Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Posted on Wed, Aug. 09, 2006 Edwards wants his team to grind it out Chiefs coach stresses controlling the ball on offense, a contrast to Vermeil’s squads. By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star DAVID EULITT | THE KANSAS CITY STAR The Chiefs’ offense will feature more plays like Damon Huard (center) handing off to Dee Brown on Tuesday. Solari RIVER FALLS, Wis. | When the Chiefs failed one of their first offensive tests of training camp Tuesday, coach Herm Edwards — that famed defender of the defense — wasn’t happy about it. The Chiefs couldn’t generate a first down when running the so-called 4-minute offense, a term for the mode used when a team is leading late in a game and wants to control the ball and run out the clock. In what was an even bigger crime to Edwards, they stopped the clock by throwing an incomplete pass on third down. “We’ve got an excellent offensive line, and we have a tremendous runner,” Edwards said after practice concluded. “We have to be able to knock people off the ball and run the ball and the game is over. That’s a mentality we have to get. “If you’re going to win on the road, that’s what you have to do. There’s no secret.” The situation was yet another sign of the transition the Chiefs face as they move from the continual attack mode of the Dick Vermeil-Al Saunders era to the conservative, ball-control philosophy favored by Edwards. “It’s great to be able to work these situations out now,” tackle Kevin Sampson said. “There was some emphasis on this at training camp last year, but not nearly as much or as detailed as what we’re doing now. “The players are learning this, and the coaches are, too. They’ve got to learn what to call in that situation. You’ve got to think fast. We’ve got so many minutes and so many seconds left and we’ve got so far to go. It prepares everyone. “It’s a mentality to get the first down and keep the clock moving and keep the chains moving.” The Chiefs were built offensively to score points and get big plays, but not necessarily control the ball and the clock. As if to prove the point, the Chiefs ran a 2-minute drill in the afternoon practice. They were given a minute, 46 seconds with two timeouts; and they needed a touchdown, not just a field goal. [Presumably this was a good drill to try because Edwards' teams always have 2 timeouts left with 1:46 left to play when a touchdown is needed.] The offense, back in its element, went right down the field and got the touchdown on Trent Green’s 3-yard pass to Tony Gonzalez. While, as Edwards indicated, the Chiefs have the necessary components in a strong offensive line and a powerful runner in Larry Johnson, Tuesday’s struggles in the 4-minute offense indicate they have plenty of room to grow. “It’s a new mentality, too,” Edwards said. “I understand that. They probably played the 4-minute offense a little differently from how I see we’re going to play it. That’s OK. It’s a learning process. That’s why it’s camp. If this was a game, I’d be really upset. “The defense set the tempo, and the offense didn’t respond the way it should. In the game, you might not make 5 yards on the first run. You might make only 3. But you’ve got to keep hammering, and you can’t have that mentality where you think a pass will bail us out. It didn’t bail us out today. It was third and 8, and we stopped the clock.” Edwards also appeared to aim criticism at the play-caller, offensive coordinator Mike Solari. [big shocker here.] “The coaches have to understand that philosophy, too,” Edwards said. “We all have to learn the new philosophy. We don’t have to throw a pass every time. Eventually, you’ve got to hard-nose it, hard-hit it, no fair dodging it, run the ball, period. You’ve got to be able to do that in football, and you’ve got to be able to do it on the road.” The offensive players heard about their failure in no uncertain terms from Edwards. “He told us we need to be better because today wasn’t good enough,” tight end Kris Wilson said. “It’s definitely a mentality. If we have the ball and we have the lead, we have control of the game. In order to do that, you have to be able to run the ball effectively. We can do it pretty well now. It’s just practice and sometimes the defense gets the better of you.” To reach Adam Teicher, call (816) 234-4875 or send e-mail to ateicher@kcstar.com. © 2006 Kansas City Star and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.kansascity.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 funny, but sad we had this nutsack for 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instant Karma Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oktaren Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 poor chiefs fans have to watch this meddling man ruin the potent offense they have had for quite a while now... pretty crazy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Posted on Wed, Aug. 09, 2006 Edwards also appeared to aim criticism at the play-caller, offensive coordinator Mike Solari. [big shocker here.] Over/under on years Mike Solari remains with the team? I have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 It's too funny. So when the offense let loose they had no trouble marching down the field & scoring (even vs their new revamped secondary). When they try "Herm's way" they can't even get a single first-down. Herm sees no pattern here. Over/under on years Mike Solari remains with the team? I have one. Well the over/under is 2. Clearly you're betting the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Get over it! BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Who's bitching? I think this is hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbn007 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Was this totally unexpected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajensen088 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 ***SE edit*** Jensen you post something like that again & you're banned. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Instant Karma Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 ***SE edit*** Jensen you post something like that again & you're banned. End of discussion. please...please...post like that again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Herm is destroying the #1 offense in the NFL on purpose. It is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 We now return you to your regularly scheduled program. Herm is destroying the #1 offense in the NFL on purpose. It is funny. So now you are teasing the bears in the cage and then get mad at them when they fight back? Just doesn't make sense. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 So now you are teasing the bears in the cage and then get mad at them when they fight back? Just doesn't make sense. BZ Right. Jensen is a caged bear. I don't think you caught his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BwanaZulia Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Right. Jensen is a caged bear. I don't think you caught his post. Nope. I am sure it was a winner. BZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavrik Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chiefs are at the end of their talent pool. In a few years, they'll be in full blown rebuilding mode. So Herm will be lucky enough to preside over that. If you think Herm was bad with a team with talent, just wait until you see him with a team that's rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He Is Destroying that team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Hey, Mike Solari-UNDER THE BUS WITH YOU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 You watch, eight weeks into the season, Herm's new stooges in the media will be dumping on Scolari for this mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 GET OVER IT!!!! ( that was pretty funny ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Gets picked up by Peterson and dropped into KC as a figurehead with the express promise of not messing up a prolific offense. And then does just that. And of course proceeds to blame his OC in the press as if he's some uninvolved 3rd party. What musut Solari think about that, as opposed to having such a discussion in private? Saw in Sunday's Daily News Gary Myers column that no matter who's asking the questions he will not discuss his escape from NY. Edwards is a lying douchebag c___sucker. It's a shame he's about to make a mess of another franchise, and that his pals in the media to continue to giuve him a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 Gets picked up by Peterson and dropped into KC as a figurehead with the express promise of not messing up a prolific offense. And then does just that. And of course proceeds to blame his OC in the press as if he's some uninvolved 3rd party. What musut Solari think about that, as opposed to having such a discussion in private? Saw in Sunday's Daily News Gary Myers column that no matter who's asking the questions he will not discuss his escape from NY. Edwards is a lying douchebag c___sucker. It's a shame he's about to make a mess of another franchise, and that his pals in the media to continue to giuve him a pass. See that's where I can't see anyone defending him. Why in the WORLD would he do that to his OC and, in so many words, tell the whole planet (HIS OWN PLAYERS INCLUDED) that their new offensive coach just doesn't get it. What POS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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