SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 So run run pass is back in business baby, like it never left. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Hackett spirit lives on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post T0mShane Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 We’re two weeks away from “we have to make the offense simpler so guys aren’t thinking, they’re just playing” 3 1 1 1 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NYs Stepchild Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 The subterfuge is already beginning. Pass when they expect run. Set up the run with the pass, then hit em over the top. So far, Ulbrich hasn't been outcoached even one time. I can dream for one more day. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 This is very weird place to accept something at face value. LOL 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post redlichtie Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 1 minute ago, NYs Stepchild said: The subterfuge is already beginning. Pass when they expect run. Set up the run with the pass, then hit em over the top. So far, Ulbrich hasn't been outcoached even one time. I can dream for one more day. Same…..there’s no finer time to be a fan of this team than between games and especially between coaching changes!….and then they have to go ruin it by actually playing a game 1 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 7 minutes ago, redlichtie said: Same…..there’s no finer time to be a fan of this team than between games and especially between coaching changes!….and then they have to go ruin it by actually playing a game But it sucks when they change coaches mid season,. We only get 6 days to bask in the glow of the coaching change. Then we get to see the product on the field. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post choon328 Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 Fire him 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Personally I think that’s been the plan all along. Just haven’t executed. Why? Probably a number of reasons. Whether bad scheme, bad play design, missed blocks, missed Moses etc… Hopefully Ulbrich message gets through and Downing makes corrections to get it going. Otherwise, season is cooked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 3 minutes ago, C Mart said: Personally I think that’s been the plan all along. Just haven’t executed. Why? Probably a number of reasons. Whether bad scheme, bad play design, missed blocks, missed Moses etc… Hopefully Ulbrich message gets through and Downing makes corrections to get it going. Otherwise, season is cooked. The running game is important, but as Brady mentioned on the broadcast today, sometimes you need to pass the ball to open up the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Moses is back hence the line will play better, the run game will be more productive and the box won't be loaded because we'll be able to get off a pass without so much pressure on AR.I'm right, Fight meSent from the FOREVER AND EVER Suicide Watch desk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 They tried in game 1 vs SF 19 runs and 29 passes. But the emphasis was giving the ball to Breece Hall and it didn't work. Vs Tenn 24 runs and 30 passes. Vs NEP 33 runs and 35 passes. Vs Denver 23 runs and 42 passes. Vs Minnesota 14 runs and 54 passes. Look when something not working and you're losing no prob changing the game plan. I actually thought after SF game Hackett made reasonable changes. The running game wasn't working. But 54 passes way too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted October 13 Popular Post Share Posted October 13 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: We’re two weeks away from “we have to make the offense simpler so guys aren’t thinking, they’re just playing” 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 There’s more to “we’re committed to the run game” than just check the runs vs. passes. I believe he’s addressing the horrible scheme and the fact nothing has been done to improve it. He’s not telegraphing the offensive play calls, you doofuses. Look at Detroit, Atlanta and Pittsburgh today amongst others. Just physically knocking the other teams would out of their bodies. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: There’s more to “we’re committed to the run game” than just check the runs vs. passes. I believe he’s addressing the horrible scheme and the fact nothing has been done to improve it. He’s not telegraphing the offensive play calls, you doofuses. Look at Detroit, Atlanta and Pittsburgh today amongst others. Just physically knocking the other teams would out of their bodies. i get what you are saying, but the chances of this being fixed week to week are like 0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Robby Sabo did a big write up on Saleh’s obsession with identity offense and establishing the run in the first drive every week was a big part of his downfall. Too predictable and teams were ready for it every week Loving the run game is awesome, but the first 3 plays have to be tendency breakers. Sabo in his write up pointed out how often the jets telegraphed runs by how often they ran out of heavy packages. Play action on 2nd and 9 lol. Please show tendency breakers and throw on first down please 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 We'll get it fixed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Running the ball is part attitude. The Jets offense has been a reflection of the Head Coach. Passive and waiting for something good to happen instead of making it happen. Ulbrich has some rage in him… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 6 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i get what you are saying, but the chances of this being fixed week to week are like 0 I’m not talking about feasibility. I am just point out that the reactionary responses in this thread talking about # of runs vs. passes are missing the point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 He did mention in his presser that he would change some formations. Those running formations were so telegraphed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: We’re two weeks away from “we have to make the offense simpler so guys aren’t thinking, they’re just playing” That SAME scenario plays out virtually Every season…40 Years Running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringer Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 I feel like this is a big week for this team. If they arent competitive the wheels are going to fall off quickly. It's amazing that we have somehow completely neutralize Hall who looked like he was the best back in the league the 2nd half of last year. The offense as a whole has no explosive plays I really hope it changes tomorrow night. I can't handle another year that is over before Halloween. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 Oh, NOW they are going to try to run the ball effectively 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 24 minutes ago, Larz said: Robby Sabo did a big write up on Saleh’s obsession with identity offense and establishing the run in the first drive every week was a big part of his downfall. Too predictable and teams were ready for it every week Loving the run game is awesome, but the first 3 plays have to be tendency breakers. Sabo in his write up pointed out how often the jets telegraphed runs by how often they ran out of heavy packages. Play action on 2nd and 9 lol. Please show tendency breakers and throw on first down please The Kirk Ferentz Special 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: We’re two weeks away from “we have to make the offense simpler so guys aren’t thinking, they’re just playing” Are you getting any vibes that the Jets might curb stomp Buffalo tomorrow night? I don’t have them, but my father does. Based on his track record of gut feelings, I am inclined to believe him… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 13 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Are you getting any vibes that the Jets might curb stomp Buffalo tomorrow night? I don’t have them, but my father does. Based on his track record of gut feelings, I am inclined to believe him… The Bills are all banged up and Josh Allen historically plays sh*tty against this defense, so they should win. Curious to see if firing Saleh made things better or worse behind the scenes, though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted October 14 Popular Post Share Posted October 14 The best way to run in this league is to pass, get a lead and then you can run. You cannot hand off twice into the line and then pass and expect to have any success at all. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 29 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Bills are all banged up and Josh Allen historically plays sh*tty against this defense, so they should win. Curious to see if firing Saleh made things better or worse behind the scenes, though. For the Jets probably not. But team Saleh is cruising! So that’s nice! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 24 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The Bills are all banged up and Josh Allen historically plays sh*tty against this defense, so they should win. Curious to see if firing Saleh made things better or worse behind the scenes, though. Ulbrich is instituting a new "game balls" protocol. Best player gets a game ball. Worst player gets kicked in the balls by an old hobnail boot attached to a jugs machine. So yeah, there will be an improvement. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 We have to run, we have an old washed up QB. He runs his mouth, not the offense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 5 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: We have to run, we have an old washed up QB. He runs his mouth, not the offense. If you can't build it, you have to buy it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 Every defense-minded HC (and DC) loves running the football because it makes things easier on the defense. Controls the clock and keeps the opposing team’s offense off the field, allowing defenders to rest while limiting opportunities for your own defense to get scored on. But as a HC Ulbrich should be focused more on establishing leads than on “establishing the run”. There are times when you have to take what the defense gives you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 1 hour ago, RoadFan said: Are you getting any vibes that the Jets might curb stomp Buffalo tomorrow night? I don’t have them, but my father does. Based on his track record of gut feelings, I am inclined to believe him… i did until they fired Saleh. in season firings never save a season its just some red meat the owners throws the fans in a lost season. problem is this season isnt lost. were playing for 1st place tomorrow night and were playing musical chairs with our coaching staff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 21 minutes ago, doitny said: i did until they fired Saleh. in season firings never save a season its just some red meat the owners throws the fans in a lost season. problem is this season isnt lost. were playing for 1st place tomorrow night and were playing musical chairs with our coaching staff. In-season firings are usually bad teams. This is a talented group that was being lead by a snake oil Salehsman. I expect the Jets to play with a sense of urgency… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted October 14 Share Posted October 14 31 minutes ago, doitny said: i did until they fired Saleh. in season firings never save a season its just some red meat the owners throws the fans in a lost season. problem is this season isnt lost. were playing for 1st place tomorrow night and were playing musical chairs with our coaching staff. He had to be fired because his primary concern was himself. Let the responsibility take care of itself, collect the check. No feathers ruffled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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