The radical plan for fixing the Jets, stat

[T0mShane]

The Jets have Colts, BYE, Seahawks, Jags, Dolphins (twice), Rams, and Bills left on the schedule. As of today, they have a 10% chance of making the playoffs, but it’d require winning out while five different AFC teams absolutely collapse. This is all about 2025 and forward at this point.

1. Fire Joe Douglas today: free him from his misery and start down the path of finding not just a GM, but a personnel savant/ triage specialist who can start setting the table for the offseason. They are in a transition phase and Woody needs a real, credible human to guide that transition, and not just in practical terms, but also in terms of perception. It’s about to get very ugly at Florham Park and it can’t be Woody Johnson out in front of it doing the interviews and establishing the road ahead. Prospective coaches won’t even pick up the phone.

2. At the BYE, release both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams: There are teams in the league desperate for receiver help, and the Cowboys need a QB. Let them have Adams and Rodgers because you don’t want either guy attached to your organization while it burns down. Davante is here in the first place because he straight up quit on the Raiders. Rodgers is actively hurting the team every time he deigns to take a snap, and they need to be freed of his pernicious rat****ing ways. Is this extreme? Yeah, but the alternative is that you’re burdened with their corpses the rest of the way, then you spend all offseason trying to get both of them to restructure or retire, which is a waste of time. Cut bait now and begin the healing process.

3. Sign Mike White off the Bills practice squad: Morale booster rocketship.

4. Sign Ryan Tannehill: good guy, capable hand, and…

5. Court Vrabel: Is Vrabel a great coach? Maybe not, but he’s exactly the type of no-bullsh*t, face of the franchise leader that this org desperately needs. It’s hard to know if he’d take it because of the Belichick ties, but there might not be a market for Vrabel this offseason and he might just settle on the Jets. The A1 job for any future HC is to build a moat around football ops so Woody can’t interfere. Vrabel can do that and will do that. 

[Adoni Beast]

Love the plan and wish we would actually do it. But the truth is…

1. Woody will let Joe Douglas remain to be a figure of guilt to assume blame for this disaster, like he did with Tanny in 2012 when everyone knew he was toast but let him dangle until the final whistle.

2. Unfortunately, I believe that both of them are back next year unless Rodgers decides to retire himself. I just don’t see his ego letting him go out like this though and Davante is going to go out with him. I think Rodgers/Davante have already sold their pitch that next year is it and they can “help” recruit GM/HC. It’s all nonsense so we’re essentially screwed.

3 + 4. Become null and void due to 2.

5. Yes and I do think Vrabel is a really good coach and exactly the type that we’ll need here to change things. Vrabel never had a HOF QB or that talented of a roster but always had them prepared and playing hard. Unfortunately, I think he probably already has one foot in the Cleveland HC job.

[Matt39]

Until Woody comes out publicly and says he’s failed the organization and there’s going to be a 180 shift all of this useless. The team can’t be fixed until he completely steps away, his brother steps away, and his advisors step away. He’s also got to pay someone double to come here and fix it, which he won’t do either.

[Maxta_p]

I'm honestly shocked there is still a path to the playoffs after the past couple of losses. I don't think the administration will make these moves knowing we aren't mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

[Saul Goodman]

1 minute ago, Maxta_p said:

I'm honestly shocked there is still a path to the playoffs after the past couple of losses. I don't think the administration will make these moves knowing we aren't mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.

We need to lose out, every game, hopefully getting blown out. That is what is best for the franchise, so that change is made. 

[Augustiniak]

10 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Love the plan and wish we would actually do it. But the truth is…

1. Woody will let Joe Douglas remain to be a figure of guilt to assume blame for this disaster, like he did with Tanny in 2012 when everyone knew he was toast but let him dangle until the final whistle.

2. Unfortunately, I believe that both of them are back next year unless Rodgers decides to retire himself. I just don’t see his ego letting him go out like this though and Davante is going to go out with him. I think Rodgers/Davante have already sold their pitch that next year is it and they can “help” recruit GM/HC. It’s all nonsense so we’re essentially screwed.

3 + 4. Become null and void due to 2.

5. Yes and I do think Vrabel is a really good coach and exactly the type that we’ll need here to change things. Vrabel never had a HOF QB or that talented of a roster but always had them prepared and playing hard. Unfortunately, I think he probably already has one foot in the Cleveland HC job.

If rodgers returns as the starter, and nothing much else changes, isn’t that an implicit acknowledgment that they’re not making the playoffs next year?  Sure the d could get reinforcements on the DL and likely that top 10 pick will be used for that.  But rodgers isn’t getting any faster, or savvier.  The problems with the team are basically everywhere and the coaching sucks.  So if rodgers returns it’s a wasted year.  

[slimjasi]

Mike White lol 

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

The Jets aren’t a team.

Nobody is on the same page in terms of the playbook and execution.

They’re a collection of individual guys doing their own thing.

The Jets spend way too much time on slogans and emotion and not enough on how to play football the right way, gameplanning and basic execution.

And I mean does it matter how many Davante Adams’ you have on your roster when you can’t do basic things like tackle when you have a guy dead to rights?

Trying to go high on a 265 lb TE who already has a head of steam is just stupid.

You have to take the guy’s legs out.

Gardner looked like a child jumping on his dad’s back for a joyride.

[RedBeardedSavage]

Love points 1 and 2, and genuinely believe we should just pull the trigger and blow it up at this point.

It starts to become less appealing after that, especially Vrabel. 

But lets start with the firings, that's for damn sure!

[Jack Straw]

Mike Vrabel is a good coach, but he’s not the type to transform the whole scouting, GM, and operations side. Vrabel could bring discipline, but the Jets need someone with enough clout to rebuild the entire foundation, not just lead on game day.

That leaves us with one real choice: Pete Carroll. He’s got the resumè to tell Woody/Christopher to die in a house fire in the event that they attempt a coup or pull strings for guys like Zach Wilson/Aaron Rodgers. Carroll also has the connections to bring in a solid GM, team president, scouts — everything needed to rebuild a franchise from the ground up.

The plan should be for Carroll to be the Head Coach for 3-5 years, with a clear path to move up to a President-type role if/when he turns things around. Give him full control to clean up this team, from the locker room to the front office.

This isn’t about quick fixes or halfway measures; this is about a total reset. If the Jets are serious about changing their culture, Pete Carroll might be the only guy who can make it happen.

[Adoni Beast]

11 minutes ago, Augustiniak said:

If rodgers returns as the starter, and nothing much else changes, isn’t that an implicit acknowledgment that they’re not making the playoffs next year?  Sure the d could get reinforcements on the DL and likely that top 10 pick will be used for that.  But rodgers isn’t getting any faster, or savvier.  The problems with the team are basically everywhere and the coaching sucks.  So if rodgers returns it’s a wasted year.  

Yup 100% agree. I don’t want Rodgers back I just think that both sides ultimately determine.

Rodgers gets his last shot at some sort of redemption + lotta $

Jets sell this is a bridge to the next era and lean on Rodgers “expertise” to recruit and hire GM/HC.

[Waka Flocka Flacco]

Somebody has to be in charge and everybody has to know who it is. Cher chez la quarterback. Build through the draft. That’s all there is. Every permutation of this works. Nothing that isn’t this works.

[TuscanyTile2]

37 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Jets have Colts, BYE, Seahawks, Jags, Dolphins (twice), Rams, and Bills left on the schedule. As of today, they have a 10% chance of making the playoffs, but it’d require winning out while five different AFC teams absolutely collapse. This is all about 2025 and forward at this point.

1. Fire Joe Douglas today: free him from his misery and start down the path of finding not just a GM, but a personnel savant/ triage specialist who can start setting the table for the offseason. They are in a transition phase and Woody needs a real, credible human to guide that transition, and not just in practical terms, but also in terms of perception. It’s about to get very ugly at Florham Park and it can’t be Woody Johnson out in front of it doing the interviews and establishing the road ahead. Prospective coaches won’t even pick up the phone.

2. At the BYE, release both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams: There are teams in the league desperate for receiver help, and the Cowboys need a QB. Let them have Adams and Rodgers because you don’t want either guy attached to your organization while it burns down. Davante is here in the first place because he straight up quit on the Raiders. Rodgers is actively hurting the team every time he deigns to take a snap, and they need to be freed of his pernicious rat****ing ways. Is this extreme? Yeah, but the alternative is that you’re burdened with their corpses the rest of the way, then you spend all offseason trying to get both of them to restructure or retire, which is a waste of time. Cut bait now and begin the healing process.

3. Sign Mike White off the Bills practice squad: Morale booster rocketship.

4. Sign Ryan Tannehill: good guy, capable hand, and…

5. Court Vrabel: Is Vrabel a great coach? Maybe not, but he’s exactly the type of no-bullsh*t, face of the franchise leader that this org desperately needs. It’s hard to know if he’d take it because of the Belichick ties, but there might not be a market for Vrabel this offseason and he might just settle on the Jets. The A1 job for any future HC is to build a moat around football ops so Woody can’t interfere. Vrabel can do that and will do that. 

None of this makes sense, at least right now.  First off, until we get to 9 losses, the Jets will probably still at least try to pull off the impossible and go 6-1 or 7-0.  So releasing AR8 and Devante will be off the table until at least then.  But I think we have to pay AR8 regardless, so maybe we can trade him in the offseason?  (pretty sure the trade deadline for this year passed)  Sure it'll be for minimal return, but that's better than nothing, no?

What does firing JD right now accomplish?  And who are we replacing him with?  Mike Vrabel is a consultant for the Cleveland Browns so we can't talk to him until after the season.

Love Mike White and would be perfectly fine bringing him back but, right now, he'd be a 3rd stringer for us so it would make no difference.

Tannehill?  Meh

I like these moves once the season ends though.  We have to move on from AR8 and the vets like Devante.  I'd love to bring Vrabel in here (though I think he might laugh in our faces) and Mike White would be a great interim QB for a rebuilding season.

[slimjasi]

18 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said:

We need to lose out, every game, hopefully getting blown out. That is what is best for the franchise, so that change is made. 

We all know the meaningless wins are coming. Losing out is almost as unrealistic as winning out. The jets are the champions of meaningless December games. 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

It’s coaching, or at least 90% coaching.

I believe the Jets have the personnel necessary to not look like dogsh-t everywhere except on the DL and maybe LB.

Quincy is a bit overrated (he’s too unreliable as a tackler despite the splash plays) and Sherwood is undersized — he looks like a safety converted to LB because that’s what he is.

It’s downright criminal the lack of effective beef up front.

 

[Maynard13]

44 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Jets have Colts, BYE, Seahawks, Jags, Dolphins (twice), Rams, and Bills left on the schedule. As of today, they have a 10% chance of making the playoffs, but it’d require winning out while five different AFC teams absolutely collapse. This is all about 2025 and forward at this point.

1. Fire Joe Douglas today: free him from his misery and start down the path of finding not just a GM, but a personnel savant/ triage specialist who can start setting the table for the offseason. They are in a transition phase and Woody needs a real, credible human to guide that transition, and not just in practical terms, but also in terms of perception. It’s about to get very ugly at Florham Park and it can’t be Woody Johnson out in front of it doing the interviews and establishing the road ahead. Prospective coaches won’t even pick up the phone.

2. At the BYE, release both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams: There are teams in the league desperate for receiver help, and the Cowboys need a QB. Let them have Adams and Rodgers because you don’t want either guy attached to your organization while it burns down. Davante is here in the first place because he straight up quit on the Raiders. Rodgers is actively hurting the team every time he deigns to take a snap, and they need to be freed of his pernicious rat****ing ways. Is this extreme? Yeah, but the alternative is that you’re burdened with their corpses the rest of the way, then you spend all offseason trying to get both of them to restructure or retire, which is a waste of time. Cut bait now and begin the healing process.

3. Sign Mike White off the Bills practice squad: Morale booster rocketship.

4. Sign Ryan Tannehill: good guy, capable hand, and…

5. Court Vrabel: Is Vrabel a great coach? Maybe not, but he’s exactly the type of no-bullsh*t, face of the franchise leader that this org desperately needs. It’s hard to know if he’d take it because of the Belichick ties, but there might not be a market for Vrabel this offseason and he might just settle on the Jets. The A1 job for any future HC is to build a moat around football ops so Woody can’t interfere. Vrabel can do that and will do that. 

I knew before even reading this, it was a Mike White thread in disguise 🥸 

[Dcat]

47 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Jets have Colts, BYE, Seahawks, Jags, Dolphins (twice), Rams, and Bills left on the schedule. As of today, they have a 10% chance of making the playoffs, but it’d require winning out while five different AFC teams absolutely collapse. This is all about 2025 and forward at this point.

1. Fire Joe Douglas today: free him from his misery and start down the path of finding not just a GM, but a personnel savant/ triage specialist who can start setting the table for the offseason. They are in a transition phase and Woody needs a real, credible human to guide that transition, and not just in practical terms, but also in terms of perception. It’s about to get very ugly at Florham Park and it can’t be Woody Johnson out in front of it doing the interviews and establishing the road ahead. Prospective coaches won’t even pick up the phone.

2. At the BYE, release both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams: There are teams in the league desperate for receiver help, and the Cowboys need a QB. Let them have Adams and Rodgers because you don’t want either guy attached to your organization while it burns down. Davante is here in the first place because he straight up quit on the Raiders. Rodgers is actively hurting the team every time he deigns to take a snap, and they need to be freed of his pernicious rat****ing ways. Is this extreme? Yeah, but the alternative is that you’re burdened with their corpses the rest of the way, then you spend all offseason trying to get both of them to restructure or retire, which is a waste of time. Cut bait now and begin the healing process.

3. Sign Mike White off the Bills practice squad: Morale booster rocketship.

4. Sign Ryan Tannehill: good guy, capable hand, and…

5. Court Vrabel: Is Vrabel a great coach? Maybe not, but he’s exactly the type of no-bullsh*t, face of the franchise leader that this org desperately needs. It’s hard to know if he’d take it because of the Belichick ties, but there might not be a market for Vrabel this offseason and he might just settle on the Jets. The A1 job for any future HC is to build a moat around football ops so Woody can’t interfere. Vrabel can do that and will do that. 

Yes to #1.  The others are all bad. In fact, #3,4 & 5 are ridiculous.

[The Crusher]

48 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

The Jets have Colts, BYE, Seahawks, Jags, Dolphins (twice), Rams, and Bills left on the schedule. As of today, they have a 10% chance of making the playoffs, but it’d require winning out while five different AFC teams absolutely collapse. This is all about 2025 and forward at this point.

1. Fire Joe Douglas today: free him from his misery and start down the path of finding not just a GM, but a personnel savant/ triage specialist who can start setting the table for the offseason. They are in a transition phase and Woody needs a real, credible human to guide that transition, and not just in practical terms, but also in terms of perception. It’s about to get very ugly at Florham Park and it can’t be Woody Johnson out in front of it doing the interviews and establishing the road ahead. Prospective coaches won’t even pick up the phone.

2. At the BYE, release both Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams: There are teams in the league desperate for receiver help, and the Cowboys need a QB. Let them have Adams and Rodgers because you don’t want either guy attached to your organization while it burns down. Davante is here in the first place because he straight up quit on the Raiders. Rodgers is actively hurting the team every time he deigns to take a snap, and they need to be freed of his pernicious rat****ing ways. Is this extreme? Yeah, but the alternative is that you’re burdened with their corpses the rest of the way, then you spend all offseason trying to get both of them to restructure or retire, which is a waste of time. Cut bait now and begin the healing process.

3. Sign Mike White off the Bills practice squad: Morale booster rocketship.

4. Sign Ryan Tannehill: good guy, capable hand, and…

5. Court Vrabel: Is Vrabel a great coach? Maybe not, but he’s exactly the type of no-bullsh*t, face of the franchise leader that this org desperately needs. It’s hard to know if he’d take it because of the Belichick ties, but there might not be a market for Vrabel this offseason and he might just settle on the Jets. The A1 job for any future HC is to build a moat around football ops so Woody can’t interfere. Vrabel can do that and will do that. 

Lost me at 3

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

There’s no leadership and no accountability.

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results:

Why am I still watching Javon effing Kinlaw and Micheal Clemons play after play after play?

Those losers should be riding the bench.

Let me see Leonard Taylor.  The season’s over.  Let me see more of him.

Ulbrich sucks and that shouldn’t be surprising because he was hired by genius Bob.

Whitecotton and all these other stiffs too.

The only unit that looked competent yesterday was ST and Boyer is the one guy Saleh didn’t bring in.

[Maynard13]

45 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Love the plan and wish we would actually do it. But the truth is…

1. Woody will let Joe Douglas remain to be a figure of guilt to assume blame for this disaster, like he did with Tanny in 2012 when everyone knew he was toast but let him dangle until the final whistle.

2. Unfortunately, I believe that both of them are back next year unless Rodgers decides to retire himself. I just don’t see his ego letting him go out like this though and Davante is going to go out with him. I think Rodgers/Davante have already sold their pitch that next year is it and they can “help” recruit GM/HC. It’s all nonsense so we’re essentially screwed.

3 + 4. Become null and void due to 2.

5. Yes and I do think Vrabel is a really good coach and exactly the type that we’ll need here to change things. Vrabel never had a HOF QB or that talented of a roster but always had them prepared and playing hard. Unfortunately, I think he probably already has one foot in the Cleveland HC job.

Who wants to go to Cleveland? That organization is worse than ours and nobody visits Cleveland. If they do, they are never heard of again. 

[Maynard13]

1 minute ago, Dcat said:

Yes to #1.  The others are all bad. In fact, #3,4 & 5 are ridiculous.

So is #2 a #2 as well?

[Dcat]

Just now, Maynard13 said:

So is #2 a #2 as well?

yes.  But I'd love to see it go down just for the sake of seeing Adams and Rodgers kicked to the curb. Emotionally satisfying although bad for the team economics (which are ruined anyway).

[Maynard13]

24 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Mike Vrabel is a good coach, but he’s not the type to transform the whole scouting, GM, and operations side. Vrabel could bring discipline, but the Jets need someone with enough clout to rebuild the entire foundation, not just lead on game day.

That leaves us with one real choice: Pete Carroll. He’s got the resumè to tell Woody/Christopher to die in a house fire in the event that they attempt a coup or pull strings for guys like Zach Wilson/Aaron Rodgers. Carroll also has the connections to bring in a solid GM, team president, scouts — everything needed to rebuild a franchise from the ground up.

The plan should be for Carroll to be the Head Coach for 3-5 years, with a clear path to move up to a President-type role if/when he turns things around. Give him full control to clean up this team, from the locker room to the front office.

This isn’t about quick fixes or halfway measures; this is about a total reset. If the Jets are serious about changing their culture, Pete Carroll might be the only guy who can make it happen.

Pete Carroll is on Medicare and receiving SSI. Think again. 

[Beerfish]

Would not surprise me if we went for Vrabel, which would be the exact wrong move.

Woody thinks we have the most talented team since he has been owner, he is not firing douglas

If he did fire douglas it will be the old fire the guy after the draft move.

No way would the jets 'disrespect' rodgers by cutting him.

I mean when in my 20's i never should have asked hottie Mary Sue Parker on a date and should have asked girl next door Lily McAdam out instead but we all make foolish mistakes and would rather go down the drain than admit we were wrong.   (Names changed to protect the guilty)

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

Drew Petzing and whoever tf the Cards DC is coached circles around the Jets’ meathead coordinators.

The Jets were completely unprepared for the road crowd noise and game intensity.

I was watching G5 a lot of the time and he looked so disconnected from the team, so dejected walking off the field after every failed drive.

Before the game the only interaction I saw with G5 was him playing catch with Tyrod.

Sauce looks completely checked out and isolated.

I didn’t see him interacting with any of his teammates the entire game.

Whatever swag he had as a rookie has completely vanished.

There’s no communication out there.  No joy.

And when AR wasn’t sitting alone by himself on the bench with his baseball cap 🧢 on, he’d just be with his BFF Davante.

There are no leaders in the locker room.

For all Mosley’s injuries and age and decline, he at least would bring that presence and leadership.

The Jets have nobody like that right now on gameday able to rally the team and instill belief in what they’re trying to do.

[Green Ghost]

31 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

Mike Vrabel is a good coach, but he’s not the type to transform the whole scouting, GM, and operations side. Vrabel could bring discipline, but the Jets need someone with enough clout to rebuild the entire foundation, not just lead on game day.

That leaves us with one real choice: Pete Carroll. He’s got the resumè to tell Woody/Christopher to die in a house fire in the event that they attempt a coup or pull strings for guys like Zach Wilson/Aaron Rodgers. Carroll also has the connections to bring in a solid GM, team president, scouts — everything needed to rebuild a franchise from the ground up.

The plan should be for Carroll to be the Head Coach for 3-5 years, with a clear path to move up to a President-type role if/when he turns things around. Give him full control to clean up this team, from the locker room to the front office.

This isn’t about quick fixes or halfway measures; this is about a total reset. If the Jets are serious about changing their culture, Pete Carroll might be the only guy who can make it happen.

Gimme a break.

Carroll will be spooning applesauce in an assisted living facility in 3-5 years. I can see bringing him in on a two year POFO role to sort out the front office, GM, CS and scouting department though.

[joewilly12]

REX RYAN

[Green Ghost]

13 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

Sauce looks completely checked out and isolated.

I didn’t see him interacting with any of his teammates the entire game.

Whatever swag he had as a rookie has completely vanished.

There’s no communication out there.  No joy.

And when AR wasn’t sitting alone by himself on the bench with his baseball cap 🧢 on, he’d just be with his BFF Davante.

There are no leaders in the locker room.

For all Mosley’s injuries and age and decline, he at least would bring that presence and leadership.

The Jets have nobody like that right now on gameday able to rally the team and instill belief in what they’re trying to do.

Sauce was completely exposed early this season when teams realized he couldn’t tackle they could run right at him.

He was never a “turnover” type corner, because he never looks back to the ball but at least he was able to get away with holding and bumping WRs for two years. Once his lack of tackling ability became apparent, he lost any gravitas he had with the officials, and now they won’t allow him to do that.

At this point he’s a liability out there.

 

[JoeNamathsFurCoat]

9 minutes ago, Green Ghost said:

Gimme a break.

Carroll will be spooning applesauce in an assisted living facility in 3-5 years. I can see bringing him in on a two year POFO role to sort out the front office, GM, CS and scouting department though.

He’s 73

Marv Levy coached into his 80s and 90s

I’d bring him in as head of football operations 

He built successful programs at USC and Seattle, winning their first Lombardi 

And that is exactly what the Jets need:  a proven program builder 

The Jets would be fools to not consider him, and I think he must be dying to get back in the game 

The Jets could sell it as a reunion or sorts as it was Hess who fired Carroll and it had nothing to do with Woody so there’s no bad blood there or at least there shouldn’t be

[Adoni Beast]

19 minutes ago, Maynard13 said:

Who wants to go to Cleveland? That organization is worse than ours and nobody visits Cleveland. If they do, they are never heard of again. 

As a head coach you want to go where you will have control. That team has talent sans the horrible Watson contract (which is a big issue obviously).

The fact that Vrbael is overseeing football ops as a consultant is already a step towards HC with personnel control in the offseason. That hiring was more than just an eyebrow raise in the offseason. It was almost a “okay get to know the team and what you think needs to be changed before you take this job next year.”

[Maynard13]

So an idealistic approach by @T0mShane.   Agree on some points like tossing Rodgers and Davante aside. But I think Woody’s romanticism and fandom of Rodgers will force him to give it the ole college try one more year.  But that would be very tricky and intricate.  Rodgers would be a central consultant to who comes on as HC. McCarthy? Seems like a logical choice.  And JD would more than likely stay on since what GM in his right mind would take the job with Rodgers running the show. Just don’t see Rodgers going anywhere. He’s put a lot of effort in his last hurrah with the Jets. It has been anything but smooth but as long as Woody has his mind made up, Rodgers would return with Davante.  Where would he go? What team would take him on at this point? Not saying I’d want him back. Just being realistic here. Will be fascinating nevertheless to see how this mess transpires. 

[Adoni Beast]

Just now, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

He’s 73

Marv Levy coached into his 80s and 90s

I’d bring him in as head of football operations 

He built a successful programs at USC and Seattle, winning their first Lombardi 

The Jets need a proven program builder 

The Jets would be fools to not consider him, and I think he must be dying to get back in the game 

I’d bring him as Head of Football Ops + Head Coach.

Let him coach for another 4-5 years while grooming an assistant to take over once he steps down as HC.

He is a young 73 which makes a discernible difference to an average 73 who is on an O2 tank and a walker.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

Glad we’re being realistic. 
 

[Maynard13]

4 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

He’s 73

Marv Levy coached into his 80s and 90s

I’d bring him in as head of football operations 

He built successful programs at USC and Seattle, winning their first Lombardi 

And that is exactly what the Jets need:  a proven program builder 

The Jets would be fools to not consider him, and I think he must be dying to get back in the game 

The Jets could sell it as a reunion or sorts as it was Hess who fired Carroll and it had nothing to do with Woody so there’s no bad blood there or at least there shouldn’t be

They can say he’s 37 at the presser and claim it was posted by a dyslexic PR employee. 

[Green Ghost]

4 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said:

He’s 73

Marv Levy coached into his 80s and 90s

I’d bring him in as head of football operations 

He built successful programs at USC and Seattle, winning their first Lombardi 

And that is exactly what the Jets need:  a proven program builder 

The Jets would be fools to not consider him, and I think he must be dying to get back in the game 

The Jets could sell it as a reunion or sorts as it was Hess who fired Carroll and it had nothing to do with Woody so there’s no bad blood there or at least there shouldn’t be

Yeah, okay. Let’s embarrass ourselves further talking about the Jets trying to make a 10 year commitment to the 73yo we screwed years ago.