AFJF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 18 minutes ago, Matt39 said: No one believes this Some people don't believe that the earth is round or that birds are real. What can ya' do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 40 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: lol then why didn't Woody let Douglas fire Saleh? Or even let him in to the room where it happened? Because Woody is the owner and decided to do it himself? The exchange between Saleh and Woody was reportedly around 90 seconds. How would things have gone differently if Joe D. was standing there to hear Woody fire Saleh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Just now, AFJF said: Because Woody is the owner and decided to do it himself? The exchange between Saleh and Woody was reportedly around 90 seconds. How would things have gone differently if Joe D. was standing there to hear Woody fire Saleh? So Douglas wasn't the boss of Saleh. Woody was. Isn't that exactly the point you're trying to make? That JD actually matters in the important decision-making process? Yet he wasn't actually the boss of Saleh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: Some people don't believe that the earth is round or that birds are real. What can ya' do? Thinking Woody isn't a meddler and that the Jets don't have a real chain of command is the same in your mind as thinking the Earth is flat? Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 12 minutes ago, AFJF said: Some people don't believe that the earth is round or that birds are real. What can ya' do? I think you are the only person that thinks the coach reports to the GM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: I think you are the only person that thinks the coach reports to the GM. JD being the boss of Saleh, supposedly, but not even being in the room when he gets fired and thinking the chain of command is Woody --> JD --> HC is insanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I think you are the only person that thinks the coach reports to the GM. Well it was supposed to finally be that way. It either changed when this regime sucked ass or maybe when Woody came back from England full time? I’m not sure. Obviously JD has no power at all now and hasn’t for some time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: Well it was supposed to finally be that way. It either changed when this regime sucked ass or maybe when Woody came back from England full time? I’m not sure. Obviously JD has no power at all now and hasn’t for some time. Likely just lip service at the time. If Douglas we’re in control of the operation we’d know. It’s likely a mix of everyone, with Douglas’s core responsibility is assembling a draft board and suggesting free agents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: So Douglas wasn't the boss of Saleh. Woody was. Isn't that exactly the point you're trying to make? That JD actually matters in the important decision-making process? Yet he wasn't actually the boss of Saleh? Woody is the boss of everyone. He hires and fires coaches and GM's. Chain of command. Everyone at the bottom works for the guy at the top no matter what order they fall in below him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 minute ago, AFJF said: Woody is the boss of everyone. He hires and fires coaches and GM's. Chain of command. Everyone at the bottom works for the guy at the top no matter what order they fall in below him. So JD, locked in a broom closet at the time of Saleh's firing, is the boss of no one. Got it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: So JD, locked in a broom closet at the time of Saleh's firing, is the boss of no one. Got it. Actually you don't get it, but that's cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Just now, AFJF said: Actually you don't get it, but that's cool. I'll wait for the full explanation on the podcast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: I'll wait for the full explanation on the podcast. I don't think I can put it in any simpler terms. Owner is boss of all. Not need JD in room to fire RS who did not resign as the HC of the NYJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 The jets haven’t had a traditional reporting structure in many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On 10/13/2024 at 1:13 PM, AFJF said: I don't think I can put it in any simpler terms. Owner is boss of all. Not need JD in room to fire RS who did not resign as the HC of the NYJ. But the team president totally not involved in anything football related is in the room The mood in the building changed Sept. 30, the day after a sloppy and listless loss to the Broncos. The Johnson brothers and team president Hymie Elhai met with Saleh and were "out for blood," a source close to the situation said. Woody Johnson was getting antsy even though his team was 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On 10/9/2024 at 9:11 AM, JiFtheOracle said: Woody made it clear this was his decision. Not sure what JD could provide at this point that Woody didnt share. I think asking JD for comments or explanation would only make things worse and make everything even more confusing. Woody made it clear as did Rodgers this was Woodys decision and neither Rodgers or Douglas had much say in the matter but you know people need to conspircy and they will conspircy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On 10/13/2024 at 10:58 AM, Rich Thornburgh said: Who is offering JD a GM job after he crapped the bed here for 5 years? Maybe he can get a scout job with the eagles I guess Not sure who will be firing their GM, but the teams that do, they will be fighting over Joe D. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 GMs don’t speak to the media once the season starts. This happens across the entire league and most other sports.There is Very very little that the GM can do once the season is underway and most importantly the GMs job is not to speak to the media, but run the franchise.We as fans want to hear them speak but I don’t really care how good or bad a coach is with the media. You judge by what’s on the field. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: But the team president totally not involved in anything football related is in the room The mood in the building changed Sept. 30, the day after a sloppy and listless loss to the Broncos. The Johnson brothers and team president Hymie Elhai met with Saleh and were "out for blood," a source close to the situation said. Woody Johnson was getting antsy even though his team was 2-2. Saleh knew he was getting fired before the London game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On 10/13/2024 at 11:30 AM, Larz said: The jets haven’t had a traditional reporting structure in many years. 23 to be exact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 On 10/13/2024 at 11:07 AM, Jetsfan80 said: So JD, locked in a broom closet at the time of Saleh's firing, is the boss of no one. Got it. JD is GM in name only just like the last several GM’s like Idzik, Mac etc. Tanenbaum it seemed did have some autonomy to a degree until the Tebow disaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 41 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: JD is GM in name only just like the last several GM’s like Idzik, Mac etc. Tanenbaum it seemed did have some autonomy to a degree until the Tebow disaster Woody is not running the entire team. JD and his team were making decisions. But Woody was approving at least the first few rounds of draft picks. Woody was behind the big moves over the last few years. Woody was 100% behind Rodgers and Hackett, and Saleh got fired large part because Hackett was as bad as everyone made him out to be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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