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who cares,, it got us Omar as GM,, the future is brighter than it has been in 20 years,,

lets just hope that San Juan doesnt get a team, we will lose Omar if that happens

yeah, the future looks very bright with Pedro and Glavine both gone by 2009 and the Mets having no more ace because they traded away Kazmir, who is only 22 by the way ;)

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Actually we have Pelfrey and Humber as young guys that can be the future aces- you do not know what is in the Mets farm system

But how do you know the Mess won't trade them away for Barry Zito, or (in typical Mess fashion) Carlos Silva?

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thats ignorant and silly,,

we have very good youngsters and its the Mets, they will buy some free agent arms,,just like Yanks,, but now we have a smart GM like the Yanks do and mistakes will be minimal,,

we'll give you Randy Johnson for free if you donate a box of donuts to the NYPD

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Kazmir strikes out 11, wins 7th as Rays sweep Marlins

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (AP) -- Scott Kazmir kept the Florida Marlins guessing all day long.

"He had it all going on," Tampa Bay manager Joe Maddon said Sunday. "Fastball, slider, changeup. Both sides of the plate, up and down."

Kazmir allowed four hits and matched a career-high with 11 strikeouts in eight innings, helping the Devil Rays beat Dontrelle Willis and the punchless Marlins 3-0 for the young left-hander's fifth straight win.

At 22, Kazmir is the youngest major league pitcher to win seven games this early in a season since Fernando Valenzuela in 1981.

"He's got great stuff, and he knows how to pitch. He's proved that," Marlins manager Joe Girardi said. "He's been on a roll. I think he took a few lumps the first half of the season last year. Since then, he's been as good as anyone in baseball."

Kazmir (7-2) shares the major league lead in wins. He held the Marlins to three singles and Miguel Cabrera's fourth-inning double while limiting an opponent to one or fewer earned runs for the fifth consecutive start.

The lefty walked one and hit a batter before departing after 119 pitches. Tyler Walker worked the ninth for his eighth save in nine opportunities.

"I felt in a groove the whole game," said Kazmir, who didn't get his first win last season until May 19.

"This is the best I've felt, by far, definitely. I'm a whole new pitcher. I'm more comfortable with all of my pitches."

Jonny Gomes keyed a three-run fifth inning with a RBI triple off Willis (1-5), who allowed eight hits in his first complete game of the season.

Ty Wigginton and Greg Norton also drove runs in the fifth for the Devil Rays, who swept the weekend series and have won a season-high four straight games.

The Marlins have lost seven in a row, their longest skid since losing eight in a row from July 7-18, 2002.

Willis worked out of jams with runners in scoring position in the first, second and third innings, but couldn't wiggle off the hook after giving up a one-out single to Julio Lugo in the fifth.

Gomes broke the scoreless tie with his triple to right-center, then trotted home on Wigginton's RBI single for a 2-0 lead. Norton finished the inning with a run-scoring single that gave Kazmir added insurance.

"You could see when he got the lead that he turned it up. To me, that's the mark of an ace and a winner," Girardi said.

"He's got three out pitches. Whenever you have a starting pitcher with three out pitches, they're dangerous. They're going to rack up strikeouts and they're going to go deep into games. You don't get the same look at them."

Willis, who led the majors last season with 22 victories, has gone seven consecutive starts without a win. It's the longest such stretch of his career, and the Marlins are 0-6 in games he's started on the road.

The Florida left-hander walked three and struck out three in his second straight solid performance. He allowed a pair of solo homers in nine innings of a game the Marlins lost in extra innings at Atlanta last week.

"Unfortunately we weren't able to get him a win," Girardi said. "But Dontrelle is on the right track."

Game notes

The complete game was the 12th of Willis' career. ... Maddon returned to the bench after missing the first two games of the series to fly to California for his girlfriend's graduation from law school. ... Only one Marlin had faced Kazmir before Sunday. C Miguel Olivo, who was not in the lineup, was 0-for-1 lifetime against the Devil Rays lefty. ... Tampa Bay won the first two games of the series on walk-off homers. Florida has the longest current streak in the majors without a walk-off home run -- 317 games. The Marlins haven't hit one since May 29, 2004 against the New York Mets.

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I realize what you're saying about those guys being cornerstones for the D-Rays. I've been saying for years that if they draw some decent crowds and retain some of their young talent, the D-Rays have the potential to be a hell of a team. Not many teams have the number of good young players to build around that the D-Rays have.

The only way I'd see them dealing Kazmir would be for a guy who has a little less MLB service but has shown the ability to be a very good starter (Wang) and another blue chip prospect (Duncan). I realize that the chances of the Yankees (or anyone) getting Kaz are slim to none but if I could pick one guy for the Yankees to target and part with top prospects then he's the player I'd like to see them get.

the D-rays have more talent than half the teams in the NL

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Not sure that breaking balls is the same as caring. In all honesty I could give a damn about the Mets. I like the one or two met fans on this site who can have an objective conversation about baseball but to say Yankee fans "care" about the mets based on ribbing about Kaz isn't all that accurate IMO.

Yep. The only time I'll really give a **** about Kazmir is when he's pitching against us.

If a few Mets fans on here mistake my good-natured ribbing for anything else, then in the words of Notorious BIG, they're dead wrong

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Maxman, you have been starting many of these Kazmir threads. However, each of them has gone on several pages. What does that tell you?

that Scott Kazmir is the best pitcher since Walter Johnson?

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Did you ever watch Walter Johnson pitch, oh wise 15-year old?

And once again, you wouldn't be saying that if he wasn't a former Met.

how old are you 80?

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Old enough to know that, if you never saw a pitcher pitch, all you're relying on are statistics (which always have a distinct possibility of being flawed) and stories (which always have the possibility of being distorted by those telling the story).

So you won't even tell me your age?

What a disgrace to Mets fans everywhere. I'm sorry good fans like LatinLawyer and Faba have to put up with the likes of you.

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Nice try.

Thanks.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to join the Scott Kazmir fan club.

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That I am a post count whore? I thought I already made that clear, lol.

Maxman, not that you aren't a post-slut, but I think the real reason these threads are going so deep is clearly because of the greatness of Mr. Kazmir and his quest to eventually pass Cy Young on the all-time wins list at 511 while blowing away Nolan Ryan's 5714 strikeouts at the same time.

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