Zuerlein to IR

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, shuler82 said:

Same reason Wilson was kept last year and no viable backups were brought in 

Yep. Roster configuration. Paying two kickers was not in the budget this year. 

[jgb]

Picture of Woody Johnson appears next to the entry for "sunken cost fallacy" in the dictionary

[EM31]

Honestly if tanking is the plan then I cannot help but think that a broken kicker is an excellent way to help do that

[Barkus]

2 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I saw it in the pre-season finale, Zuerlein was off and I mean way off.

Coaching staff's fault for not having him kick more in the pre-season - instead of giving all of the work to Seibert.

One of the biggest roster screw ups the coaching staff made this season was keeping Zuerlein & cutting Austin Seibert.

Seibert was a cheap, long-term solution a Kicker.

I understand it was because of the idiotic extension that Zuerlien signed in the off-season and it has directly cost us at least 2, possibly 3 games that we would have won with a competent kicker.

This team can never seem to get it right, when it comes to roster decisions.

Why did they give Seibert all the kicks? Was Zeurlien hurt in preseason ?? You are right, he looked terrible in the preseason too. 

[kdels62]

It’s a cap saving move. Not a big deal at all. De facto cutting with the chance to bring him back in later in case chaos happens. Not clever enough to be shrewd, not blunt enough to be pleasing but whatever.

[BeaconJet]

2 hours ago, kmnj said:

the bigly sad thing is the Jets let Nick Folk go like 7 years ago -typical jets

even though he is no spring chicken and plays for a trash team this year

he has not missed a FG this year and from 40-49 he is 4 for 4 and from 50+ he is 3 for 3 and is perfect in extra points

 

 

 

 

Nick Folk, Jason Myers, Jets have had good kickers through the years. Even Greg the Legless was good last season. 

Maybe a lesson in not paying kickers all that much. Like baseball closers, sometimes they go south and you're screwed.

[Biggs]

Bruised shank bone.  Isn't that on the Seder plate?

[Jetsfan80]

3 hours ago, Rhg1084 said:

thanks for the memories Greg!

 

"IR"

 

[jamesr]

Nick Folk, Jason Myers, Jets have had good kickers through the years. Even Greg the Legless was good last season. 
Maybe a lesson in not paying kickers all that much. Like baseball closers, sometimes they go south and you're screwed.

That's why we didn't retain Myers - he was due a new contract and was going to be pricey to keep. So we let him walk.

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[Green Ghost]

4 hours ago, Matt39 said:

It has nothing to do with Douglas. Woody didn’t want to move off of the guaranteed money. Douglas has no control over the budget.

If Woody can save 2 mil parking him on IR rather than cutting him, at 2-6 he’s smart to do so.
If it was JD who told him why he should go on IR, good on him. He saved his boss 2 mil in what’s become a lost season. 

This is one of the rare times I don’t blame JD either. Despite all the people here whining about Siebert NOW, Not a single person here wanted to move on from Zeurlein. In fact we were all boasting the Jets had the best PK/P combo in the league with him and Morestead. 
As far as the “Woody is cheap” crowd, he’s actually the opposite. Hell, 12 days ago he signed Adams and Reddick. Woody’s problem isn’t being cheap, it’s that he can’t hire the right people, and he thinks like a fan and because of that he makes as many stupid moves as we would if we owned a team.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

If Woody can save 2 mil parking him on IR rather than cutting him, at 2-6 he’s smart to do so.

This is one of the rare times I don’t blame JD either. Despite all the people here whining about Siebert NOW, Not a single person here wanted to move on from Zeurlein. In fact we were all boasting the Jets had the best PK/P combo in the league with him and Morestead. 
As far as the “Woody is cheap” crowd, he’s actually the opposite. Hell, 12 days ago he signed Adams and Reddick. Woody’s problem isn’t being cheap, it that he thinks like a fan and because of that he makes as many stupid moves as we would if we owned a team.

If you don’t think Woody is cheap at this point there’s nothing I can do for you. The scouting department is barebones. Zeurlein should have been sat a month ago. Woody did not want to pay two kickers. It’s that simple. Just like he wasn’t going to pay another QB last year. He is cheap. 

[Green Ghost]

4 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

If you don’t think Woody is cheap at this point there’s nothing I can do for you. The scouting department is barebones. Zeurlein should have been sat a month ago. Woody did not want to pay two kickers. It’s that simple. Just like he wasn’t going to pay another QB last year. He is cheap. 

He (or JD) made the right, and smart move here. They saved $2mil in a lost season.  Deal with it.

Only a moron would’ve done otherwise.

[Matt39]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

He (or JD) made the right, and smart move here. One of them saved 2mil in a lost season.  Deal with it.

Only a moron would’ve done otherwise.

Letting the kicker sabotage the season was the right move? **** off.

[Green Ghost]

5 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Letting the kicker sabotage the season was the right move? **** off.

“*** off” 😂 That’s classy.

Meanwhile, you would’ve cut a newly signed 8.5 million dollar kicker that you fawned over all last year after 3 or 4 games, huh? You’re as dumb as you claim Woody is. 

 

[Matt39]

6 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

*** off? That’s classy.

Meanwhile, you would’ve cut a newly signed 8.5 million dollar kicker that you fawned over all last year after 3 or 4 games, huh? You’re as dumb as you claim Woody is. 

 

What is your dumb ass even talking about here (and you went with moron first  )

 That contract was stupid to give to a kicker who’s been inconsistent his entire career. The Jets refused to move off of him because of the guaranteed money they idiotically gave to him, even after it was clear early in the season that he had turned into a Headcase in who couldn’t make a kick. If winning was a priority to Woody, a kicker would have been signed at least a month ago. Your argument makes zero sense, if it wasn’t about the money then he would have been cut. He wasn’t cut, so therefore it’s Woody being cheap. We are talking about a kicker. 
 

Woody stans in 2024. My god. 

[Green Ghost]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

What is your dumb ass even talking about here (and you went with moron first  )

 That contract was stupid to give to a kicker who’s been inconsistent his entire career. The Jets refused to move off of him because of the guaranteed money they idiotically gave to him, even after it was clear he had turned into a Headcase who couldn’t make a kick. If winning was a priority to Woody, a kicker would have been signed at least a month ago. Your argument makes zero sense. 
 

Woody stans in 2024. My god. 

On the contrary. I’m the one here who IS making sense. Show me one… just one post where anyone said at the time they didn’t like seeing Zeurlein getting signed last offseason.

All you and the others complaining about him now are doing is Monday Morning QBing. “I would’ve cut him 2 weeks ago!” Yeah, okay. I would’ve never traded for Aaron Rodgers… but guess what? Nobody in the FO should give a **** what we think.

Trust me, I’m no fan of Woody, or JD and for you to call me a Woody Stan because I’m telling you you’re wrong is nothing but you acting like a petulant child. One last time… at 2-6 they made the smart move putting the guy on IR and saving 2M. It would’ve bordered on incompetence if they didn’t.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

On the contrary. I’m the one here who IS making sense. Show me one… just one person’s post where anyone said they didn’t like seeing Zeurlein getting signed last offseason.

All you and the others complaining about him now are doing is Monday Morning QBing. “I would’ve cut him 2 weeks ago!” Yeah, okay. I would’ve never traded for Aaron Rodgers… but guess what? Nobody in the FO should give a **** what we think.

Trust me, I’m no fan of Woody, or JD, but (one last time) at 2-6 they made the smart move putting the guy on IR and saving 2M. It would’ve bordered on incompetence if they didn’t.

That said, I’ll give you the last word if you want it…

It is a kicker. Once they go, you move on. Woody didn’t want to because he’s cheap. It’s a kicker. You can’t tell me he isn’t cheap if he’s not willing to move off of a kicker. Sticking up for the FO and Woody is silly. There’s no defense for holding onto a kicker who cannot kick.

[Green Ghost]

11 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

It is a kicker. Once they go, you move on. Woody didn’t want to because he’s cheap. It’s a kicker. You can’t tell me he isn’t cheap if he’s not willing to move off of a kicker. Sticking up for the FO and Woody is silly. There’s no defense for holding onto a kicker who cannot kick.

No FO in the league is going to cut a PK 3 or 4 games into a 2year $8.5 mil contract.

[Matt39]

14 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

No FO in the league is going to cut a PK 3 or 4 games into a 2year $8.5 mil contract.

Yeah that’s just not even remotely true. The Broncos are currently paying Russell Wilson 39 million to not play for them. 

[Green Ghost]

14 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

Yeah that’s just not even remotely true. The Broncos are currently paying Russell Wilson 39 million to not play for them. 

Because Nix is on a rookie deal and the rest of their QB room (Zach and Stidham are making peanuts).and 😂at comparing QB budgets to PKs.

Give me the names of teams that cut a PK 3 games into a $8.5 mil deal. I’ll wait.

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Because Nix is on a rookie deal and the rest of their QB room (Zach and Stidham are making peanuts).and 😂at comparing QB budgets to PKs.

Give me the names of teams that cut a PK 3 games into a $8.5 mil deal. I’ll wait.

It’s a stupid point because there’s only 32 kickers and the ones who are making money can actually kick. If one of them were to melt down, they would be cut. 

[Green Ghost]

12 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

It’s a stupid point because there’s only 32 kickers and the ones who are making money can actually kick. If one of them were to melt down, they would be cut. 

Can’t find a PK who got cut 3 games into a 8.5 mil deal, huh?

[98jetsoasis]

6 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Imagine losing games because of your kicker, doing nothing, seeing the Packers bring in McManus off the couch and being left with these scraps because you have a navel gazing putz for a GM.

[DJF71]

5 hours ago, CanadaSteve said:

No....No it doesn't mean that at all.  There could be lots of reasons, one of which could just be a sign of respect for the guy.  Yeah, he's done here.  But he's had a good career up until this season.  Maybe he can stick somewhere else if they play it out this way.  Could be Woody doesn't want to pay the money, so its a way-around.  There could be LOTS of reasons we are not privy to. 

Or its the Jets and they cocked it up!

[batman10023]

6 hours ago, ARodJetsFan said:

I saw it in the pre-season finale, Zuerlein was off and I mean way off.

Coaching staff's fault for not having him kick more in the pre-season - instead of giving all of the work to Seibert.

One of the biggest roster screw ups the coaching staff made this season was keeping Zuerlein & cutting Austin Seibert.

Seibert was a cheap, long-term solution a Kicker.

I understand it was because of the idiotic extension that Zuerlien signed in the off-season and it has directly cost us at least 2, possibly 3 games that we would have won with a competent kicker.

This team can never seem to get it right, when it comes to roster decisions.

He cost us any chance of playoffs. 

[Green Ghost]

8 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

He cost us any chance of playoffs. 

IMO This team wasn’t making the playoffs if the ghost of Jan Stenerud was it’s kicker.

They’re the worst coached team in the league, the most penalized, their QB is an old, gimpy delay of game penalty waiting to happen… I could go on, but I think I’ve made my point.

[Green Ghost]

you know how many NFL pundits will look back on this season and say the reason the NYJ missed the playoffs was Greg Zeurlein?

[The Crusherer]

1 minute ago, Green Ghost said:

you know how many NFL pundits will look back on this season and say the reaso the 2024 NYJ missed the playoffs was Greg Zeurlein?

Missed playoffs. Missed field goals, after awhile just all blends together. 

[Matt39]

46 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Can’t find a PK who got cut 3 games into a 8.5 mil deal, huh?

What is the relevance of this question or are you just here to blow woody. But if we want to do a little homework the Vikings cut Blair Walsh in the second year of a 4 year 14 million dollar deal. 

[Green Ghost]

15 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

What is the relevance of this question or are you just here to blow woody. But if we want to do a little homework the Vikings cut Blair Walsh in the second year of a 4 year 14 million dollar deal. 

The gist of this discussion is you saying Woody didn’t cut him because he’s cheap. I said that made no sense because 10 days earlier he spent about $25 million to bring in Adams and Reddick, and if he saved $2 mil putting him on IR he was smart to do it. Personally I think JD pointed that out to him, but whatever…

I agree with you a lot more times than I disagree, but you’re wrong here, and name calling only makes you look small. I thought you’d be better than that. I have no use for Woody.
To sum it up, he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he’s not cheap.

[Matt39]

Just now, Green Ghost said:

You said Woody didn’t cut him because he’s cheap. I said that made no sense because 10 days earlier he spent about $25 million to bring in Adams and Reddick.

I agree with you a lot more times than I disagree, but you’re wrong here, and name calling only makes you look small. I thought you’d be better than that. I have no use for Woody. He’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he’s not cheap.

For one you began with the name calling so whatever. Adams was brought in because the cap allowed it and they weren’t paying Reddick. Woody did not want to swallow Zuerleins whatever 4 million while also paying a new kicker. There’s one spot. Just like hypothetically if the long snapper couldn’t get his act together for some reason he wouldn’t cut him either. Why do you think Wilson was trotted out there last year? It’s money. 

[Green Ghost]

14 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

For one you began with the name calling so whatever. 

You said earlier I called you a moron and that justified all the names you’ve called me. I just went back and looked… and just like I thought, I never did that.

What I said was “Woody or JD saved the team 2 mil putting him on IR and only a moron would not to do that.”

You on the other hand keep name calling like you’re a 10 year old. I didn’t expect that from you.

[Matt39]

2 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

You said earlier I called you a moron and that justified all the names I called you I just went back and looked… I never did.

What I said was “Woody and JD saved 2 mil putting him on IR and only a moron wouldn’t do that.”

That’s not really what you said but I’m not losing sleep over it. The Jets season was lost on the org refusing to move on from a kicker and were supposed to be happy woody saved two million.

[jgb]

44 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

you know how many NFL pundits will look back on this season and say the reason the NYJ missed the playoffs was Greg Zeurlein?

There may not be one cause we can assign all the blame to but the kicker drama was the most glaring (and most easy to fix) of the many, many mothers of this unfolding disaster.

[Matt39]

5 minutes ago, jgb said:

There may not be one cause we can assign all the blame to but the kicker drama was the most glaring (and most easy to fix) of the many, many mothers of this unfolding disaster.

Call me old school but I think a pro team should have a kicker who can kick regardless of their contract