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Who is most to blame for Jets offensive struggles this season?


Who is most to blame for the Jets offensive struggles right now?  

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  1. 1. Why can't the Jets move the ball right now?

    • Aaron Rodgers
    • O-line
    • The demoted one (Hackett)
    • The fired one (Robert Saleh)


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4 minutes ago, Dunnie said:

In Order...

Nathaniel Hackett
Alan Dropzard
Robert Salad
(Gap)
OL
Breece Hall (2 ypc)
Aaron
Garrett


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The team leader in TD receptions has been the second biggest problem on offense this season because he had one terrible game?  

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The team leader in TD receptions has been the second biggest problem on offense this season because he had one terrible game?  
Yeah .. he might slot better right above/below the OL

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Hackett, and if not him, Kevin Carter?

I don’t know what’s going on with the oline, but I don’t really see guys getting beat.  Besides fashanu, he’s always getting beat

its more guys just don’t know who to block, or there’s just more guys to block than blockers available 

something has been seriously wrong with the scheme 

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The head coach, first and foremost. He's in charge of the team, and Bob thought absolutely nothing needed to be change, and stupid jets fans are just impatient... because we haven't been watching this same inept shlt for FOR YEARS or anything... Team is far too talented for the predictable garbage he trotted out there week after week year after year. Hackett and Keith Carter also prime suspects. A good coach would have this team at the top of the AFC rn 

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This is pure speculation since none of us know how much these guys influenced the play calling, as confident as people are in their opinions.

I'd guess Saleh was responsible for the scripted plays and the general philosophy of the offense. Mano a Mano. I don't like it and ima guess that Hackett would have been slightly better without Saleh. I don't like Hackett either so I'm glad we don't have to find out. 

You can blame the Oline but it's tough to block against teams that know what's coming. 

It's a good thing that we'll find out tonight isn't it?   At least I hope we find out something  tonight.

If we run straight over the guard on every first and second down and short yardage tonight then I don't know what I'll do.

 

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40 minutes ago, jgb said:

Really need multiple voting options lol. I voted Saleh though because only he had the power to change anything if Hackett wasn’t getting it done (which he was not).

I don't believe this.  Saleh was trying to replace Hackett during the offseason but couldn't give an upgrade the OC title because of Rodgers.  This has been reported by Rossini the lying betch that always turns out to be right on the money.  

FYI Hackett has retained the title of OC even after Downing was given the play calling.

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IMO, the MAJOR issues have had to do with lack of discipline, rhythm and chemistry, preparation, and poor player utilization. That is 100% on coaching. And I think Saleh is the guy who is responsible. He has to make sure his team comes ready to play, his players are held accountable and play/practice in a culture where dumb penalties are simply inexcusable. It's on him when the offense comes out flat. It's on him when he is unable to get the right guys on the field. And Saleh runs the practices, right? He should be able to have his guys develop certain plays where they have chemistry, go to plays they can rely on.

A close second is Hack. After all, he is (was) in charge of the offense. Simple as that. 

And third is Rodgers simply because he is the de facto offensive coordinator. The offense runs through him. And if he can't get his guys on board to execute, regardless of the poor coaching, who can? 

I don't really blame the o-line. They have done their job (for the most part) protecting ARod. They struggled making lanes in the run game, but the play-calling has not been very creative and let's be honest, that was never going to be their strength. And when the Jets did find productive running in Allen, they seemed to move away from it, continuing to feed the ball to a struggling Breece Hall. And while this is not an excuse, the Jets have played very good defenses. Putting this on the o-line, especially when seeing how poor the execution has been by the rest of the offense and how well they have played early on in pass pro is a bit of a cop out. 

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I went with Saleh because the main problem seems to be players making numerous mistakes all over the offense not justy the O-line. A good coach would have put  a stop to all the ridiculous penalties after it became a common occurance. Pre Snap penalties are a direct reflection of preperation and I think we lead the NFL in that category.

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1 hour ago, bitonti said:

Believe it or not the Jets have a top ten line right now 

Olu at RT isn't ideal but the rest of the line is very legit 

This. We have the individual pieces - it's up to the coaching staff to get those pieces integrated into a a cohesive unit.

So far - major fail on that front. Plus the RBs don't seem on the same page blocking wise either. Or the TEs for that matter. If it was just one guy, yeah, you can pin it on him. But NO-ONE is looking like they know what they're doing right now.

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1 hour ago, Biggs said:

I don't believe this.  Saleh was trying to replace Hackett during the offseason but couldn't give an upgrade the OC title because of Rodgers.  This has been reported by Rossini the lying betch that always turns out to be right on the money.  

FYI Hackett has retained the title of OC even after Downing was given the play calling.

He could’ve stripped play calling however if he was boxed in on titles 

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1 minute ago, jgb said:

He could’ve stripped play calling however if he was boxed in on titles 

It's a big deal.  What great qualified NFL OC is coming to the Jets as a play caller while Hackett retains the title of OC?  It's only happening if the play caller gets the title of Head Coach.  

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Rodgers

0% chance hackett would be if not for rodgers.

They together are running the offense rodgers likes.

For rodgers to succeed in this offense they need a years worth of meaningful reps for the way he uses the oline (cadence) and his wrs who he wants to be in a specific place at a specific time.

The same young players he could not get on the same page with in green bay are ripping it up now with love.

The whole old school  offense is built around Rodgers.

He is going to get all the praise if it succeeds but he will somehow dodge all blame if it fails

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Biggs said:

It's a big deal.  What great qualified NFL OC is coming to the Jets as a play caller while Hackett retains the title of OC?  It's only happening if the play caller gets the title of Head Coach.  

He could’ve and should’ve done what Ulbrich did and passed off play calling responsibility. 

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1. Rodgers/Hackett.  There is no separating these two till now, they're a pair, and they get judged as a pair.  A HOF QB gets all the credit, but he also earns all the criticism, when the O doesn't work.  Hackett is Hackett (a bum) who calls a predictable, very stoppable offensive system, but Rodgers doesn't look much like any version of younger Rodgers.

2. The O-line.  Very disappointing for a supposed elite on-paper unit.  Meh in the run, meh in the pass, just nothing (visually, watching them) has been impressive.  No idea what the metrics might say.

3. Saleh.  His inherent ultra-conservative D-Co's idea of offense has been a limiter since the day he arrived with the Jets.  Not expecting any changes on this end with another Defensive-minded D-Co now in charge.

Everything else is a distant non-issue in my book.  Hall's slow start, Wilson's supposed grumpiness, even the Quitter Lazard's drops.  

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Really need multiple voting options lol. I voted Saleh though because only he had the power to change anything if Hackett wasn’t getting it done (which he was not).
This is the best answer .. but Hackett is so bad I couldn't resist

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10 minutes ago, jgb said:

He could’ve and should’ve done what Ulbrich did and passed off play calling responsibility. 

He could've but I think a very experienced OC bringing in his staff would be better than rearanging the chairs.

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Just now, Biggs said:

He could've but I think a very experienced OC bringing in his staff would be better than rearanging the chairs.

Agree but there is probably some truth that Saleh didn’t have the power to fire Hackett outright.

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