SouthernJet Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 From Mike Vaccaro in todays NY Post" It's just a smaller difference now. And there are weekends, like the one just past, when you take a stroll through town and it's starting to look and sound and feel an awful lot like the middle '80s again. Not everywhere. Not all the time. Just enough to make you stop, and think, and wonder. But baseball plays by different rules, even in the 44-plus seasons when it's only been a two-team town. The Mets were born at a time when the city was bored by the Yankees, they filled a crevasse left by two fleeing teams, and for the first dozen or so years of their existence they ruled the town with an iron fist. Then the Yankees were reborn in the mid-'70s, the Mets fell into disrepair and Mets fans became a more endangered species than the spotted owl. It didn't seem possible that things could ever switch back again, but they did, and in a big way, and by the time the Mets had assembled their mid-'80s powerhouse they were drawing almost a million fans more per season than the Yankees were. And then, around 1993 or so, things switched back one more time, stayed that way, seemed like they might stay that way forever. Only we should know by now that in baseball New York, nothing is truly forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.I.MikeBleedsGreen Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Mets are for Ever, SJ you know that brother! I watch them practice in Port Saint Lucie Before the season started and the stands were packed even in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 The Yankees are averaging almost 10,000 more per game. The Mets new stadium has like 43,000 seats. The Yankees new stadium has over 10,000 more than that. Take this into account...the Yankees have the most expensive tickets in all of baseball. If the tickets were cheaper they would need a football arena on a nightly basis! NL town...uh, okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 The Yankees average over 50,000 per game. More than 5,000 over the next team (Dodgers). On the road the Yankees average 6,000 more than the # 2 team. Yankee baseball!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Yeah gimme a friggin break. I heard Rick Reilly make the same retarded argument. New York City is the greatest city in the entire world and should not be represented by a bunch of perrenial losers (except the Jets ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 The Yankees average over 50,000 per game. More than 5,000 over the next team (Dodgers). On the road the Yankees average 6,000 more than the # 2 team. Yankee baseball!!! if that makes you feel better, OK. slowly changing back as the sportswriter accurately wrote,, i know it hurts, but , as the sportswriter accurately wrote, its cyclical,, yanks will be back again,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 if that makes you feel better, OK. slowly changing back as the sportswriter accurately wrote,, i know it hurts, but , as the sportswriter accurately wrote, its cyclical,, yanks will be back again,,, so when do you agree with sportswriters? When it fits your agenda?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 so when do you agree with sportswriters? When it fits your agenda?? uh , ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 Mets fans are funny creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 Mets fans are funny creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 if that makes you feel better, OK. slowly changing back as the sportswriter accurately wrote,, i know it hurts, but , as the sportswriter accurately wrote, its cyclical,, yanks will be back again,,, I didn't read his article. But he is basing this on what? On the # of Met hats he sees in the street? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 13, 2006 Author Share Posted June 13, 2006 I didn't read his article. But he is basing this on what? On the # of Met hats he sees in the street? street buzz,, more wins,, and the fact Mets/Yanks have swapped being the team several times since Mets came into NL,,cyclical,,, http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/slowly__willies_crew_is_stealing_the_city_back_mets_mike_vaccaro.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 The Yankees are averaging almost 10,000 more per game. The Mets new stadium has like 43,000 seats. The Yankees new stadium has over 10,000 more than that. Take this into account...the Yankees have the most expensive tickets in all of baseball. If the tickets were cheaper they would need a football arena on a nightly basis! NL town...uh, okay. The Cubs outdraw the White Sox in Chicago last year by a good margin-Did that make them more relavent in that town? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 A lot of people go to see the Yanks to see them lose or to see a historic stadium Yankee Stadium - when you start putting up attendance figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 A lot of people go to see the Yanks to see them lose or to see a historic stadium Yankee Stadium - when you start putting up attendance figures That's a joke, right? I know you're a Mets fan, but I always thought you were sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 New York is still a Yankee town, the reactivity by Yankee fans on this board is amazing. The article merely stated that the 2006 season is SLOWLY swinging the balance the other way. Who could argue that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 That's a joke, right? I know you're a Mets fan, but I always thought you were sensible. I must be getting pretty good -people do not know when I am joking Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 I think the writer means that mets fans are finally excited about their mets after they have sucked the last 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 13, 2006 Share Posted June 13, 2006 The town belongs to whoevers winning at the time. WHich also holds true for the Jets and Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I don't care how many seats you sell,how many regular season games you win, How many HR's Beltran has or how many loser mets fans there are....It will take a lot more than that to change what kind of town NY is. Only Mets fans would put a claim to fame on NYC after 60 regular season games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 The Cubs outdraw the White Sox in Chicago last year by a good margin-Did that make them more relavent in that town? Scott...thanks for playing. But you MISSED the boat on this one. Chicago is a Cubs town. It has nothing to do with the White Sox winning the World Series. NY is the YANKEES town. Willie's impressive start aside. If George farts on the same day the Mets clinch the AL East, we will be reading about the smell. A few pages of car ads later...you can read about the Mets. That is the way it works. I will spare you the OWNED commentary. Although if you keep agreeing with SJ I will let Jermaine back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Although if you keep agreeing with SJ I will let Jermaine back. Ill commit Message Board suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Scott...thanks for playing. But you MISSED the boat on this one. Chicago is a Cubs town. It has nothing to do with the White Sox winning the World Series. NY is the YANKEES town. Willie's impressive start aside. If George farts on the same day the Mets clinch the AL East, we will be reading about the smell. A few pages of car ads later...you can read about the Mets. That is the way it works. I will spare you the OWNED commentary. Although if you keep agreeing with SJ I will let Jermaine back. If being "relavent" is winning a popularity show as opposed to winning ball games, I will take teh winning EVERY time. NOW I understand why Yankee fans seem excited just because of the number of players on teh Yankees that are leading their positions for teh All Star game. They LIKE us, they really LIKE us! Good for your fandom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 A lot of people go to see the Yanks to see them lose or to see a historic stadium Yankee Stadium - when you start putting up attendance figures So the same could be said for the Red Sox.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Scott...thanks for playing. But you MISSED the boat on this one. Chicago is a Cubs town. It has nothing to do with the White Sox winning the World Series. NY is the YANKEES town. Willie's impressive start aside. If George farts on the same day the Mets clinch the AL East, we will be reading about the smell. A few pages of car ads later...you can read about the Mets. That is the way it works. I will spare you the OWNED commentary. Although if you keep agreeing with SJ I will let Jermaine back. ummmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 NY will never again be a Mets town unless the Yankees move the Mets are the fourth most relevant baseball team in NY history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 NY will never again be a Mets town unless the Yankees move the Mets are the fourth most relevant baseball team in NY history. It is a shame you were so young during the 80's. You missed a lot. For a young guy like you to be so young and to use terms like "never", just seems so wasteful. And, if you think the Mets were second fiddle in '69, and the years that followed immediately after, well, you are not as versed in baseball history as you pretend to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 If being "relavent" is winning a popularity show as opposed to winning ball games, I will take teh winning EVERY time. NOW I understand why Yankee fans seem excited just because of the number of players on teh Yankees that are leading their positions for teh All Star game. They LIKE us, they really LIKE us! Good for your fandom Scott... Yankee fans are focused on one thing. Winning it all. The bar has been set that high. This thread (started by a Mets fan) was about who was more popular in NY. That's all. Popularity and winning are 2 different things. I happen to be more interested in watching them win. And they do it so often, that is probably the explanation behind their popularity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 New York is still a Yankee town, the reactivity by Yankee fans on this board is amazing. The article merely stated that the 2006 season is SLOWLY swinging the balance the other way. Who could argue that? thats right, exactly what article said,, its starting but Mets have to finish the deal to put them on top again in NY,, again, bottom line, its cyclical,,big deal,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 The town belongs to whoevers winning at the time. WHich also holds true for the Jets and Giants. true,,,as opposed to chicago, where even when Sox are winning, its a Cubs town,, thats what makes NY great,, even with the Yankee tradition, when Mets are winning and Yanks arent the fans realize it,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 I don't care how many seats you sell,how many regular season games you win, How many HR's Beltran has or how many loser mets fans there are....It will take a lot more than that to change what kind of town NY is. Only Mets fans would put a claim to fame on NYC after 60 regular season games. reread article,,, it said yanks still have town, but he can see its starting to shift, IF the mets continue what they have started,,a BIG IF,, i admit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 Scott...thanks for playing. But you MISSED the boat on this one. Chicago is a Cubs town. It has nothing to do with the White Sox winning the World Series. NY is the YANKEES town. Willie's impressive start aside. If George farts on the same day the Mets clinch the AL East, we will be reading about the smell. A few pages of car ads later...you can read about the Mets. That is the way it works. I will spare you the OWNED commentary. Although if you keep agreeing with SJ I will let Jermaine back. u just cant let go,, NYC has shifted over years between Mets and Yanks dominating fans and back pages,, look up attendance on down Yank yeras vs up Mets years and vice versa,,whats the big deal,, are u that much still the 8 year old walkin thru yankee stadium tunnel seeing the field for the 1st time to not realize that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 NY will never again be a Mets town unless the Yankees move the Mets are the fourth most relevant baseball team in NY history. uh ok skippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 Scott... Yankee fans are focused on one thing. Winning it all. The bar has been set that high. This thread (started by a Mets fan) was about who was more popular in NY. That's all. Popularity and winning are 2 different things. I happen to be more interested in watching them win. And they do it so often, that is probably the explanation behind their popularity! NOW,, but that changes,, and when it has over years, the allegiance of city has swayed back and forth,, now , i agree if yanks continue to be at top of standing EVERY year forever, then the best the two teams can do is draw,,,but crap happens and if mets play 1st place ball and yanks slip to being 8 to 10 games oyut in July then its a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 u just cant let go,, NYC has shifted over years between Mets and Yanks dominating fans and back pages,, look up attendance on down Yank yeras vs up Mets years and vice versa,,whats the big deal,, are u that much still the 8 year old walkin thru yankee stadium tunnel seeing the field for the 1st time to not realize that? I told you I didn't read that article. I have never disagreed that the town has shifted. They go with the winner. My point is that the shift has not begun and is not close. The Yankees dominate in attendance. The Mets are a win it now team. Look at the age in the rotation. They have this season and next to get it done. Then they will be bringing in new guys to get it done. That doesn't always work out. tick, tick, tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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