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54 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Yeah.  More patience is all we need when the QB turns 41 in a month and the margin for error at 3-6 is precisely zero.  Sounds great.

They can still get a participation ribbon....

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You guys are the most negative mother****ers I have ever seen . I know I know Jets..... but come on all the guy was saying is this sh*t does not happen in a day .. At the beginning of the season I suggested it takes at least 6-8 games before teams with a lot of new players get on track. I also said I hope we can still be in the mix at 4-4 or 5-3 with a couple of breaks maybe better but this team go Zero breaks made bone headed plays and we are at 3-6 unfortunately . That does not discount the fact it takes time for this to develop we just didnt get any help and shot ourselves in the foot. NOW lets hope we can get on a roll.
There is no reason this team can't get better every week moving forward we got Miami twice and Buffalo both teams are very beatable and by all accounts we should have beat Buffalo
Shhhhhhh....

Common sense and a level head doesn't work here sir.

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4 hours ago, varjet said:

Rodgers and Adams see the Johnsons as their marks to roll for about $70mm in total next year. 

I think it’s better than 50/50 they get it.  

Meh, that seems extremely unlikely (way less than 50/50). I doubt there's even a 1 in 100 chance that Adams gets $37MM in his age 32-33 season next year, probably coming off an ~800-yard 2024 season. More likely a pay drop to about half that.

Rodgers, though, yeah probably (assuming he even wants to play - or play here - another year, and if the feeling is mutual on the Jets' side).

In 2025 NFL finances, $37.5MM will be a pretty low price for a veteran starter. Actually it will be bottom-5 pay among ~22 veteran starting QBs along with Carr, Geno, Mayfield, and probably Darnold (figuring Jones gets cut).

Yeah there'll be other veterans (Minshew, Flacco, Brissett, Dalton, Jones, etc.) making a lot less who may become starters for some or most of the season, but 17 starts won't what their teams want out of them from their offseason planning. The only other starters making well below the $35MM threshold will be rookies playing under their capped rookie deals.

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1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Meh, that seems extremely unlikely (way less than 50/50). I doubt there's even a 1 in 100 chance that Adams gets $37MM in his age 32-33 season next year, probably coming off an ~800-yard 2024 season. More likely a pay drop to about half that.

Rodgers, though, yeah probably (assuming he even wants to play - or play here - another year, and if the feeling is mutual on the Jets' side).

In 2025 NFL finances, $37.5MM will be a pretty low price for a veteran starter. Actually it will be bottom-5 pay among ~22 veteran starting QBs along with Carr, Geno, Mayfield, and probably Darnold (figuring Jones gets cut).

Yeah there'll be other veterans (Minshew, Flacco, Brissett, Dalton, Jones, etc.) making a lot less who may become starters for some or most of the season, but 17 starts won't what their teams want out of them from their offseason planning. The only other starters making well below the $35MM threshold will be rookies playing under their capped rookie deals.

The problem with Rodgers is that his cap hits for years 1 and 2 are backended.  So paying him for a 2025 which could have a weaker roster than 2026 makes the future harder to build. 

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7 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Yeah.  More patience is all we need when the QB turns 41 in a month and the margin for error at 3-6 is precisely zero.  Sounds great.

I don't think he knows how old some of us fans really are lol...

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I fully agree with Devante Adams. Mostly because I am an adult human with a modicum of intelligence.

He should have qualified his statement by acknowledging the infinite patience the fan base has demonstrated since '69.

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16 minutes ago, varjet said:

The problem with Rodgers is that his cap hits for years 1 and 2 are backended.  So paying him for a 2025 which could have a weaker roster than 2026 makes the future harder to build. 

Yeah no doubt, but they used the benefit of that.

Also the same way they backloaded him they can backload others when his hits come up.

If he does retire I do think he'll hold off until after June 1st to make it official so the $49MM gets spread over two years. It's a huge chunk but the cap keeps going up and really the way to weather that is to go with a rookie QB next. If he sticks for a 3rd year, the way it's currently structured they're again pushing most of it past 2025 which will leave a $63MM dead space (again it'll presumably be spread over two years).

If they somehow pull out a winner then no one cares about a year of cap hell, and there are so many ways of bending that around that you don't have to do a full cap-reset tank season. Like, the Saints have been in a terrible cap situation since they kept pushing off hits for Brees & others, never did that mulligan reset year, and still signed Carr and extended others. They're currently projected at somewhere around $80MM over the cap for next year. The Jets are about $40MM under ($120MM more cap space than the Saints) and that's presuming things that'll never happen, like paying Davante Adams $36MM+ for his age 32-33 season; even the day it was signed, his 5-year contract was always a 3-year contract plus 2 phony years he was never going to see.

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3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said:

Meh, that seems extremely unlikely (way less than 50/50). I doubt there's even a 1 in 100 chance that Adams gets $37MM in his age 32-33 season next year, probably coming off an ~800-yard 2024 season. More likely a pay drop to about half that.

Rodgers, though, yeah probably (assuming he even wants to play - or play here - another year, and if the feeling is mutual on the Jets' side).

In 2025 NFL finances, $37.5MM will be a pretty low price for a veteran starter. Actually it will be bottom-5 pay among ~22 veteran starting QBs along with Carr, Geno, Mayfield, and probably Darnold (figuring Jones gets cut).

Yeah there'll be other veterans (Minshew, Flacco, Brissett, Dalton, Jones, etc.) making a lot less who may become starters for some or most of the season, but 17 starts won't what their teams want out of them from their offseason planning. The only other starters making well below the $35MM threshold will be rookies playing under their capped rookie deals.

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Sperm doubts Adams will get $37 million next year due to age and performance but thinks Rodgers might. Notes that by 2025, $37.5 million will be a low salary for veteran starting QBs.

 

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8 hours ago, Smashmouth said:

You guys are the most negative mother****ers I have ever seen . I know I know Jets..... but come on all the guy was saying is this sh*t does not happen in a day .. At the beginning of the season I suggested it takes at least 6-8 games before teams with a lot of new players get on track. I also said I hope we can still be in the mix at 4-4 or 5-3 with a couple of breaks maybe better but this team go Zero breaks made bone headed plays and we are at 3-6 unfortunately . That does not discount the fact it takes time for this to develop we just didnt get any help and shot ourselves in the foot. NOW lets hope we can get on a roll.

There is no reason this team can't get better every week moving forward we got Miami twice and Buffalo both teams are very beatable and by all accounts we should have beat Buffalo

This Arizona game will tell us if can make a run. They can run the football. Our defenses weakness. They have a weak defense. Our offense, if it's truly coming together, should have a great day.

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Am I missing something it seems he just said Rome wasn't built in a day?  I am assuming he means his production with his new team improved a bit in his last game and he is pumped.  I didn't dig in further did he make some reference to us fans not showing him patience or support or is it just all the scars we have that is making us look at it this way? 

PS: none of this will matter once our asses have been kicked in AZ and we fly home from another west coast trip in shame.  Can't remember the last time we've come back from CA, AZ, or Seattle with a win, probably the game we beat the Rams to lose the #1 overall pick.    

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