Gang Green Girl Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 After Jets quarterback Chad Pennington suffered a shoulder injury during the 2004 regular season, we'd heard rumblings from within the organization that there was concern he had a torn rotator cuff. When Pennington returned to action after missing a few games, it looked like he didn't. After the Jets' playoff run ended, the team admitted that they'd concealed the true extent of the damage, and that the cuff was indeed torn. We're now hearing that there's some concern Pennington might not be ready for the 2005 season, and that the injury was more severe -- and the surgery to correct it was more extensive -- than the team has reluctantly acknowledged. So in addition to intensifying rumors that veteran (which is a lot nicer than saying "old" or "decrepit") quarterback Vinny Testaverde will be coming back to New York, given that Drew Bledsoe has taken his place in Dallas, the Jets could be looking elsewhere for quarterback help. Specifically, we've been told that Jeff Garcia's agent, Steve Baker, was seen meeting with Jets' officials on Thursday night in Indianapolis, where the football world is gathered for the annual Scouting Combine. Garcia primarily has been linked to the Lions and Buccaneers following his release from the Browns. Although free agency doesn't officially begin until next week, Garcia is free to sign with any other team now, since he's officially been released by Cleveland. A year ago, he was cut by the 49ers due to a salary cap impasse. Back to Pennington, we suspect that the Jets will continue to put on a happy face ("this is my happy face") regarding his prognosis, just as they did during the 2004 season. Of course, since they've lied before, it'll be hard for anyone to accept anything they have to say on the topic moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 We're now hearing that there's some concern Pennington might not be ready for the 2005 season, and that the injury was more severe -- and the surgery to correct it was more extensive -- than the team has reluctantly acknowledged. Yep, a little minor surgery and he would be 100% for the start of mini-camp. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Jay Fiedler people. Not Vinny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 i think this same article was posted 1 day after his surgery....im not worried yet its too early to tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Can we start the first "FIRE HERM" thread? I CALLED this sh*t the second Chad went out with the shoulder! I said if they brought him back with a bad RC to save what was becoming a lost season anyway and, as a result, pissed away 2005, then Herm should be SHOT. Where's my boy, GOB???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Can we start the first "FIRE HERM" thread? I CALLED this Sh#t the second Chad went out with the shoulder! I said if they brought him back with a bad RC to save what was becoming a lost season anyway and, as a result, pissed away 2005, then Herm should be SHOT. Where's my boy, GOB???? Gotta give you credit there TS. I remember how people bashed you when you were calling for PennyBoy not to play the remainder of the season. Also, good call by GOB saying the surgery is much more serious and he doubted that PennyBoy would be ready by the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Can we start the first "FIRE HERM" thread? I CALLED this Sh#t the second Chad went out with the shoulder! I said if they brought him back with a bad RC to save what was becoming a lost season anyway and, as a result, pissed away 2005, then Herm should be SHOT. Where's my boy, GOB???? If no one else noticed I congragulate you TS on your promotion to resident homo-nice to see you "rise" to the occasion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Can we start the first "FIRE HERM" thread? I CALLED this Sh#t the second Chad went out with the shoulder! I said if they brought him back with a bad RC to save what was becoming a lost season anyway and, as a result, pissed away 2005, then Herm should be SHOT. Where's my boy, GOB???? suckin down crispy creams in his squad car in some abandon lot.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djaparz Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 if chad doesn't come back in 2004 he gets the name of being a pansy and not being able to play injured... its not all Herm its teh medical staff & Chad also who make this call - to me if Chad missed the remainder of the season then we nevr make the playoffs last year.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djaparz Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Jeff Garcia is the best fit - he is a west coast QB.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gg Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 oy... i too have been nervous since the surgery...i don't think brooks can do it either. i think it is time we move Ricky Ray up... give the boy a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 oy... i too have been nervous since the surgery...i don't think brooks can do it either. i think it is time we move Ricky Ray up... give the boy a chance. I'm with you on this one gg and surprised more Jets fans wouldn't want to see the same. For crying out loud, Bollinger was removed from the game at Wisconsin in every passing down situation. He's an option QB and we all know how well those guys do in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 This is rehash of old news IMO when the surgery news first came out. The Jets staff seem to love Bollinger I honestly do not see what they see in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I can't believe everybody bought the company line that somehow CHad had undergone some miraculous, never seen before rotator cuff/labrum tear surgery and would be back crisp and clean by training camp. I'm telling you, we better pray that Steve McNair asks out of Tennessee, and that he wants to play for Herm and Heimerdinger next year in a retirement parade. Otherwise, as of right now, the season is in SERIOUS jeopardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinlawyer Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 This is rehash of old news IMO when the surgery news first came out. The Jets staff seem to love Bollinger I honestly do not see what they see in him What are our options? 1) Brooks Bollinger - The kid looked good in that game against Arizona when Quincy got his Coke head rung. Was it a product of playing Arizona or is this kid capable of moving the chains? 2) Vinny Spaghetti - A Rerun? I hope not. The guy is not fit for a WC type offense. Dinger will hopefully not approve of him being brought in. 3) Jeff Garcia - Too limp wristed to play in the NFL? He worked the WC system to perfection when he was in SF. Can it work here? 4) Kurt Warner - he wants to be a STARTER, not gonna happen when C. Penn signed for big contract. 5) brian Griese - Can you trust this guy not to implode? There is your answer 6) Jay Fiedler - Grew up a Jet fan, played for Dolphins. Can win games, but can he hold the fort til Chadwick comes back? 7) Jeff George -The guy has a cannon arm and a noodle head. They say he has reformed himself. I say, if Chicago let's him go, we should take a flyer on him. This guy can make ALL THE THROWS.. 8) Ricky Ray - You have to be weary of ANY GUY NAMED RICKY. Seems like a Good QB outta the CFL, got a raw deal last summer but came back. Do we give him snaps? I say we give Jeff George a shot. LL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djaparz Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Vinny is not an option - he proved in Dallas that it was not just our OC he couldn't make plays for. Brooks can work out - but do we want to a non experienced guy to start our season Jeff Garcia - can't do the deep ball but knows how to execute the West Coast offense. Kurt Warner - where is he going to start ? I would say let sign him to a one year contract - he still has the arm and with a good ground game it will alleviate alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Vinnie supporters remind me of Tommy Maddox supporters. Why the hell would you want a guy that throws that many picks? Well, at least half of his don't go back for TD's like Maddox's do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 The two fre agents I would consider to bring in are Holcomb and McMahon. McMahon probably wants to go some where he has a chance to start though. Garcia is going to Detroit with Mariucci IMO Warner forget about it -he is a sitting target back there-besides he is a Giant reject Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Vinnie supporters remind me of Tommy Maddox supporters. Why the hell would you want a guy that throws that many picks? Well, at least half of his don't go back for TD's like Maddox's do. Would you rather have Maddox or Kordell start for you, SP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Would you rather have Maddox or Kordell start for you, SP? Neither? Hey ya can go through the list of our starters all the way back to 83 and ask how the hell have we made so many PO appearances. But given the choice between Stewart or Maddox i say go to the shotgun, put Madddox in, place head between knees, and listen for crowd noise to tell ya how well we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Neither? Hey ya can go through the list of our starters all the way back to 83 and ask how the hell have we made so many PO appearances. But given the choice between Stewart or Maddox i say go to the shotgun, put Madddox in, place head between knees, and listen for crowd noise to tell ya how well we did. OK, see how you feel about that ONE position? Multiply that by 22 and you know how Jets fans have felt for 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 OK, see how you feel about that ONE position? Multiply that by 22 and you know how Jets fans have felt for 30 years. 36 years. Dumbass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 You're time is coming my friend. Look at it this way, the Jets are in the top 4 of the toughest conference that football has seen in years IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets6ever Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I say we get Jeff George or Fielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 I say we get Jeff George or Fielder. Think Hermy will be smart enough to adjust the offense this time around? I can just picture Jeff George making all those snappy progression reads in a WCO and finding the open receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Think Hermy will be smart enough to adjust the offense this time around? I can just picture Jeff George making all those snappy progression reads in a WCO and finding the open receiver. I may hang myself. Tex, when I die, I bequeath you my share of jetnation.com and my mod duties. Make me proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardSeymour Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Don't worry Tom Shane, it's not like there's another good team in the division to worry about. Even without Pennington, even with Pennington OUT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR and probably NEVER THE SAME QB AGAIN it's not like there are any serious opponents in the division.... Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Don't worry Tom Shane, it's not like there's another good team in the division to worry about. Even without Pennington, even with Pennington OUT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR and probably NEVER THE SAME QB AGAIN it's not like there are any serious opponents in the division.... Oh wait... I despise you RS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillerPaul Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Don't worry Tom Shane, it's not like there's another good team in the division to worry about. Even without Pennington, even with Pennington OUT FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR and probably NEVER THE SAME QB AGAIN it's not like there are any serious opponents in the division.... Oh wait... What, do you want him to hand you the rope and help hang him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets6ever Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Losing Chad doens't matter. Who cares? He's just not that good. Fielder, Jeff George, Chad...what's the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 god i hope they dont sign jeff 'crazy man' george... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Pro Football Talk is the most unreliable piece of trash ever. Don't ever believe anything that comes from that sh*tty ass website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 OOooooo I found another word that wasn't covered by Max and Shamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 OOooooo I found another word that wasn't covered by Max and Shamus. PUSH MY BUTTONS LAG!!! SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets6ever Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Not for nothing, but I've been worried that Chad won't be ready for his entire career and still am. The kid just isn't ready and probably never will be. C'mon - he gets hurt a lot, has a rag arm, comes up small against good defenses and gets carried by CuMart. He's JAG. I'd take each and every one of these QBs over him right now: Garcia Fiedler Warner Griese Brad Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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