Popular Post doitny Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 whats the problem with the Jets? offensive penalties, ...most in the league offensive Cadance play calling playing Hall on short runs OL blocking WR catching passes. what do they all have in common? its all offense. you wanna fire Saleh, go ahead. but none of the problems that are affecting us now will change unless Hacket goes too. Hackett is the one who needs to be fired today or nothing changes. 3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warfish Posted October 6 Popular Post Share Posted October 6 Might want to take the "D" out of the Topic Title, is a bit misleading, he has not been fired. You want to fire him. +1 as he would be my very first firing. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 6 Author Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Might want to take the "D" out of the Topic Title, is a bit misleading, he has not been fired. You want to fire him. +1 as he would be my very first firing. lol sorry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeceHallofFame Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Might want to take the "D" out of the Topic Title, is a bit misleading, he has not been fired. You want to fire him. +1 as he would be my very first firing. I might let Kieth Carter go before him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnold Schwarzenegger Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 I started this thread the day he was hired. He was an awful hire from day 1. everyone with a brain new he was a bad hire. sh*t even if you have no brains or understanding of football u probably knew Hackett was a horrific hire. He was a head coach for like 3 games before Denver was like, naaaaah just go away forever please. and jets couldn’t wait to hire him. 😂 we lived through Paul Hackett and are now forced to watch his even more retarded son call plays. hey 3 more months and we get a new gm, new head coach, new offensive coordinator, new qb, and possibly a glimmer of hope for this franchise atleast for a year or 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 15 minutes ago, BreeceHallofFame said: I might let Kieth Carter go before him Make it a twofer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 20 years ago it was the : "Fire Paul Hackett" thread. 20 years from now there will be a: "Fire Thomas Saleh" thread. Oh the pain!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionelRichie Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: 20 years ago it was the : "Fire Paul Hackett" thread. 20 years from now there will be a: "Fire Thomas Saleh" thread. Oh the pain!! this is what I just don’t understand. How can a franchise be so offensively challenged for 25 years ? It seems like we always have a good to great defense and a high school offense. Maybe ‘16 with fitzmagic, but otherwise pretty awful regardless of HC or OC. You would think that randomly we would have a good year mixed in, but no. At least with Rex there was an identity on O but since then not much really. They draft O, they hired an offensive HC, they drafted QB’s at 2 and 3, and signed 2 all time greats and none of it seems to matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bobby816 Posted October 7 Popular Post Share Posted October 7 Fire him and if Rodgers riots. So be it. He hasn’t been great with him. SoTyrod and whoever time. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 15 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Fire him and if Rodgers riots. So be it. He hasn’t been great with him. SoTyrod and whoever time. you know everybody here talks about Rodgers and Saleh maybe having a problem, but i see Rodgers getting really frustrated. and he knows its not Saleh to blame for the offense. did you see him and Hackett today? Rodgers looked pissed talking to Hackett. even Kurt Warner said it on TV. its 3rd and short as a QB dont take it out of my hands. i can get you those yards on 2 plays. but we didnt, we ran it on 3rd and 4th. again Hackett with the stupid play calling. idk man but i think Rodgers might not complain too much if we fired Hacket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 minute ago, doitny said: you know everybody here talks about Rodgers and Saleh maybe having a problem, but i see Rodgers getting really frustrated. and he knows its not Saleh to blame for the offense. did you see him and Hackett today? Rodgers looked pissed talking to Hackett. even Kurt Warner said it on TV. its 3rd and short as a QB dont take it out of my hands. i can get you those yards on 2 plays. but we didnt, we ran it on 3rd and 4th. again Hackett with the stupid play calling. idk man but i think Rodgers might not complain too much if we fired Hacket. Quite frankly I have Rodgers the benefit of the doubt before today. Wars in bad spots bc they weren’t on the same page as him and such. But after today I saw a guy making bad throws and blaming his WRs. Some of what he expects his WRs to do is out of this world. Running full speed and expect them to stop at 15mph for a back shoulder Theo they had no clue wa coming. His accuracy today was awful. All 3 INTs 100% him. Not dropped passes popped up in the air. Today AR was garbage and he needs to look at himself. It’s not relax time like he says. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Rodgers is the godfather to one of his kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Next week is their superbowl if they lose that one I don’t see how Hackett sticks around. Time to send Rodgers a message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 30 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Fire him and if Rodgers riots. So be it. He hasn’t been great with him. SoTyrod and whoever time. I appreciate our collective frustration, but surely you know that isn't a thing any NFL team would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 28 minutes ago, LionelRichie said: this is what I just don’t understand. How can a franchise be so offensively challenged for 25 years ? It seems like we always have a good to great defense and a high school offense. Maybe ‘16 with fitzmagic, but otherwise pretty awful regardless of HC or OC. You would think that randomly we would have a good year mixed in, but no. At least with Rex there was an identity on O but since then not much really. They draft O, they hired an offensive HC, they drafted QB’s at 2 and 3, and signed 2 all time greats and none of it seems to matter. Because Woody is incompetent and he hires incompetent HCs, most of which have been former DCs, so the focus is always on the D. The only offensive HC that he has hired in the last 25 years was Gase, and he was incompetent. Woody is either a totally stupid and arrogant person or he just doesn't care about whether the team wins or loses. If he cared, he'd hire a former OC who would create a dynamic offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 The INT at the end of the game is a perfect encapsulation of the season. Rogers made a good and correct read (identifying a favorable one on one matchup down the sideline which was appropriate given the clock), he threw a perfect ball but the WR had zero separation, and didn’t even know the ball was coming his way and so didn’t adjust accordingly, and the DB made a great play (seemingly knowing the play better than the wr). Its hard to know if the disconnect was Williams fault or Rogers fault, or Hacketts fault (b/c it could be all three). In any event, clearly the team is still not on the same page, and it just shows at every level. I kinda think they still have time to figure it out, but I am beginning to legitimately worry…. Are guys just not getting enough reps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 52 minutes ago, Bobby816 said: Fire him and if Rodgers riots. So be it. He hasn’t been great with him. SoTyrod and whoever time. Aaron will retire and go on Joe Rogan and trash Woody Johnson for 4 hours the moment we fire his boy Hackett. On second thought, yeah lets do it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradSmith16fan Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Make Downing play caller, Say bye to Keith Carter and make the asst oline coach the oline coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 1 hour ago, Larz said: Rodgers is the godfather to one of his kids. And? That will still be the case regardless of which team he’s coaching with. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: And? That will still be the case regardless of which team he’s coaching with. Seriously? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 It's always easier to not hire the wrong guy than to fire him. In any case Rodgers runs this team so you better ask him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Seriously? lol Yes. Seriously. You really think his employment here should/will be tied to Rodgers’ personal feelings and connection toward the OC and vice versa? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 2 minutes ago, Larz said: Seriously? lol Yes seriously 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 3 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Aaron will retire and go on Joe Rogan and trash Woody Johnson for 4 hours the moment we fire his boy Hackett. On second thought, yeah lets do it. good, they both suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 14 hours ago, Hael said: The INT at the end of the game is a perfect encapsulation of the season. Rogers made a good and correct read (identifying a favorable one on one matchup down the sideline which was appropriate given the clock), he threw a perfect ball but the WR had zero separation, and didn’t even know the ball was coming his way and so didn’t adjust accordingly, and the DB made a great play (seemingly knowing the play better than the wr). Its hard to know if the disconnect was Williams fault or Rogers fault, or Hacketts fault (b/c it could be all three). In any event, clearly the team is still not on the same page, and it just shows at every level. I kinda think they still have time to figure it out, but I am beginning to legitimately worry…. Are guys just not getting enough reps? It looked like to me that it was just a horribly-thrown ball, way behind the WR. If he had led the WR it would have been a TD. I believe that WR was Mike Williams and he excels at contested catches. He doesn't get much separation, but he wins because of his height and leaping ability. I particularly think it's on Rodgers because he was so off target all game long and threw two previous interceptions that were bad throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKlecko Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 14 hours ago, Larz said: Rodgers is the godfather to one of his kids. That shouldn't matter. Rodgers shouldn't put personal friendship over what's best for the team. It's glaringly apparent that Hackett is totally incompetent. His predictable play calling, bad personnel groupings, and lack of creativity are hamstringing the offense. If Rodgers cares anything about his own health and well-being as well as going out a winner, he will go along with Hackett being removed as a play caller, or even being fired, albeit sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 I think Nathaniel Hackett might actually be the worst OC I've ever seen for the Jets -- including Adam Gase/Loggains and his dad. That said I don't know what you accomplish by firing him. This team is what it is. We're going to go like 9-8 and miss the playoffs and everyone will be fired. I don't think there's a midseason fix and even with better coaching we're not a real contender. We're basically just trying to end the playoff drought with a 7 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 15 hours ago, LionelRichie said: this is what I just don’t understand. How can a franchise be so offensively challenged for 25 years ? It seems like we always have a good to great defense and a high school offense. Maybe ‘16 with fitzmagic, but otherwise pretty awful regardless of HC or OC. You would think that randomly we would have a good year mixed in, but no. At least with Rex there was an identity on O but since then not much really. They draft O, they hired an offensive HC, they drafted QB’s at 2 and 3, and signed 2 all time greats and none of it seems to matter. i think part of it is because woody doesn't want to be saddled with having to pay clowns like saleh for a couple of seasons after they've been launched. i think it was clear saleh wasn't up to the task after year two. sure they had a raft of injuries and were playing zach but at the same time this was his team and the offense was failing. he's still here and woody would've had to pay him for two years had he been launched earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 16 hours ago, doitny said: whats the problem with the Jets? offensive penalties, ...most in the league offensive Cadance play calling playing Hall on short runs OL blocking WR catching passes. what do they all have in common? its all offense. you wanna fire Saleh, go ahead. but none of the problems that are affecting us now will change unless Hacket goes too. Hackett is the one who needs to be fired today or nothing changes. It was the same thing with LeFleur here. Maybe there’s a deeper issue. A philosophical one and cultural one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 7 Author Share Posted October 7 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: It was the same thing with LeFleur here. Maybe there’s a deeper issue. A philosophical one and cultural one. i disagree. Flacco, White, and Johnson all played better than Zach. i think MLFs offense works with a decent QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted October 7 Share Posted October 7 5 hours ago, kdels62 said: It was the same thing with LeFleur here. Maybe there’s a deeper issue. A philosophical one and cultural one. Nah, he was an infinitely better OC than Hackett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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