The 2025 New York Yankees Thread

[Maxman]

It needed to be done. 

Sign Soto

Get a new 1B

Sign Torres? If not Jazz to 2B and you need both corners

Relievers, relievers, relievers

Easy stuff.

[JustEndTheSuffering]

9 hours ago, Maxman said:

It needed to be done. 

Sign Soto

Get a new 1B

Sign Torres? If not Jazz to 2B and you need both corners

Relievers, relievers, relievers

Easy stuff.

Definitely bring back Torres and need some bats and a starting pitcher. 

[nj meadowlands]

Everything else pales in comparison to the Soto pursuit, but I'd like to see a lineup of...

1. Volpe (SS)
2. Soto (RF) 
3. Judge (CF)
4. Stanton (DH)
5. Arenado (3B) -- trade --
6. Chisholm (2B) -- slides over after Gleyber signs elsewhere --
7. Wells (C)
8. No idea. Josh Bell? Ben Rice? Rizzo? Spencer Jones? (1B)
9. Dominguez (LF)

[Barton]

They have to get another ace pitcher. They sniffed around 1 all offseason last offseason (Burnes, Snell, Cease) even trying to bring Montgomery back (which i did not agree with, as he isnt that good, they dodged a bullet there).

Well guess what? Snell and Burnes are now free agents.

 

[Barton]

This lineup is loaded with strikeouts. It is not a balanced lineup.

I would start Caleb Durbin who has good BA and OBP skills and elite contact skills - 2b from the minor league system.

I would obviously let Torres walk. Dont get fooled by his past 2 months. Look at his record. Lazy, error prone, inconsistent bat.

Rizzo - he's done. Bat speed is gone, defense has fall off. Needs to be replaced by a high batting avg and high OBP skills guy. He does NOT need to be replaced with another guy who swings for the fences and strikes out too much. I'd go with Rice here but his defense is poor. 

I would consider trading Jazz Chisolm. His career BA and OBP are terrible, as are his K numbers. Also not a high IQ player. I would only consider keeping him if the Yankees replace Rizzo with a high contact hitter, which they likely will not do. 

Stanton - do not get fooled by his great postseason. He misses 60 games a year, bare minimum. He clogs the DH spot. He cannot score on a hit from 2nd base. He strikes out far too much. Right now is the PERFECT time to get rid of him, as his stock is high. This move is key, as it allows Judge and Soto to get rest days as a DH, and it allows Rice to be the DH and play alittle 1st base as he continues to work on his defense. It also allows them to target a better hitting DH who hits for a higher batting average, OBP skills, stays healthy.

Dominguez takes over in left. Verdugo walks.

Lineup:

1. Durbin

2. Soto

3. Judge

4. Alex Bregman (elite contact skills, high baseball IQ, excellent defense, proven champion)

5. Volpe (had an overall good postseason, as long as he focuses on his flat swing, he will continue to progress.)

6. New 1st baseman or DH/Ben Rice

7. Jazz Chisholm 

8. Austin Wells

9. Dominguez

 

That my friends is a far improved lineup, with more speed, athleticism, higher BA and OBP skills. 

[Barton]

Boone has overseen a team the last 5+ years that lacks basic little league fundamentals..... EVERY YEAR

Why? Because they dont practice fundamentals. If they did, it wouldnt be happening every year. It's pretty simple.

He's not a real manager. 

[chirorob]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:06 AM, Maxman said:

It needed to be done. 

Sign Soto

Get a new 1B

Sign Torres? If not Jazz to 2B and you need both corners

Relievers, relievers, relievers

Easy stuff.

No torres.

He's 28, already slow, poor baserunner, not great defensively.

[chirorob]

13 hours ago, Barton said:

This lineup is loaded with strikeouts. It is not a balanced lineup.

I would start Caleb Durbin who has good BA and OBP skills and elite contact skills - 2b from the minor league system.

I would obviously let Torres walk. Dont get fooled by his past 2 months. Look at his record. Lazy, error prone, inconsistent bat.

Rizzo - he's done. Bat speed is gone, defense has fall off. Needs to be replaced by a high batting avg and high OBP skills guy. He does NOT need to be replaced with another guy who swings for the fences and strikes out too much. I'd go with Rice here but his defense is poor. 

I would consider trading Jazz Chisolm. His career BA and OBP are terrible, as are his K numbers. Also not a high IQ player. I would only consider keeping him if the Yankees replace Rizzo with a high contact hitter, which they likely will not do. 

Stanton - do not get fooled by his great postseason. He misses 60 games a year, bare minimum. He clogs the DH spot. He cannot score on a hit from 2nd base. He strikes out far too much. Right now is the PERFECT time to get rid of him, as his stock is high. This move is key, as it allows Judge and Soto to get rest days as a DH, and it allows Rice to be the DH and play alittle 1st base as he continues to work on his defense. It also allows them to target a better hitting DH who hits for a higher batting average, OBP skills, stays healthy.

Dominguez takes over in left. Verdugo walks.

Lineup:

1. Durbin

2. Soto

3. Judge

4. Alex Bregman (elite contact skills, high baseball IQ, excellent defense, proven champion)

5. Volpe (had an overall good postseason, as long as he focuses on his flat swing, he will continue to progress.)

6. New 1st baseman or DH/Ben Rice

7. Jazz Chisholm 

8. Austin Wells

9. Dominguez

 

That my friends is a far improved lineup, with more speed, athleticism, higher BA and OBP skills. 

No way I'm hitting Volpe that high.  He's more an 8, 9 hitter.  Let him use his speed more.

Where is Stanton?  He has a no trade clause, he isn't going anywhere.

[section314]

On 11/2/2024 at 8:46 AM, Barton said:

Boone has overseen a team the last 5+ years that lacks basic little league fundamentals..... EVERY YEAR

Why? Because they dont practice fundamentals. If they did, it wouldnt be happening every year. It's pretty simple.

He's not a real manager. 

In his defense, Boone like most MLB managers are beholden to analytics and fundamentals are the last thing that go into analytics.

[Barton]

You know the Yankees arent serious about winning if they dont re-sign Soto and acquire a legit co-ace with Cole such as Burnes, Snell or a trade.

There just isnt a sense of urgency with the team. What are they waiting for? Judge and Cole to be 36 and broken down? 

 

 

 

[Rich Thornburgh]

Problem is twofold 1) Yankees can’t give Soto a significantly bigger contract than Judge 2) Mets have the richest owner in sports

 

I do think Yankees are going after Flaherty or Fried in free agency.  Rodon is not a number 2 starter on a World Series team and Nestor is really a borderline 5th starter and Schmidt being in a postseason rotation was a joke

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/1/2024 at 9:59 AM, JustEndTheSuffering said:

Definitely bring back Torres and need some bats and a starting pitcher. 

Resign Torres and have him bat leadoff permanently.  Sign Jack Flaherty

[chirorob]

1 hour ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Resign Torres and have him bat leadoff permanently.  Sign Jack Flaherty

I really don't think he is coming back.

Poor base runner, up and down fielder, he slugged under 400, with an OBP of 330.  He is also already slower than he was, and has shown he will not move to 3rd base.

[Barton]

Yankees have seemingly zero interest in bringing Gleyber back. Which is why I said they should have traded him in the past 2 years. Regardless, they need to give Caleb Durbin a starting position and not jerk him around as a utility guy who plays 3x per week. He has earned a starting everyday job for next years club. Ideally I would put him at 2b, trade Jazz and get a legit 3B in here. But if Caleb can play 3B, you can move Jazz to 2nd. But I just don’t like Jazz as a ball player. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/11/2024 at 4:03 PM, chirorob said:

I really don't think he is coming back.

Poor base runner, up and down fielder, he slugged under 400, with an OBP of 330.  He is also already slower than he was, and has shown he will not move to 3rd base.

Torres was a completely different player once they started batting him lead off.  His Batting average as a lead off hitter was .377 with .411 OBP.

 

or we could bring back Lemeheiu so he can bat .090 for an entire season 

[chirorob]

31 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Torres was a completely different player once they started batting him lead off.  His Batting average as a lead off hitter was .377 with .411 OBP.

 

or we could bring back Lemeheiu so he can bat .090 for an entire season 

DJ was a good player, but he is obviously done.

Thing is, hitting 377 with an OBP of 411 isn't going to actually happen for a full season.  If he reverts to 280 batting, with that walk rate, that's only an OBP of 320.

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/14/2024 at 1:52 PM, chirorob said:

DJ was a good player, but he is obviously done.

Thing is, hitting 377 with an OBP of 411 isn't going to actually happen for a full season.  If he reverts to 280 batting, with that walk rate, that's only an OBP of 320.

Torres was much better once he batted lead off and we don’t have anyone to replace him.  Cashman will move Jazz to second and get someone that sucks either bring back DJ who is arguably the worst contract on the team or get another Josh Donaldson type of bust

[Rich Thornburgh]

Rays are playing next season at Steinbrenner field

[JustEndTheSuffering]

On 11/11/2024 at 6:03 PM, chirorob said:

I really don't think he is coming back.

Poor base runner, up and down fielder, he slugged under 400, with an OBP of 330.  He is also already slower than he was, and has shown he will not move to 3rd base.

He might not be back, but he should be. He's one of the few Yankees who has consistently had good postseason numbers.

[Barton]

You cant justify losing Soto. Top 3 hitter in the game. Especially if you are gonna pay bums like Grisham 5 mill a year. There is plenty of payroll to be moved around and coming off the books to give Soto as much as the loser Mets. 

Get it done, Hal or get the F outa here. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

Caleb Durban has been tearing it up in the minors.  Will probably be the next 2B

[Barton]

Dodgers sign Blake Snell.

Meanwhile, Yankees are asleep as usual. Hal will make excuses even if they sign Soto. "Now we dont have enough money for another top player like Corbin Burnes blah blah". Meanwhile, Dodgers sign everybody. 

[chirorob]

Snell's contract is a poor move.

He's thrown over 130 innings twice in 9 years, and is the definition of a 5 inning starter.

No opt outs for the Dodgers, so he is getting every penny, and again, some money deferred.

[Rhg1084]

Dodgers are a super team geez nobody beating them. Snell Ohtani Glasnow all added to their rotation unreal. They’ll probably end up with Soto too

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/27/2024 at 9:31 AM, Barton said:

Dodgers sign Blake Snell.

Meanwhile, Yankees are asleep as usual. Hal will make excuses even if they sign Soto. "Now we dont have enough money for another top player like Corbin Burnes blah blah". Meanwhile, Dodgers sign everybody. 

I want Flaherty

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/27/2024 at 9:49 PM, Rhg1084 said:

Dodgers are a super team geez nobody beating them. Snell Ohtani Glasnow all added to their rotation unreal. They’ll probably end up with Soto too

I think Mets get Soto 

[Barton]

4 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

I want Flaherty

Thats not gonna move the needle on this team, IMO. His track record the past few years is up and down.

They need another co-ace with Cole.

They should be signing Soto and signing either Fried or Corbin Burnes. If they were serious about winning, thats what they would do. 

Tired of hearing form Hal saying budget blah blah meanwhile the Dodgers sign everyone to deferred deals and you have guys like DJ Lamehieu and the backfup CFer making a combined 20-25 mill next year. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

3 hours ago, Barton said:

Thats not gonna move the needle on this team, IMO. His track record the past few years is up and down.

They need another co-ace with Cole.

They should be signing Soto and signing either Fried or Corbin Burnes. If they were serious about winning, thats what they would do. 

Tired of hearing form Hal saying budget blah blah meanwhile the Dodgers sign everyone to deferred deals and you have guys like DJ Lamehieu and the backfup CFer making a combined 20-25 mill next year. 

Flaherty had a lower ERA and struck out more batters last season. Plus the dodgers kill left handed pitching. We need to build a roster that can compete with the dodgers

 

I have no problem with Max Fried either.  We need one of the two because this rotation isn’t good enough 

[Barton]

3 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Flaherty had a lower ERA and struck out more batters last season. Plus the dodgers kill left handed pitching. We need to build a roster that can compete with the dodgers

 

I have no problem with Max Fried either.  We need one of the two because this rotation isn’t good enough 

Look at innings pitched though. Burnes is a more reliable horse. That could change tomorrow but his track record is there. 

I just dont see Yankees going with Flaherty if the report is true they nixed their deadline deal for him due to his medical reports (on his back).

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 11/30/2024 at 1:20 PM, Barton said:

Look at innings pitched though. Burnes is a more reliable horse. That could change tomorrow but his track record is there. 

I just dont see Yankees going with Flaherty if the report is true they nixed their deadline deal for him due to his medical reports (on his back).

Look I’m actually agreeing with you.  We definitely need one of the two Fried or Flaherty.  If Nestor is the #3 starter next season and Schmidt is in the rotation I call bs - that might not win 90 games

[Barton]

9 hours ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Look I’m actually agreeing with you.  We definitely need one of the two Fried or Flaherty.  If Nestor is the #3 starter next season and Schmidt is in the rotation I call bs - that might not win 90 games

Schmidt has to be in the rotation. Has a variety of pitches, was a 1st rd pick and had an ERA under 3.0 last year

[Barton]

Pretty weird the Yankees had to up their offer to Soto last week. Pretty much they low-balled it on their first offer.

There's plenty of payroll room to pay Soto 50 mill a a year. Plenty. Look at all the guys coming off the books (Verdugo, Gleyber, Rizzo, Holmes etc). 

Dodgers dont operate on a budget. Hal shouldnt be either. 

They should be signing Soto AND 1 of the elite starting pitchers. 

They can also cut payroll by getting rid of Jazz and bringing up Peraza or another minor leaguer. Re-signing Grishma for 5 mill when they could call up Spencer Jones and pay him 800k is also idiotic. Continuing to pay DJ LaMahieu etc - idiotic. 

There's so many ways they can cut payroll to sign a Soto and Burnes/Fried + another legit player.

Cashman just doesnt have the creativity. 

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 12/2/2024 at 6:30 PM, Barton said:

Schmidt has to be in the rotation. Has a variety of pitches, was a 1st rd pick and had an ERA under 3.0 last year

Schmidt is a total JAGoff

[Rich Thornburgh]

On 12/3/2024 at 3:58 AM, Barton said:

Pretty weird the Yankees had to up their offer to Soto last week. Pretty much they low-balled it on their first offer.

There's plenty of payroll room to pay Soto 50 mill a a year. Plenty. Look at all the guys coming off the books (Verdugo, Gleyber, Rizzo, Holmes etc). 

Dodgers dont operate on a budget. Hal shouldnt be either. 

They should be signing Soto AND 1 of the elite starting pitchers. 

They can also cut payroll by getting rid of Jazz and bringing up Peraza or another minor leaguer. Re-signing Grishma for 5 mill when they could call up Spencer Jones and pay him 800k is also idiotic. Continuing to pay DJ LaMahieu etc - idiotic. 

There's so many ways they can cut payroll to sign a Soto and Burnes/Fried + another legit player.

Cashman just doesnt have the creativity. 

Why get rid of Jazz? He was good last season and can play multiple infield positions.  He is also if anything cheap his salary next season is $6.7 million 

 

Yankees can’t cut DJ.  If they could they would have done so years ago.  Maybe we could salary dump Stanton in a trade because he was such a beast in the playoffs but we would probably also have to include Dominguez and/or Jones

[Barton]

27 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Why get rid of Jazz? He was good last season and can play multiple infield positions.  He is also if anything cheap his salary next season is $6.7 million 

 

Yankees can’t cut DJ.  If they could they would have done so years ago.  Maybe we could salary dump Stanton in a trade because he was such a beast in the playoffs but we would probably also have to include Dominguez and/or Jones

Jazz is just a low IQ player, in my opinion. Defense is also not very good. Low batting avg, low OBP, swings at everything etc. he has some upside but thus far he hasn’t put it all together yet.