TaborJet Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nats GM holds tight on Soriano By PETER BOTTE DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Yankee officials still insist no contact has been made, and Washington GM Jim Bowden won't say whether he's already been in touch with Yanks counterpart Brian Cashman about the possibility of Alfonso Soriano eventually returning to the Bronx if Melky Cabrera and Bubba Crosby can't cut it as Hideki Matsui's replacements. But the Nats' GM has acknowledged his team's 12-24 start already has rival executives circling overhead like vultures, despite more than two months remaining before the July 31 trade deadline. "Due to our poor start, we've had a lot of teams who've called inquiring about a lot of our quality players because of where we are in the standings," Bowden told The Washington Times. "And certainly, we have a significant amount of talented players, although we have a tremendous amount of underachieving going on. Certainly the baseball world recognizes the talent we have. "I don't want to talk about specific clubs or specific players except for the fact that we will listen obviously to any club, and I've told clubs that we have interest in discussing deals that will bring in young, impactful players to Washington to build this thing long-term." Soriano initially resisted a shift from second base to left field after an offseason trade from Texas to Washington, but it's widely believed he'd gladly accept that switch if it meant returning to New York. Manager Frank Robinson reinstated Soriano as his leadoff hitter Friday, and said the perennial All-Star will remain in that role for the rest of the season, or however long he stays with the Nats. Soriano was batting .328 in 15 games as the Nats' leadoff man, but just .186 (8-for-43) after a switch to the No. 3 hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Soriano is a massively overrated player and i would look at guys like Huff, Abreu and Craig Wilson way before i look at him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Soriano is a massively overrated player and i would look at guys like Huff, Abreu and Craig Wilson way before i look at him... How is this guy overrated? Who are you comparing him to? http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/soriaal01.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 His carrer OPS is 820. Thats only a little over the major league average and his terrible k/bb ratio kills any help that you get from his power (which is overated too 501 carrer slg%) not to mention the fact that he's a liability in the field no matter where he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Nice use of the Nats symbol by Tabor. Just thought it was worth mentioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 His carrer OPS is 820. Thats only a little over the major league average and his terrible k/bb ratio kills any help that you get from his power (which is overated too 501 carrer slg%) not to mention the fact that he's a liability in the field no matter where he plays. Pretty much. The Yanks really dont need another guy who strikes out a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Soriano is a better option than Crosby, isn't he? thats all that really matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Soriano is a better option than Crosby, isn't he? thats all that really matters His contract is ridiculous though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 His contract is ridiculous though. It's not the contract he's a FA at the end of the year. I just don't want him. There are alot of better cheaper options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally Posted by blackout806 Soriano is a better option than Crosby, isn't he? thats all that really matters His contract is ridiculous though. Since when has that mattered? I would grab him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Originally Posted by blackout806 Soriano is a better option than Crosby, isn't he? thats all that really matters Since when has that mattered? I would grab him. It matters because he's ridiculously overpaid for a guy who strikes out a ton. Out of curiosity, why would you grad Soriano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 It matters because he's ridiculously overpaid for a guy who strikes out a ton. Out of curiosity, why would you grad Soriano? the bigger question is WHERE would he grab soriano? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 It matters because he's ridiculously overpaid for a guy who strikes out a ton. Out of curiosity, why would you grab Soriano? 1.) Sori is a 30-30 threat. 1A.) Melky is a 5-5 threat. 1B) Bubba Crosby is no threat. 2.) The Yanks line-up just looks like your run of the 100 mill without Sheff and Matsui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 2.) The Yanks line-up just looks like your run of the 100 mill without Sheff and Matsui. now this has to be the most retarded quote i've read since JBF last posted Damon/Jeter/A-rod/Giambi*/Cano are you kidding me? thats still the best lineup in baseball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 Pitching is going to win you championships- The Yanks can get by with the offense they have -play small ball like the White Sox did with good pitching last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 1.) Sori is a 30-30 threat. 1A.) Melky is a 5-5 threat. 1B) Bubba Crosby is no threat. 2.) The Yanks line-up just looks like your run of the 100 mill without Sheff and Matsui. You know, the Yankees did just win 2 of 3 with those guys playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 now this has to be the most retarded quote i've read since JBF last posted Damon/Jeter/A-rod/Giambi*/Cano are you kidding me? thats still the best lineup in baseball The yankees don't have the best lineup in baseball and they didn't even when matsui and sheffield were healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 The yankees don't have the best lineup in baseball and they didn't even when matsui and sheffield were healthy. name me one lineup thats better top to bottom with those guys healthy and please dont even try to say the Mets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 name me one lineup thats better top to bottom with those guys healthy and please dont even try to say the Mets The Indians and Toronto both have better lineups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 The Indians and Toronto both have better lineups. toronto? honkey please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 toronto? honkey please It's no fluke they have scored more runs then the yankees. Wells Overbay Glaus and Hillenbrand could always hit and this year Rios has become a flatout star and Reed johnson is hitting 350. You might not like it but they have a better lineup. The reason the yankees are in first place is their pitching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 It's no fluke they have scored more runs then the yankees. Wells Overbay Glaus and Hillenbrand could always hit and this year Rios has become a flatout star and Reed johnson is hitting 350. You might not like it but they have a better lineup. The reason the yankees are in first place is their pitching. yeah, because the yankees pitching staff is so solid this year, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 yeah, because the yankees pitching staff is so solid this year, right? Yeah in fact it is. The starters have been solid and the bullpen has been great. Thats why they have the 2nd best ERA in the league and the 3rd best in baseball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 now this has to be the most retarded quote i've read since JBF last posted Damon/Jeter/A-rod/Giambi*/Cano are you kidding me? thats still the best lineup in baseball Are you high ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 The Yankees don't need another outfielder. When the Yankees get solid starting pitching like they did with Wright and Wang, they'll usually win. When they get lousy starting pitching like Johnson today they will likely lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 The Yankees don't need another outfielder. When the Yankees get solid starting pitching like they did with Wright and Wang, they'll usually win. When they get lousy starting pitching like Johnson today they will likely lose. when a pitcher goes 6ip 4er they should win that game most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT STALKER Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Just for argument sake, say the Yanks get Soriano...who is the odd man out when Sheff and Matsui come back? Someone ain't going to be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Think it would mean that Sheff or Soriano become a fulltime DH and Giambi a fulltime 1st baseman. They aren't picking up Sheff's option after all his nonsense, so the salary hit wouldn't really be that bad. Problem becomes that while Soriano fattens his stats on weak pitchers, he still strikes out a lot, hasn't really learned the strike zone and seems to disappear against superior pitchers-the kind you'll see in the postseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 1.) Sori is a 30-30 threat. 1A.) Melky is a 5-5 threat. 1B) Bubba Crosby is no threat. 2.) The Yanks line-up just looks like your run of the 100 mill without Sheff and Matsui. You should learn a bit about Melky before going off on him. You are starting to sound like Mike Franscesca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Nice use of the Nats symbol by Tabor. Just thought it was worth mentioning. First time for everything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Are you high ? Maybe not the best in Baseball without Sheff and Matsui, but a top 5, for sure. And a top 1, with everyone healthy. No doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 when a pitcher goes 6ip 4er they should win that game most of the time. And usually they will. Unless the other pitcher is throwing strike1, strike 2 all game long. Heren did not get to a 3 ball count on anyone until the 6th, I believe. He was awesome. Sometimes, it's not the lineup. The other guy out there deserves the credit, and yesterday, Heren was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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