Rodgers by the numbers thru 10 games

[Jetsfan80]

For those last few holdovers who still refuse to admit Rodgers is even a small part of the problem...

 

Yardage

• Yards:  2258 (9th)
• Yards/Game:  225.8 (15th)
• Longest Completion:  57 (t-21st)
• Intended Air Yards per PA:  6.8 (30th)
• Completed Air Yards per PA:  3.2 (26th)
• YAC per Completion:  5.2 (19th)

Touchdowns/Interceptions

• TDs:  15 (t-8th)
• TD %:  4.3 (18th)
• INTs:  7 (t-10th most)
• INT %:  2.0 (13th)

Accuracy

• Completion %:  62.4 (29th)
• Expected Completion %:  67.1 (10th)
• Completion over Expected %:  -4.7 (37th)
• On Target %:  67.3 (28th)
• Bad Throw %:  16.7 (26th)

Rating

• QB Rating:  86.8 (23rd)
• QBR:  52.1 (26th)

Efficiency

• Yards/Attempt:  6.4 (26th)
• Adjusted YPA:  6.39 (24th)
• Net YPA:  5.56 (28th)
• Adjusted Net YPA:  5.52 (24th)
• Success Rate %:  44.4 (20th)
• 1st Downs:  114 (8th)

Pressure

• Sacks Taken:  23 (t-9th most)
• Sack %:  6.15 (15th)
• Pressure %:  18.6 (14th)
• Pocket Time (seconds):   2.1 (t-23rd)
• Time to Throw (seconds):  2.57 (37th)

Play Action

• Yardage on Play Action throws:  268 (24th)
• Play Action Pass Attempts:  50 (t-12th)
• Play Action Yardage per Attempt:  5.36 (32nd)

[dbatesman]

Remember when people were creaming their jeans about this trade

[Jack Straw]

Rodgers' doesn't want to get hit anymore, which is understandable. He's looking to get rid of the ball accurately and on time, and unfortunately, that is not happening on a consistent basis. 

Adams looks washed and unable to get downfield. Wilson has never been a "go" receiver, with his best work coming on intermediate routes.

Rodgers is finished, for all intent and purposes. He is a shell of what he used to be -- a true NY Jet if there ever was one.

[Larz]

Guess the problem wasn’t Zach 

 

[Dcat]

7 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

 

• Time to Throw (seconds):  2.57 (37th)

LOL.  Every single stat seems like the Jets would be 37th out of 32.

[Dcat]

4 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Remember when people were creaming their jeans about this trade

sure.  So?  We all had hopes, whether we liked the trade or not.  Once again, the NY Jets let its fans down.  Hard.  I thought the trade was really stupid, but on the other side I was excited to finally be able to see real NFL QB'ing.  Sadly, it didn't happen.  

[Vader]

Do one for the defense now.

And then for the OL.

And then for Breece Hall.

And then for the PK. 

Etcetera 

 

[BroadwayRay]

Beyond the stats, he's been inconsistent and indecisive in the pocket. God knows why, but he's nervous about throwing the ball downfield and has mostly run a dink-and-dunk offense that has problems with third downs and the red zone. When the Jets got him, the narrative was that he would be a Hall of Fame QB that would uplift the team. But he hasn't uplifted sh*t. If anything, all his moping and complaining has had a negative impact on team morale. 

[jeremy2020]

14 minutes ago, Vader said:

Do one for the defense now.

And then for the OL.

And then for Breece Hall.

And then for the PK. 

Etcetera

Yes or no. Is Rodgers even a small part of the problem?

[Vader]

2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Yes or no. Is Rodgers even a small part of the problem?

If you expected MVP, pre-injury Rodgers to carry the defense, coaching staff, and special teams then yes.

If you had different expectations, the ones that were actually advertised, like "the defense will carry us" and Rodgers doesn't need to be MVP Rodgers, he can just be 80% Rodgers bc that will be enough, then no, not really.

11 days ago he threw 3 TDs in the second half and it is no surprise these Aaron Rodgers is a bum Stans evaporated from the board. And after yesterday, he orchestrates 4 long drives but can't punch it in on any, and so now he's trash. 

This is the reality. This is just going to continue. I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is the problem with this team, or with the locker room, and I don't think it's particularly close. 

[JiFtheOracle]

4 minutes ago, Vader said:

If you expected MVP, pre-injury Rodgers to carry the defense, coaching staff, and special teams then yes.

If you had different expectations, the ones that were actually advertised, like "the defense will carry us" and Rodgers doesn't need to be MVP Rodgers, he can just be 80% Rodgers bc that will be enough, then no, not really.

11 days ago he threw 3 TDs in the second half and it is no surprise these Aaron Rodgers is a bum Stans evaporated from the board. And after yesterday, he orchestrates 4 long drives but can't punch it in on any, and so now he's trash. 

This is the reality. This is just going to continue. I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is the problem with this team, or with the locker room, and I don't think it's particularly close. 

Typically, when you're QB sucks, it's a problem and yes, lots of other things can suck too but QB sucking is a pretty big issue and Rodgers, sucks. 

 

[Vader]

Just now, JiFtheOracle said:

Typically, when you're QB sucks, it's a problem and yes, lots of other things can suck too but QB sucking is a pretty big issue and Rodgers, sucks. 

 

thank you for proving my point. 

[rtnelson]

Is there some brain draining lead in the water in Florham Park or something?  There's something about this team....

[Biggs]

8 minutes ago, Vader said:

If you expected MVP, pre-injury Rodgers to carry the defense, coaching staff, and special teams then yes.

If you had different expectations, the ones that were actually advertised, like "the defense will carry us" and Rodgers doesn't need to be MVP Rodgers, he can just be 80% Rodgers bc that will be enough, then no, not really.

11 days ago he threw 3 TDs in the second half and it is no surprise these Aaron Rodgers is a bum Stans evaporated from the board. And after yesterday, he orchestrates 4 long drives but can't punch it in on any, and so now he's trash. 

This is the reality. This is just going to continue. I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is the problem with this team, or with the locker room, and I don't think it's particularly close. 

D is 10th in yards, 7th in points allowed.   The O is 26th in yards, 26th in points.  

Rodgers got his OC, His All pro WR and his No. 2 WR.   The team absolutely hates him for bringing in Hackett.  Hall and Wilson look like the want to get off the team.  

Ulbrich and Todd Downing had to go out of their way to lick Hackett's and Rodgers ass in their opening press confrences.  

Rodgers is a huge part of the problem with the entire team.   They hate him.

[Fantasy Island]

1 hour ago, Jack Straw said:

Rodgers' doesn't want to get hit anymore, which is understandable. He's looking to get rid of the ball accurately and on time, and unfortunately, that is not happening on a consistent basis. 

Adams looks washed and unable to get downfield. Wilson has never been a "go" receiver, with his best work coming on intermediate routes.

Rodgers is finished, for all intent and purposes. He is a shell of what he used to be -- a true NY Jet if there ever was one.

Never wanted that mercurial mess here.  Yet everyone said we got the best.  
 

Zach Rodgers sucks and doesn’t have the aptitude to adjust to his players skills.  We actually traded for a guy that his team wanted to cut.

What the ever loving f***!

[Augustiniak]

Rodgers has 43 rushing yards on the year.  The jets lose a key element of a passing attack when your qb can’t run for first downs.  How many times have qbs done it to the jets esp. on 3rd down.  The jets would be better off with milroe

[Vader]

6 minutes ago, Biggs said:

D is 10th in yards, 7th in points allowed.   The O is 26th in yards, 26th in points.  

Rodgers got his OC, His All pro WR and his No. 2 WR.   The team absolutely hates him for bringing in Hackett.  Hall and Wilson look like the want to get off the team.  

Ulbrich and Todd Downing had to go out of their way to lick Hackett's and Rodgers ass in their opening press confrences.  

Rodgers is a huge part of the problem with the entire team.   They hate him.

Biggs, these stats have limited value because of the extreme variance from game to game and from run to pass and because of other noise. They don't show what is clear to the eye -- the defense is currently terrible, cannot tackle, can not cover, and trending worse after the Saleh firing. 

The run defense, penalty and tackling statistics are particularly interesting.

[Fantasy Island]

51 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

Yes or no. Is Rodgers even a small part of the problem?

He is the problem 

[jeremy2020]

31 minutes ago, Vader said:

If you expected MVP, pre-injury Rodgers to carry the defense, coaching staff, and special teams then yes.

If you had different expectations, the ones that were actually advertised, like "the defense will carry us" and Rodgers doesn't need to be MVP Rodgers, he can just be 80% Rodgers bc that will be enough, then no, not really.

11 days ago he threw 3 TDs in the second half and it is no surprise these Aaron Rodgers is a bum Stans evaporated from the board. And after yesterday, he orchestrates 4 long drives but can't punch it in on any, and so now he's trash. 

This is the reality. This is just going to continue. I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is the problem with this team, or with the locker room, and I don't think it's particularly close. 

You can't even admit that he's even a tiny bit of the problem. ROFL. We didn't need someone to take over for @bicketybam and @Joe W. Namath

[dbatesman]

1 hour ago, Dcat said:

sure.  So?  We all had hopes, whether we liked the trade or not.  Once again, the NY Jets let its fans down.  Hard.  I thought the trade was really stupid, but on the other side I was excited to finally be able to see real NFL QB'ing.  Sadly, it didn't happen.  

So nothing. I hated this trade from the beginning and my personal victory lap is now the only enjoyable part of this execrable season. 

[Saul Goodman]

54 minutes ago, Larz said:

Guess the problem wasn’t Zach 

 

Zach was one of the top-3 biggest problems with the Jets (coaching and offensive line being the others). Unfortunately we tried to take a shortcut and replace him with a washed up quarterback. 

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

Yes or no. Is Rodgers even a small part of the problem?

A sizable contingent of this board can’t imagine multiple things being true at once.  It can’t be that the Coaching, Defense, offensive supporting cast, Special Teams AND QB all suck.  Only 4/5 of those can be true!

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, Vader said:

Do one for the defense now.

And then for the OL.

And then for Breece Hall.

And then for the PK. 

Etcetera 

 

No.

Because we’ve already well established that all of those have either sucked or disappointed.  Why can’t you admit Rodgers hasn’t played anywhere close to expectation?

[ChewyandtheJets]

Those stats while not particularly good still seem inflated based on the eye test.  The Rodgers experiment was essentially over 4 plays into his Jets career.  The short pass, fear of getting hit, and inaccuracy on the rare occasion he goes downfield I think can very reasonably be attributed to his torn Achilles.  Lets at least acknowledge that if we are going to fairly evaluate the trade.  Personally I was excited to get him but agree that the compensation (a 2nd and 1st that was downgraded due to his playing time) was an incredible overpay to take on a player with a time bomb of a contact that no other team wanted.  It was the beginning of the neutering of Joe Douglas as the compensation must have been negotiated with our dim witted owner.  If I have one request its that we never again talk about how someone is "tearing it up" in practice when there is no pass rush and limited contact.  Every time I hear it I now understand that player will contribute nothing to the team that season.

[extmenace]

49 minutes ago, Vader said:

If you expected MVP, pre-injury Rodgers to carry the defense, coaching staff, and special teams then yes.

If you had different expectations, the ones that were actually advertised, like "the defense will carry us" and Rodgers doesn't need to be MVP Rodgers, he can just be 80% Rodgers bc that will be enough, then no, not really.

11 days ago he threw 3 TDs in the second half and it is no surprise these Aaron Rodgers is a bum Stans evaporated from the board. And after yesterday, he orchestrates 4 long drives but can't punch it in on any, and so now he's trash. 

This is the reality. This is just going to continue. I don't think that Aaron Rodgers is the problem with this team, or with the locker room, and I don't think it's particularly close. 

I actually agree, especially yesterday. The defense got embarrassed and never gave the offense a chance. In order for the Jets offense to have had a chance on Sunday, they would’ve literally had to have scored a touchdown on every drive. I’ve never seen a defense look so bad let alone a defense that was projected to be at bare minimum a top 10 unit. the whole narrative of the season was that we just needed an average quarterback, and that the team was so strong that we would win games playing strong defense and having a solid ball control offense. This team, in reality, was doomed from the get go. without a good defense, this team never had a chance. The offense has had it struggles, but this defense was supposed to be doing the heavy lifting.

[JiFtheOracle]

37 minutes ago, Vader said:

thank you for proving my point. 

Meh, I don't think so because I was part of the off-season contingent who believed all we needed was Rodgers to just be 75% of himself and this team is a contender.  Well, he's not and they're not and I don't even think he's the major problem w/ the team, he's probably 3rd or 4th on the list but you're absolving him from being observably bad and statistically bad.  You're stating these drives where they couldn't punch it in as if that's a positive and acting as if one half of Football vs. the Texans is the only time we've seen Rodgers play this season.  He's had 1 good game, and 1 good half of Football this season or otherwise, has been a huge contributor to this mess.

 

 

 

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

For those last few holdovers who still refuse to admit Rodgers is even a small part of the problem...

 

Yardage

• Yards:  2258 (9th)
• Yards/Game:  225.8 (15th)
• Longest Completion:  57 (t-21st)
• Intended Air Yards per PA:  6.8 (30th)
• Completed Air Yards per PA:  3.2 (26th)
• YAC per Completion:  5.2 (19th)

Touchdowns/Interceptions

• TDs:  15 (t-8th)
• TD %:  4.3 (18th)
• INTs:  7 (t-10th most)
• INT %:  2.0 (13th)

Accuracy

• Completion %:  62.4 (29th)
• Expected Completion %:  67.1 (10th)
• Completion over Expected %:  -4.7 (37th)
• On Target %:  67.3 (28th)
• Bad Throw %:  16.7 (26th)

Rating

• QB Rating:  86.8 (23rd)
• QBR:  52.1 (26th)

Efficiency

• Yards/Attempt:  6.4 (26th)
• Adjusted YPA:  6.39 (24th)
• Net YPA:  5.56 (28th)
• Adjusted Net YPA:  5.52 (24th)
• Success Rate %:  44.4 (20th)
• 1st Downs:  114 (8th)

Pressure

• Sacks Taken:  23 (t-9th most)
• Sack %:  6.15 (15th)
• Pressure %:  18.6 (14th)
• Pocket Time (seconds):   2.1 (t-23rd)
• Time to Throw (seconds):  2.57 (37th)

Play Action

• Yardage on Play Action throws:  268 (24th)
• Play Action Pass Attempts:  50 (t-12th)
• Play Action Yardage per Attempt:  5.36 (32nd)

This is Ben Roethlisberger’s Last Season stuff. It’s unplayable. 

[Vader]

27 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

You can't even admit that he's even a tiny bit of the problem. ROFL. We didn't need someone to take over for @bicketybam and @Joe W. Namath

 

[Vader]

21 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

No.

Because we’ve already well established that all of those have either sucked or disappointed.  Why can’t you admit Rodgers hasn’t played anywhere close to expectation?

we did this dumb exercise yesterday and you are still looking for replies you were already given. 

we haven't established anything except the fact that you were nowhere to be seen with a thread like this on Aaron Rodgers' performance after the Houston win. Oops. 

So you have an agenda, that is what is established. Rodgers didn't score in the red zone yesterday. He had a bad fumble. Are those the reasons we lost? Kyler Murray was like 20-23 for 260 and 3 TDs at the half.

 

[Vader]

11 minutes ago, JiFtheOracle said:

Meh, I don't think so because I was part of the off-season contingent who believed all we needed was Rodgers to just be 75% of himself and this team is a contender.  Well, he's not and they're not and I don't even think he's the major problem w/ the team, he's probably 3rd or 4th on the list but you're absolving him from being observably bad and statistically bad.  You're stating these drives where they couldn't punch it in as if that's a positive and acting as if one half of Football vs. the Texans is the only time we've seen Rodgers play this season.  He's had 1 good game, and 1 good half of Football this season or otherwise, has been a huge contributor to this mess.

 

 

 

what percentage of Rodgers do we have? feel free to look up his career stats. What percentage of the "Bob Saleh All We Need Is Ok QBing Championship Defense" do we have of what we were promised? Or Special Teams. Or coaching. Just curious.

[Vader]

19 minutes ago, extmenace said:

I actually agree, especially yesterday. The defense got embarrassed and never gave the offense a chance. In order for the Jets offense to have had a chance on Sunday, they would’ve literally had to have scored a touchdown on every drive. I’ve never seen a defense look so bad let alone a defense that was projected to be at bare minimum a top 10 unit. the whole narrative of the season was that we just needed an average quarterback, and that the team was so strong that we would win games playing strong defense and having a solid ball control offense. This team, in reality, was doomed from the get go. without a good defense, this team never had a chance. The offense has had it struggles, but this defense was supposed to be doing the heavy lifting.

takes balls to agree with me on this board in this season environment 😅

[Jetsfan80]

15 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

This is Ben Roethlisberger’s Last Season stuff. It’s unplayable. 

Zach Wilson-esque excuses except that Rodgers is a HOF QB whereas Zach is a 3rd stringer.

[jgb]

1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

You can't even admit that he's even a tiny bit of the problem. ROFL. We didn't need someone to take over for @bicketybam and @Joe W. Namath

The ones who most aggressively question the fandom of others are always the first to bail every year when the team crashes 

[playtowinthegame]

2 hours ago, dbatesman said:

Remember when people were creaming their jeans about this trade

[playtowinthegame]

2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

For those last few holdovers who still refuse to admit Rodgers is even a small part of the problem...

 

Yardage

• Yards:  2258 (9th)
• Yards/Game:  225.8 (15th)
• Longest Completion:  57 (t-21st)
• Intended Air Yards per PA:  6.8 (30th)
• Completed Air Yards per PA:  3.2 (26th)
• YAC per Completion:  5.2 (19th)

Touchdowns/Interceptions

• TDs:  15 (t-8th)
• TD %:  4.3 (18th)
• INTs:  7 (t-10th most)
• INT %:  2.0 (13th)

Accuracy

• Completion %:  62.4 (29th)
• Expected Completion %:  67.1 (10th)
• Completion over Expected %:  -4.7 (37th)
• On Target %:  67.3 (28th)
• Bad Throw %:  16.7 (26th)

Rating

• QB Rating:  86.8 (23rd)
• QBR:  52.1 (26th)

Efficiency

• Yards/Attempt:  6.4 (26th)
• Adjusted YPA:  6.39 (24th)
• Net YPA:  5.56 (28th)
• Adjusted Net YPA:  5.52 (24th)
• Success Rate %:  44.4 (20th)
• 1st Downs:  114 (8th)

Pressure

• Sacks Taken:  23 (t-9th most)
• Sack %:  6.15 (15th)
• Pressure %:  18.6 (14th)
• Pocket Time (seconds):   2.1 (t-23rd)
• Time to Throw (seconds):  2.57 (37th)

Play Action

• Yardage on Play Action throws:  268 (24th)
• Play Action Pass Attempts:  50 (t-12th)
• Play Action Yardage per Attempt:  5.36 (32nd)

Time for Rodgers to go back to a darkness retreat.