The More Things Change.........Edwards stupidity alert

[SoFlaJets]

Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2006

Chiefs Coach Defends Clock Management

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - Criticized for faulty clock management

going back to his days in New York, Herman Edwards isn't sitting

still for this one.

Kansas City's first-year coach has drawn fire from some fans and

broadcasters for not using at least one of his three timeouts while

Cleveland was driving late in the fourth quarter Sunday for the

tying touchdown.

Why not stop the clock and give yourself more precious seconds

to get downfield and maybe kick a winning field goal if the Browns

do tie it?

But Edwards kept his timeouts in his pocket and the Chiefs had

less than a minute to work with after Cleveland scored the tying

touchdown in a game the Browns eventually won 31-28 in overtime.

``They have to make a decision in 30 seconds, and I'm not going

to stop the clock so they can regroup and think about what they

want to do,'' he said. ``They've got to score. We're winning the

game. We're not losing the game. They have to score a touchdown. So

for me, I'm sitting there going, `OK, if they do score, I'm going

to have 30 seconds left, and I've got all three timeouts.''

It's a strategy, Edwards pointed out, that worked beautifully in

a 17-13 victory over Oakland on Nov. 19. The Raiders drove inside

the 10 in the final seconds, but safety Jarrad Page intercepted

Oakland's pass in the end zone to preserve the win.

Similarly, in a 30-27 victory Oct. 22 over San Diego, Lawrence

Tynes kicked the winner with 6 seconds left after the Chiefs used

timeouts while driving downfield to put him in position.

``We didn't make a good play (in Cleveland) when we got the ball

back. That hurt us,'' Edwards said.

``Different situations dictate maybe you use (timeouts). I

thought we managed it well,'' he said. ``I wasn't raising the white

flag thinking they were going to score a touchdown. I thought we

were going to stop them. I'm not going to start calling timeouts

under two minutes, and our defense looks at me and says, `What are

you doing?'

``If I'm going to do that, I'm just going to let them score.

Just let them run the ball and score a touchdown, get it over with.

You don't do that. You've got to play the game.''

The loss left the Chiefs (7-5) in a five-way tie for the two AFC

wild-card spots, and also with a sour taste in their mouths. The

defense, which had played well for a month, failed to protect the

lead after tight end Tony Gonzalez had over 100 yards receiving,

running back Larry Johnson had over 100 yards rushing and Trent

Green threw four touchdown passes.

The entire scene seemed disturbingly reminiscent of past seasons

when the Chiefs would lead the league in offense but fail even to

reach the playoffs because of their sorry defense.

It was also another late-season failure on the road, something

else that has haunted Kansas City for six years.

``Why that is, I don't have any idea,'' Edwards said. ``I really

don't. It's certain players. I guess they just don't play as well

on the road as they do at home, and they've got to find a way to do

that. I wish I could give them a medicine, or a pill. But I can't

do that. They've got to play better, and they know it.

``It's not like they intentionally don't play well on the road.

They want to play well. But for some reason, certain guys don't.

It's not a whole team. You can look at this game and say, `Well,

your defense didn't play well on the road, but your offense did.'

``But what difference does that make? So the offense ate

different food than the defense? Their beds were better than the

defense? No, I don't know that. There were some defensive players

who played halfway decent. And there were some offensive players

who should have played a little bit better, but didn't.

``I don't know. You drive yourself crazy trying to worry about

that stuff.''

[BP]

That is so dumb!!!

Stopping the clock always helps the defense!!!ALWAYS!!!

It stops momentum and lets you regroup..he is without a doubt the biggest moron I think I have ever heard in my life..I am so happy he is gone!!! :yahoo:

[SoFlaJets]

That is so dumb!!!

Stopping the clock always helps the defense!!!ALWAYS!!!

It stops momentum and lets you regroup..he is without a doubt the biggest moron I think I have ever heard in my life..I am so happy he is gone!!! :yahoo:

yea BP you should have heard Buttle tonight on SNY talking about how although he came up with the; "you play to win the game" Mangini actually DOES-while Herm played to it NOT TO LOSE

[aec4]

simply put, you make it about 10% harder on the offense to score by following Herm's strategy, but if they do score, you make it about 75% more difficult for you to score.

You can use your timeouts and give you 2 chances to win... or you can save them and have 1.. dumb

[BP]

simply put, you make it about 10% harder on the offense to score by following Herm's strategy, but if they do score, you make it about 75% more difficult for you to score.

You can use your timeouts and give you 2 chances to win... or you can save them and have 1.. dumb

Exactly!!!

But Herm puts all his eggs in one basket all the time..which makes the margin for error very small..

[BP]

yea BP you should have heard Buttle tonight on SNY talking about how although he came up with the; "you play to win the game" Mangini actually DOES-while Herm played to it NOT TO LOSE

I am just so happy he's gone..why do you think I started posting on Jet message boards in January 2006;)

I think I would have been banned by all of them if I would have posted during his tenure..I give kudos to all posters who went through that aggravation;)

[Bugg]

"So the offense ate

different food than the defense?"

The man cannot be parodied. Are we sure Spermie and Scott Dierking didn't write this?

[Kleckineau]

Kansas City will be 4-12 next year and he will be blaming his assistants like he did in NY.

[Jet27]

I was watching the NFL network last night and I saw Herm's press conference here is what he said (mind you this is just a snip-it from the entire conference):

You try to win, I mean win, that's what we're talking about...and you need to make a play, players need to make a play and we will win. That's what it's about winning in the end.

Now maybe it's me, but how in Gods name did this guy ever become a head coach in the NFL I will never know. This just get's me mad cause perhaps we would have gone further in the Playoffs with the teams we had a couple of years ago..maybe even play in a SB.

[EM31]

Why that is, I don't have any idea,'' Edwards said. ``I really

don't. It's certain players. I guess they just don't play as well

on the road as they do at home, and they've got to find a way to do

that. I wish I could give them a medicine, or a pill. But I can't

do that. They've got to play better, and they know it.

Preparing to feed the underside of the bus again I see.

How about he take some responsibility and acknowledge that it is the coaches who put the product out the one the field. Home and away. It is the head coach who puts the Coaches out there. The buck stops where again? What a slimeball

[SouthernJet]

``They have to make a decision in 30 seconds, and I'm not going

to stop the clock so they can regroup and think about what they

want to do,'' he said. ''

hahaha,,

he is right though.

Whenever a herm coached team calls a timeout it gives the opposition a advantage. He is such a moron the other coachin will always outscheme him .

how many times did we see a Herm led team call a timeout just to come back with CM up the middle on 3rd and whatever, or throw a 6 yard pass on 3rd and 8?

[Sperm Edwards]

Preparing to feed the underside of the bus again I see.

How about he take some responsibility and acknowledge that it is the coaches who put the product out the one the field. Home and away. It is the head coach who puts the Coaches out there. The buck stops where again? What a slimeball

Referring to the team he coaches:

After a win: "we" and "us"

After a loss: "I" vs "they" and "them"

[Preston Howley III]

Herm's a dick.

[EM31]

Referring to the team he coaches:

After a win: "we" and "us"

After a loss: "I" vs "they" and "them"

"Let's just say there was a miscommunication and leave it at that" <wink> <wink>

"I did MY job" <wink> <wink>

[docdhc]

HERM

[Sperm Edwards]

HERM’S TERMS

On intercepting passes:

“One thing that’s great about a football, really the only name on it is Wilson and the commissioner’s name. (The ball) really doesn’t belong to anybody when it floats in the air, so it’s not like it’s the offense’s ball or the receivers’ ball. It really doesn’t belong to anybody. From there, whoever wants to catch it can catch it. You can actually go up and knock it down or intercept it if you want. If we can do that a little bit more, that would be good. That would be very good.”

This is also from the KC star. His quotes are so much fun now he isn't our coach!

WILLLL-SONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenBeans]

Tuesday, Dec. 5, 2006

Chiefs Coach Defends Clock Management

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - Criticized for faulty clock management

going back to his days in New York, Herman Edwards isn't sitting

still for this one.

Kansas City's first-year coach has drawn fire from some fans and

broadcasters for not using at least one of his three timeouts while

Cleveland was driving late in the fourth quarter Sunday for the

tying touchdown.

Why not stop the clock and give yourself more precious seconds

to get downfield and maybe kick a winning field goal if the Browns

do tie it?

But Edwards kept his timeouts in his pocket and the Chiefs had

less than a minute to work with after Cleveland scored the tying

touchdown in a game the Browns eventually won 31-28 in overtime.

``They have to make a decision in 30 seconds, and I'm not going

to stop the clock so they can regroup and think about what they

want to do,'' he said. ``They've got to score. We're winning the

game. We're not losing the game. They have to score a touchdown. So

for me, I'm sitting there going, `OK, if they do score, I'm going

to have 30 seconds left, and I've got all three timeouts.''

It's a strategy, Edwards pointed out, that worked beautifully in

a 17-13 victory over Oakland on Nov. 19. The Raiders drove inside

the 10 in the final seconds, but safety Jarrad Page intercepted

Oakland's pass in the end zone to preserve the win.

Similarly, in a 30-27 victory Oct. 22 over San Diego, Lawrence

Tynes kicked the winner with 6 seconds left after the Chiefs used

timeouts while driving downfield to put him in position.

``We didn't make a good play (in Cleveland) when we got the ball

back. That hurt us,'' Edwards said.

``Different situations dictate maybe you use (timeouts). I

thought we managed it well,'' he said. ``I wasn't raising the white

flag thinking they were going to score a touchdown. I thought we

were going to stop them. I'm not going to start calling timeouts

under two minutes, and our defense looks at me and says, `What are

you doing?'

``If I'm going to do that, I'm just going to let them score.

Just let them run the ball and score a touchdown, get it over with.

You don't do that. You've got to play the game.''

The loss left the Chiefs (7-5) in a five-way tie for the two AFC

wild-card spots, and also with a sour taste in their mouths. The

defense, which had played well for a month, failed to protect the

lead after tight end Tony Gonzalez had over 100 yards receiving,

running back Larry Johnson had over 100 yards rushing and Trent

Green threw four touchdown passes.

The entire scene seemed disturbingly reminiscent of past seasons

when the Chiefs would lead the league in offense but fail even to

reach the playoffs because of their sorry defense.

It was also another late-season failure on the road, something

else that has haunted Kansas City for six years.

``Why that is, I don't have any idea,'' Edwards said. ``I really

don't. It's certain players. I guess they just don't play as well

on the road as they do at home, and they've got to find a way to do

that. I wish I could give them a medicine, or a pill. But I can't

do that. They've got to play better, and they know it.

``It's not like they intentionally don't play well on the road.

They want to play well. But for some reason, certain guys don't.

It's not a whole team. You can look at this game and say, `Well,

your defense didn't play well on the road, but your offense did.'

``But what difference does that make? So the offense ate

different food than the defense? Their beds were better than the

defense? No, I don't know that. There were some defensive players

who played halfway decent. And there were some offensive players

who should have played a little bit better, but didn't.

``I don't know. You drive yourself crazy trying to worry about

that stuff.''

That Sperm Edwards is too funny with his Herm impressions. Great job Spemie!