PFSIKH Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 You are kidding about number 3 right? If there is any position on a football team that age doesn't make a difference its PK. How many are playing in their 30s and I think there maybe a couple of 40s around. And he wasn't your average kicker. Yeah and I could probably kick a longer FG then Anderson. I think Belichick and Pioli let AV go for health concerns. He has had back problems in the past. His less then stellar year last year probably made them forgo resigning him. I agree age does not matter as much, but it is not like they retain their range as they get older. While it is not helping the 2006 Patriots, it is better to let him go too early then too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorFlaJet Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yea, maybe the Pats should have paid AV what he wanted so he could be inactive because of a severe groin injury. Shmuck, I'm responding to PF's statement. He didn't mention that. Argue with him. Dumb and Dumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny green balls Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Yea, maybe the Pats should have paid AV what he wanted so he could be inactive because of a severe groin injury. belly can read the future and actually anticipate injuries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 2. There is one franchise that has been consistently good for the better part of the last decae and a half....the Steelers. Only 3 losing seasons. Why? They do not over pay and they develop talent. The Patriots emulate this. Maybe they did not anticipate the Branch situation falling apart, but paying him top dollar will allow someone else to leave. Branch had little to do with the Pats' salary cap. They simply didn't want to pay him. They are under the cap by plenty & could've made the $13M SB he eventually got into a RB that came 100% off the 2006 cap plus a $2M salary (Pats are at least $15M under for this year so what does it matter if all that space was eaten up by Branch? You can’t use extra 2006 cap space in 2007 & beyond anyway.). The rest of the contract would’ve been no problem; particularly for someone as important as their golden boy Tom Brady’s favorite target. His cap # would be inflated for 2006, but who cares? It wouldn’t affect future cap. He’d have counted about $3.5M in ’07, $4M in 08, $5M in ’09, etc. With a cap that’ll probably balloon up to $110M just next year (and who knows what after that), it was pretty shortsighted (not to mention arrogant) of the Pats. And it’s actually LESS risky for NE than a regular signing bonus of half that amount. If he had a career-ending injury there would be absolutely no cap repercussion if he suddenly retired since there would be no amortized bonus (since it all came off in year one). The only difference there would’ve been was in Bob Kraft’s bank account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 good point sperm. no matter how you slice it, the ego's of the front office maneuvered themselves out of their starting reciever and are paying for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmike1 Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 good point sperm. no matter how you slice it, the ego's of the front office maneuvered themselves out of their starting reciever and are paying for itfor this year, yes. but they got more for branch then he was worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 Branch had little to do with the Pats' salary cap. They simply didn't want to pay him. They are under the cap by plenty & could've made the $13M SB he eventually got into a RB that came 100% off the 2006 cap plus a $2M salary (Pats are at least $15M under for this year so what does it matter if all that space was eaten up by Branch? You can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 The primary target of 2-time SB MVP is not "anyone" Pats f'ed up End of dynasty Glad you agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Howley III Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Is Rodney Harrison hurt, again? Man, that guy is like an egg, back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Correction: Jackson has a harmstring injury that has been dogging him since he became a Patriot. So, the reason he can't get on the field is health - not stupidity - even though I can understand that assumption hailing from such an academic powerhouse. I've followed this team for a long time and I know how this present FO works. There is a deeper issue than anyone has touched upon. I just know it. There is something going on with Brady - and it's not any of the points any of you have brought forth. He's not the type to pout for long. He's not the type to ever have consecutive bad games. He's not the type to protest. He's the model citizen-leadership guy. Nope, there is something troubling him and I suspect it's personal. The last time I saw him play like poop for a "prolonged" period of time was when he was out carousing with that tramp Tara Reid for a few months. (que SJ and his "tail" theory...lol!) You may be right on Brady as lame an excuse that is for a pro athlete(see Chad's fathers heart attack) but prior to game one the Herald was reporting: Rookie Chad Jackson should be in the mix as well, but there are rumblings his absence has as much to do with an inability to learn the playbook as it does with a balky hamstring. Whatever the reason, Jackson hasn’t taken a snap since the Outback Bowl. Source: Boston Herald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 You may be right on Brady as lame an excuse that is for a pro athlete(see Chad's fathers heart attack) but prior to game one the Herald was reporting: Rookie Chad Jackson should be in the mix as well, but there are rumblings his absence has as much to do with an inability to learn the playbook as it does with a balky hamstring. Whatever the reason, Jackson hasn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 And that story is crap. The Herald is famous for thowing controversial stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. If it was true (see bold)- explain to me that touchdown catch he had against the Jets last week. It was written prior to game one of the season Garb but with BB's silence on injury reports one has to wonder did he run bad routes during the Jets game other than the TD catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 It was written prior to game one of the season Garb but with BB's silence on injury reports one has to wonder did he run bad routes during the Jets game other than the TD catch. On the Pats first pass play against the Jets, Jackson beat Dyson by 3 steps up the left side. And then Brady over threw him by 10 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garb Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 It was written prior to game one of the season Garb but with BB's silence on injury reports one has to wonder did he run bad routes during the Jets game other than the TD catch. I heard Tom Brady's Monday Morning interview on local sports radio this morning. He stated that Chad was a game time scratch because his hammy wasn't cooperating. Since I do not believe Brady to be a liar, I'll take his word for it. As far as bad route running goes, please see Reche Caldwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elon Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 On the Pats first pass play against the Jets, Jackson beat Dyson by 3 steps up the left side. And then Brady over threw him by 10 yards. Not even close... On the Pats first pass in that game, Brady overthrew Troy Brown, who was well covered by Justin Miller. (at least you got the Brady part right) I think you mixed up the real world with your Madden game. It must be that..I mean, you would never make up something to prove a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFlaJets Posted September 26, 2006 Author Share Posted September 26, 2006 Not even close... On the Pats first pass in that game, Brady overthrew Troy Brown, who was well covered by Justin Miller. (at least you got the Brady part right) I think you mixed up the real world with your Madden game. It must be that..I mean, you would never make up something to prove a point. "and down goes Frazier"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 all those cheap shots take a toll on ya... Is Rodney Harrison hurt, again? Man, that guy is like an egg, back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Did I not say Gostkowski will cost New England at least 1 game this season? He almost did it Week 2 & in Week 3 it was the official iceing on the cake of the Pats' loss. Should've stuck with Gramatica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Did I not say Gostkowski will cost New England at least 1 game this season? He almost did it Week 2 & in Week 3 it was the official iceing on the cake of the Pats' loss. Are you kidding me? How did a kicker cost his team the game when it was a 17-7 game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Are you kidding me? How did a kicker cost his team the game when it was a 17-7 game? I said, ended their comeback. Don't worry, he will cost them a game. There's 13 to go. He will do it. I guarentee it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjets Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Are you kidding me? How did a kicker cost his team the game when it was a 17-7 game? i think he was refering to the blocked FG we had on you in the 4th and we almost tied it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 i think he was refering to the blocked FG we had on you in the 4th and we almost tied it up... The Pats still won that game. He made the comment that Gostowski would cost the Pats some wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 The Pats still won that game. He made the comment that Gostowski would cost the Pats some wins. If you would read you would see that I did not say Gostkowski cost the Patriots anything in the Jets or Broncos games. Yes, I said he will cost you guys a game this season and he hasn't yet but that he has had 2 terrible kicks in big situations so far, setting himself for an eventually game loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 If you would read you would see that I did not say Gostkowski cost the Patriots anything in the Jets or Broncos games. Yes, I said he will cost you guys a game this season and he hasn't yet but that he has had 2 terrible kicks in big situations so far, setting himself for an eventually game loser. Time will tell. Keep in mind, he has yet to miss two FG's (both chip shots) and an extra point in one friggn' game. He has a long way to go to replicate that pathetic performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Time will tell. Keep in mind, he has yet to miss two FG's (both chip shots) and an extra point in one friggn' game. He has a long way to go to replicate that pathetic performance. 2 straight blocks. Get your balls up Gost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Which is supposed to be the noodle leg, the kicking leg or the plant one? Does having a noodle leg increase the risk of say blocked punts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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