Previewing the WRs and TEs.

[Tinstar2]

What a difference a yr makes when you talk about the receivers and TEs of the NYJ.Last yr most Jet fans were beside themselves with the return of Lav Coles who many thought,myself included,was a better fit for the offense than the traded Santana Moss.Following a productive season in 2004 by Justin McCarreins,many were looking for the breakout yr from this receiver.Jerrico Cotchery was 1 yr into the program with fans expecting increased production form one of college football most prolific receivers.

Just before the Draft,the Jets swing a trade with the Raiders for pass recieving TE Doug Jolley giving up their 1st pick in the draft,but receiving the Raiders 2nd rounder and another pick on the draft's 2nd day.Jolley was expected to stretch the middle of the field in a way that former TE Anthony Becht whose services were not retained never managed.Jolley was known to be a liability as a blocker,but the team still had Chris Baker who had shown improved blocking ability and pass receiving skills.During the Draft,the Team added yet another potential receiving TE whom they hoped could develop into a capable blocker once he adapted to the pro training regiment.

On Paper,it appeared the team had just what it was looking for at the receiving and TE positions.Players who could make the tough catches and bring the toughness that appeared missing .Only 1 thing was overlooked but it didn't matter,because it was the time for the Fans to get excited about the expectations for a team that had missed getting to the AFC Championship game against the hated division rival Patriots because of a missed FG.That 1 thing was crucial,because it was that the fans didn't take into consideration the type of offense the team would be utalizing under new OC Mike Heimerdinger.

It the post draft reaction of the majority of Jet fans that the Jets receiving core along with it's TE contingent is sub-standard when compared to that of other teams around the league.While that may be if you take into account name recognition and last season's production,this fan doesn't see it that way.As a matter of fact this fan believe Jet fans are once again guilty of making the exact mistake they made last yr when they evaluated the receiving core.You have to take into account the type of offense the team will run.Last yr,the Jets traded away their only speed receiver immediately after hiring an OC known to prefer the aggresive down the field approach.This yr,the Team has an OC who has never held the position before,but was last a student under Cam Cameron as the QBs coach in his offense.That Offense is predicated on motion,maximum utalization of the TE and short to intermediate crossing routes by the wideouts occasionally stretching the field to keep the defense honest.If this sounds vagely familiar,it should because it was the exact same offense one Paul Hackett used as the OC of the NYJ.The difference here will be in play calling and Play selection as Baby Schott looks to make his name in the NFL.

The starters at WR will almost certainly be Lav Coles and Justin McCarreins.Unless the team makes a move for another Veteran receiver,the backup will be Return Specialist Tim Dwight,Jerico Cotchery and Brad Smith a rookie 4th round draft pick the team is attempting to develop into a receiver .Smith starred at Missouri as a QB where he set all kind of school records.Vying for a roster spot at this position will be holdovers Dante Ridgeway,a prolific college WR,and Jovan Witherspoon currently having an excellent season in NFL Europe.

At the TE position,determining who the starter will be and for that matter who will make the Final roster could come down to the evaluation done after the final preseason game.3 Players are currently vying for the starting position.Those players IMHO are Chris Baker,Doug Jolley and Joel Dressen.The truely ironic thing here is all 3 of these players are also fighing to remain on the final roster.During the Draft,the Team added a player,Jason Pociask who is listed as a TE,but is more of a blocking "H" Back.Vying for the coaches attention will be UDRFA Joe Kowalewski and James Dearth,the longest tenured TE on the team who's more the long snapper than a true TE.

These Players all make up what this fan believe is the ideal receiving core for the type of Offense I believe Baby Schott will impliment as he begins his career as an OC.Ideally you would love to head into the season with a proven Home Run Threat,but it's my guess the team will try and develop Brad Smith into that type of player and hope that Tim Dwight still has the Speed to handle those duties in the interim.

In closing,this fan would like to wish much happiness and continued future success in what ever endeavor he may persue to a great retiring NYJ receiver.

Thanks for the memories #80 Wayne Chrebet you were a great Jet and one hell of a "CLUTCH" football player.

[Savage69]

What a difference a yr makes when you talk about the receivers and TEs of the NYJ.Last yr most Jet fans were beside themselves with the return of Lav Coles who many thought,myself included,was a better fit for the offense than the traded Santana Moss.Following a productive season in 2004 by Justin McCarreins,many were looking for the breakout yr from this receiver.Jerrico Cotchery was 1 yr into the program with fans expecting increased production form one of college football most prolific receivers.

Just before the Draft,the Jets swing a trade with the Raiders for pass recieving TE Doug Jolley giving up their 1st pick in the draft,but receiving the Raiders 2nd rounder and another pick on the draft's 2nd day.Jolley was expected to stretch the middle of the field in a way that former TE Anthony Becht whose services were not retained never managed.Jolley was known to be a liability as a blocker,but the team still had Chris Baker who had shown improved blocking ability and pass receiving skills.During the Draft,the Team added yet another potential receiving TE whom they hoped could develop into a capable blocker once he adapted to the pro training regiment.

On Paper,it appeared the team had just what it was looking for at the receiving and TE positions.Players who could make the tough catches and bring the toughness that appeared missing .Only 1 thing was overlooked but it didn't matter,because it was the time for the Fans to get excited about the expectations for a team that had missed getting to the AFC Championship game against the hated division rival Patriots because of a missed FG.That 1 thing was crucial,because it was that the fans didn't take into consideration the type of offense the team would be utalizing under new OC Mike Heimerdinger.

It the post draft reaction of the majority of Jet fans that the Jets receiving core along with it's TE contingent is sub-standard when compared to that of other teams around the league.While that may be if you take into account name recognition and last season's production,this fan doesn't see it that way.As a matter of fact this fan believe Jet fans are once again guilty of making the exact mistake they made last yr when they evaluated the receiving core.You have to take into account the type of offense the team will run.Last yr,the Jets traded away their only speed receiver immediately after hiring an OC known to prefer the aggresive down the field approach.This yr,the Team has an OC who has never held the position before,but was last a student under Cam Cameron as the QBs coach in his offense.That Offense is predicated on motion,maximum utalization of the TE and short to intermediate crossing routes by the wideouts occasionally stretching the field to keep the defense honest.If this sounds vagely familiar,it should because it was the exact same offense one Paul Hackett used as the OC of the NYJ.The difference here will be in play calling and Play selection as Baby Schott looks to make his name in the NFL.

The starters at WR will almost certainly be Lav Coles and Justin McCarreins.Unless the team makes a move for another Veteran receiver,the backup will be Return Specialist Tim Dwight,Jerico Cotchery and Brad Smith a rookie 4th round draft pick the team is attempting to develop into a receiver .Smith starred at Missouri as a QB where he set all kind of school records.Vying for a roster spot at this position will be holdovers Dante Ridgeway,a prolific college WR,and Jovan Witherspoon currently having an excellent season in NFL Europe.

At the TE position,determining who the starter will be and for that matter who will make the Final roster could come down to the evaluation done after the final preseason game.3 Players are currently vying for the starting position.Those players IMHO are Chris Baker,Doug Jolley and Joel Dressen.The truely ironic thing here is all 3 of these players are also fighing to remain on the final roster.During the Draft,the Team added a player,Jason Pociask who is listed as a TE,but is more of a blocking "H" Back.Vying for the coaches attention will be UDRFA Joe Kowalewski and James Dearth,the longest tenured TE on the team who's more the long snapper than a true TE.

These Players all make up what this fan believe is the ideal receiving core for the type of Offense I believe Baby Schott will impliment as he begins his career as an OC.Ideally you wouldlove to head into the season with a proven Home Run Threat,but it's my guess the team will try and develop Brad Smith into that type of player and hope that Tim Dwight still has the Speed to handle those duties in the interim.

In closing,this fan would like to wish much happiness and continued future success in what ever endeavor he may persue to a great retiring NYJ receiver.

Thanks for the memories #80 Wayne Chrebet you were a great Jet and one hell of a "CLUTCH" football player.

I'd love to see either Jerico Cotchery or Brad Smith beat out Jmac in camp! And with the Hermster gone maybe they can!!

[Tinstar2]

Not to worry Savage because whoever starts will have wonn the job fair and square if we are to believe what Mangini has stated and i see no reason not to believe the HC.

[Sperm Edwards]

This yr,the Team has an OC who has never held the position before,but was last a student under Cam Cameron as the QBs coach in his offense.That Offense is predicated on motion,maximum utalization of the TE and short to intermediate crossing routes by the wideouts occasionally stretching the field to keep the defense honest.If this sounds vagely familiar,it should because it was the exact same offense one Paul Hackett used as the OC of the NYJ.The difference here will be in play calling and Play selection as Baby Schott looks to make his name in the NFL.

No one knows what "Baby Schott" is going to do. The team's claim is that he's going to tailor the offense to the talent. THIS is what Cam Cameron did in SD. He had a QB with a legit NFL arm (Brees), big-time playmakers at HB & TE (LT/Gates), a top-notch blocking FB (Neal) with an OL that could control the line of scrimmage, and possession WR's (McCardell & Parker). To say that it was the same offense as Paul Hackett is naive. Cameron didn't have a burner WR. Hackett had a burner at WR and still (with either Herm's outright blessing or assent by silence) went with a possession-type offense, even when Vinny was in there for the first half of 2003 & then for the 3 games Quincy Carter was in there in 2004. Coles also had burner speed before his much publicized toe problems with Washington. He was used almost exclusively as a possession-type receiver as well. Hackett also used to give himself built-in excuses by publicly saying that this offense needs 3 years with the same personnel to get it right. While he may very well have had book-smarts as to drawing up plays, as a coordinator/play-caller he was a fool (which begs the question of Herm - who's more foolish, the fool or the one who follows him?).

The reality is that we won't know what type of offense we're going to run until we see it for ourselves, and against a couple different types of defenses.

[PeterNorth09]

Jolley needs to go.

[PatsFanTX]

Jolley needs to go.

I can't believe the Jets gave up a 1st round draft pick for that loser.

[Tinstar2]

No one knows what "Baby Schott" is going to do. The team's claim is that he's going to tailor the offense to the talent. THIS is what Cam Cameron did in SD. He had a QB with a legit NFL arm (Brees), big-time playmakers at HB & TE (LT/Gates), a top-notch blocking FB (Neal) with an OL that could control the line of scrimmage, and possession WR's (McCardell & Parker). To say that it was the same offense as Paul Hackett is naive. Cameron didn't have a burner WR. Hackett had a burner at WR and still (with either Herm's outright blessing or assent by silence) went with a possession-type offense, even when Vinny was in there for the first half of 2003 & then for the 3 games Quincy Carter was in there in 2004. Coles also had burner speed before his much publicized toe problems with Washington. He was used almost exclusively as a possession-type receiver as well. Hackett also used to give himself built-in excuses by publicly saying that this offense needs 3 years with the same personnel to get it right. While he may very well have had book-smarts as to drawing up plays, as a coordinator/play-caller he was a fool (which begs the question of Herm - who's more foolish, the fool or the one who follows him?).

The reality is that we won't know what type of offense we're going to run until we see it for ourselves, and against a couple different types of defenses.

I don't want to get into a long discussion about everyone's favorite subject.I watched the Chargers prior to Gates an with him,and their offense is exactly the same.Their offense is precisely what i detailed even with Brees,LT and Gates.Eric Parker is no possession receiver either,he just runs the routes that are assigned him.

[Sperm Edwards]

I don't want to get into a long discussion about everyone's favorite subject.I watched the Chargers prior to Gates an with him,and their offense is exactly the same.Their offense is precisely what i detailed even with Brees,LT and Gates.Eric Parker is no possession receiver either,he just runs the routes that are assigned him.

Parker's no burner & that's why he's given those routes. There are 4 receivers on the Jets with better speed (Coles, McCariens, Dwight, Smith) & Cotchery's at least comparable, if not faster himself.

What burner do you feel the Chargers didn't take advantage of? David Boston? The guy was more into bodybuilding by the time SD got a hold of him.

Regardless of talent, SD played Martyball until the league changed the rules with respect to the CB's having to be totally hands-off the receivers. No matter how many points they were down. After that, they started passing more. But even when they did, they tailored it to the talent they had: possession-type receivers with mediocre speed (at best).

We'll see this season if the apple falls far from the tree.

[Jeru]

Can't blame the receiving corps - getting used to a new qb every other down will kill any team....

Gotta give the new OC a chance - hope he understands his personnel better than the previous ones !!!