. Now, if the GM is just sh*t, then yea - obviously you don't want to give them another try.

I think overall JD is generally a good GM and should get a second shot at an early QB pick. He missed on Wilson like 65% of the time is just going to happen. Also, it's not like he passed on a QB that did hit when resetting the QB clock. 

https://milehighsports.com/agent-peter-schaffer-first-round-qb-success/

 

It's not just that he missed.  It's that the process was flawed for each selection, AND they failed so miserably. 

Morgan was a "meh" prospect at the time he was selected and never came close to playing a down in the league.  Zach Wilson was a classic late riser mistake who is arguably a bigger bust than Ryan Leaf, especially when you consider how loaded that draft class was.  And Travis was a baffling selection:  An injured QB with an arm weaker than post-surgery Chad Pennington?  C'mon.

It's HIGHLY difficult to entrust Joe Douglas with drafting another QB with that kind of track record.

[Skeet Ulrich]

1 hour ago, Joejet said:

I don’t know much about potential GM candidates so I will pass on that, I think that I would go with Todd Monken as head coach. He has limited head coach experience in college but has been a successful OC at both the college and pro levels. At 58 he has seen it all and I don’t think he would be overwhelmed with the opportunity.

This is probably the most realistic hire, IMO. Ben Johnson and Belichick are pipe dreams, they aren't looking to work with this goof Woodrow.

 

Monken's old enough so this is probably his last go round as HC, offensive background, quality track record of success.

 

 

[Trotter]

1 hour ago, SomebodytoAnybody47 said:

Bobby Slowik, Ben Jonshon, Todd Monken

Give me all the offensive geniuses.

Hell I'd give Kingsbury another shot.

I would not mind kingsbury and while we are at it I would trade for sam Howell to compete to replace rodgers in 2026

[carlito1171]

Someone from the Chiefs or Eagles FO for GM

Ben Johnson for HC 

 

[Barry McCockinner]

4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

It's not just that he missed.  It's that the process was flawed for each selection, AND they failed so miserably. 

Morgan was a "meh" prospect at the time he was selected and never came close to playing a down in the league.  Zach Wilson was a classic late riser mistake who is arguably a bigger bust than Ryan Leaf, especially when you consider how loaded that draft class was.  And Travis was a baffling selection:  An injured QB with an arm weaker than post-surgery Chad Pennington?  C'mon.

It's HIGHLY difficult to entrust Joe Douglas with drafting another QB with that kind of track record.

"track record" is one pick really. one pick that has a 35% chance.

you're putting far too much weight on a 4th round dart throw and assuming a 5th round dart throw is already an L. Even if it ends up that way it's just a whatever. 

No good QB was taken after Wilson unless you want to argue that Justin Fields is a good QB @JiFtheOracle

 

[FidelioJet]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Keeping JD. 

The Jets should only be considering HC candidates who have had success as an NFL or high profile NCAA head coach. No more OTJT.

JD has been the worst GM this team has ever had.  Keeping him would be insane.

[Jetsplayer21]

Will be up to the new gm.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

4 minutes ago, FidelioJet said:

JD has been the worst GM this team has ever had.  Keeping him would be insane.

I really don't know how you can say that when there's Idzik and Mac just a few years ago.

[peebag]

deep down in your heart, you know it just doesn't matter who we get for coach, gm, qb, etc....

[Jetsplayer21]

27 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said:

As long as Woody is the owner, no serious HC or GM will want to come here and deal with him and this mess which has been proven over the last 20 years.  Instead, we settle for 3rd rate coaches and GM's who make 3rd rate decisions and keep the Jets stuck on the hamster wheel of mediocrity, to put it nicely.

You think other owners aren’t a PIA ? Your dreaming. Plus a lot are lot cheaper than woody. Very few GMs can pick and choose where they want to go, others are dying for an opportunity that they rarely would get. Look at the joke of a gm the giants have. There will be two openings in NJ soon. Maybe giants and jets will share a gm too lol.

[JetsFlyer]

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