PeterNorth09 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 VD as in Vernon Davis. The guy is a tight end yet he is faster than 99% of the wr's in the draft. Draft Davis, start him at WR opposite Coles, start Baker at TE and create all kinds of match-up problems for opposing secondaries. Davis played a lot of WR in college and has the speed and experience necessary for it. For the first time in God knows how long the Jets will be able to spread the field on offense, creating lots of space for our running backs to run in. I could really see Patrick Ramsey throwing around 25 touchdowns next season if this happens. Teams are going to be forced to double Davis. No LB is fast enough to cover him and any defensive back trying to cover him one on one would be killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I have a gut feeling we will take him if Mario is off the board.I wouldn't be against this move either,although i'm sure the rest of the league will chuckle at us...more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 IF VD Stands for Veron Davis then the JETS What that STD Trust me ,and the only people out there that will be chuckling will be us when is in the end zone for 10 TD's as a rookie a.k.a rookie of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Maybe I'm just a cynical Jets fan but I remember hearing all the same superlatives about a tight end named Johnnie Mitchell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 that's a great idea to start him at WR - actually it would be H-back, and he would commonly go in motion, sometimes line up as WR, sometimes come in to be double TE, sometimes off the line... interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verde Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 IF VD Stands for Veron Davis then the JETS What that STD Trust me ,and the only people out there that will be chuckling will be us when is in the end zone for 10 TD's as a rookie a.k.a rookie of the year. VD is a STD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Maybe I'm just a cynical Jets fan but I remember hearing all the same superlatives about a tight end named Johnnie Mitchell I also remember hearing those same comments about Mitchell. But Mitchell was lacking it above the shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varlo Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I would def take this guy. The mismatches in the secondary he would make will be jawdropping.......he can be a huge playmaker that this offense lacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 gotcha LOLVD is a STD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 About the whole Johnny Mitchell thing, we have to eventually put the past behind us. Just because we drafted some bust tight ends in the past doesn't mean any tight end we go with now will be a bust. If we took Heath Miller in the first round of last year's draft alot of people would have said "there the Jets go again, drafting another bust tight end". Miller was certainly not a bust in his rookie year, he didn't light up the stat boards but the Steelers are a run-focused team and he did a good job blocking, caught touchdowns and caught a key touchdown against the Colts in the playoffs. That touchdown Miller got probably turned the entire playoffs around from being a coronation for Indy. That play really shifted the momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djaparz Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 sometimes its not the players that are bust but the teams that take them are make them busts... we had Mark Bavaro as a TE coach and Kyle Brady still tripped over himself... with all the holes this team has to pick a TE at #4 is not worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 At # 4 it should go like this: D'Brick Mario If they are both gone slide down a few spots and take VD. He looks good, he is fast. But I am not taking him at 4. No way. The guy is 6'3" so unless they are never going to ask him to block there are going to be issues there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 sometimes its not the players that are bust but the teams that take them are make them busts... we had Mark Bavaro as a TE coach and Kyle Brady still tripped over himself... with all the holes this team has to pick a TE at #4 is not worth it Like I said before a player like Davis is so versatile he can play H-back or WR too. There wouldn't be any blocking issues there at all. The receivers we have on this team outside of Coles and Baker, who themselves are just ok, is absolutely putrid. I can't believe some of you guys think Patrick Ramsey can have any success when he has no one who can get open. Kyle Brady is a stiff. Comparing him to Vernon Davis is like comparing Tim Couch to Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djaparz Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Like I said before a player like Davis is so versatile he can play H-back or WR too. There wouldn't be any blocking issues there at all. The receivers we have on this team outside of Coles and Baker, who themselves are just ok, is absolutely putrid. I can't believe some of you guys think Patrick Ramsey can have any success when he has no one who can get open. Kyle Brady is a stiff. Comparing him to Vernon Davis is like comparing Tim Couch to Peyton Manning. but when brady came out of collge to see the size of him you had to think that he would be a poweful blocker and break tackles after the catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsnts725 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I have a gut feeling we will take him if Mario is off the board.I wouldn't be against this move either,although i'm sure the rest of the league will chuckle at us...more so. if mario is off the board and brick is still there, then they will take brick, not VD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnys025 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I have a gut feeling we will take him if Mario is off the board.I wouldn't be against this move either,although i'm sure the rest of the league will chuckle at us...more so. Mario will be off the board by our pick, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ten Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 if mario is off the board and brick is still there, then they will take brick, not VD. Since we've patched up our holes in free agency i reckon we could be looking to draft best player available over need.From everything i've read Davis looks like he will be a better player than D'Brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I tight end is going to be hit in the backfield along with the RB and QB if they don't shore up the line. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 VD as in Vernon Davis. I thought you meant venereal disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phinsuck Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I'll take Davis on the Jets. We can shore up the O-line at 29 and/or 35. Plus there are plenty of good O-linemen that we can get in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 About the whole Johnny Mitchell thing, we have to eventually put the past behind us. Just because we drafted some bust tight ends in the past doesn't mean any tight end we go with now will be a bust. Yet you can bring up D'Brick without discussing Robert Gallery and Mike Williams. I've got no problem trading down to the 7-10 area and thinking about Davis,but I'm not interested in a TE at 4 when we're guaranteed one of the four of Leinart,Bush,Williams,Ferguson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Like I said before a player like Davis is so versatile he can play H-back or WR too. There wouldn't be any blocking issues there at all. The receivers we have on this team outside of Coles and Baker, who themselves are just ok, is absolutely putrid. I can't believe some of you guys think Patrick Ramsey can have any success when he has no one who can get open. Kyle Brady is a stiff. Comparing him to Vernon Davis is like comparing Tim Couch to Peyton Manning. I think Cotchery will be better than you think once he receives someplaying time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted April 24, 2006 Author Share Posted April 24, 2006 Yet you can bring up D'Brick without discussing Robert Gallery and Mike Williams. I've got no problem trading down to the 7-10 area and thinking about Davis,but I'm not interested in a TE at 4 when we're guaranteed one of the four of Leinart,Bush,Williams,Ferguson. The reason why I'm against drafting Ferguson is because his position, Offensive Tackle, is the most stocked with talent in the draft. Tight End is stocked with talent too but none of those guys can play WR like Vernon Davis. I bring up Robert Gallery not only because he's a bust but also because Al Davis passed over some pretty special skill position players to draft him at #2 overall. Even if Gallery wasn't a bust I think the Raiders still would much rather have Ben Roethlisberger or Larry Fitzgerald. It is actually quite easy to find quality offensive linemen after Round 1. Kevin Mawae was a 2nd Round pick. Kareem Mackenzie was 3rd Round. Jason Fabini was 4th Round. Parcells drafted other good linemen after Round 1. By the way, Davis is projected to go to the Niners at 6 so I don't see why he is such a reach at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green DNA Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I thought you meant venereal disease. Your getting him mixed up with Michael Vick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickkotite Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 what are the chances of grabbing bush AND getting VD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 At # 4 it should go like this: D'Brick Mario If they are both gone slide down a few spots and take VD. He looks good, he is fast. But I am not taking him at 4. No way. The guy is 6'3" so unless they are never going to ask him to block there are going to be issues there. Right on. Alot of times the TE has to block well or your run game becomes very limited and play-action passes are not effective enough. We Steeler fans have a saying. TE stands for Tackle Eligible too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetCane Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 what are the chances of grabbing bush AND getting VD? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 what are the chances of grabbing bush AND getting VD? POTW NOM. That one HAS to win. Just has to. DK, if you grab bush you won't get VD. If you acquire Bush through other means, then yes VD might be a possibility! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 You can't just grab bush. Chicks don't like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerry Rhodes Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Wait, So on this Site a guy names "Peter North" says were going to get "VD" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Wait, So on this Site a guy names "Peter North" says were going to get "VD" ? That sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 At # 4 it should go like this: D'Brick Mario If they are both gone slide down a few spots and take VD. He looks good, he is fast. But I am not taking him at 4. No way. The guy is 6'3" so unless they are never going to ask him to block there are going to be issues there. Well according to ESPN, it might be Williams going to the Texans at #1. Houston does not want to pay Reggie what the 49ers paid Alex Smith last year at #1 and Reggie expects more from a team that is not willing to spend money on their #1 draft pick. That could change the JETS whole insight on the deal. They could then deal both #1's in a trade with New Orleans & get Reggie at #2. Still, does Tannenbaum want to spend that much money on a franchise Rb? Or will the Titans deal for #2 - which I do not see. Especially since it's going to be difficult enought just to find cap room to sign Leinert at #3! Draft day can not come fast enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterNorth09 Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well according to ESPN, it might be Williams going to the Texans at #1. Houston does not want to pay Reggie what the 49ers paid Alex Smith last year at #1 and Reggie expects more from a team that is not willing to spend money on their #1 draft pick. That could change the JETS whole insight on the deal. They could then deal both #1's in a trade with New Orleans & get Reggie at #2. Still, does Tannenbaum want to spend that much money on a franchise Rb? Or will the Titans deal for #2 - which I do not see. Especially since it's going to be difficult enought just to find cap room to sign Leinert at #3! Draft day can not come fast enough... I like Bush, the running back, not the president, but I don't think it would be the right move trading both the #4 and #29 picks for him. We certainly need a running back and with Houston now injured from that car accident that is an undeniable fact. However, we could get Lendale White or Lawrence Maroney at #29 or Joe Addai at #35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shutout Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I like Bush, the running back, not the president, but I don't think it would be the right move trading both the #4 and #29 picks for him. We certainly need a running back and with Houston now injured from that car accident that is an undeniable fact. However, we could get Lendale White or Lawrence Maroney at #29 or Joe Addai at #35. Now there's something we can agree on. As much as I like Reggie Bush,I'm really not comfortable giving up 2 first rounders in a draft this deep for one guy. I don't think it matters though cause the Texans are just trying to use Williams to get someone to trade up...and I really don't think anyone is buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Can you imagine how unbearable Tx will be for the next few seasons if the Jets give up 2 #1's again! They gave up two #'s for Bush? Didn't they realize he has noodle legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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