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well ya know, you could just take Vinny right out of that thing and just readily accept him as the greatest quarterback ever. ........ or i guess you could still leave him in the bermuda triangle

That's not an option. Vinny the Int was the inspiration for the birth of the Bermuda Triangle (well, him and SAR).

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I can honestly see more people coming over here Max in the near future. Banning people for using the word 'mate" for example is insane, not when they allow TX to continue to spew his venom . I'm starting to get more familiar with the lay out here and with all my fellow LNC members it felt very "comfortable" :Typotux: here tonite I must say. Looking foward to being a long time member here. :P

Glad to hear it. I just figured out who you were over "there". Glad that you signed up!

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Haha, yeah, **** happens. I haven't been too bad, the LNC has certainly died down quite a bit with your sudden departure, and 16's leave won't help matters either. How about you?

P.S. Mohr is a little bitch. I figure it's not too long before I join the ranks of the banned, as I've made it my goal to trash him and rajensen (that gutless coward is unfortunately back) every time I have the opportunity. I figure sooner or later it'll catch up to me. :D

If you get banned we have like 500 or 600 posters here that can help you get through it. It is a tough time. The first few days are crucial. That is why the JN Support group is there. To help!

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I gotcha... you sound like a real down to earth guy.

still never responded if knowing me is a good thing?

BTW, has the term penningtologist made it's way over here yet? It was my greatest achievement on JI?

You seem like a good poster! And I have no idea what penningtonologist means, so feel free to use it -- lol.

Unless we get press passes. Then we will just setup a word censor to block it! :Nuts:

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That's not an option. Vinny the Int was the inspiration for the birth of the Bermuda Triangle (well, him and SAR).

yeah, but SAR is a very ciniving person mate!!!

come on, 3 weeks from now, when Vinny goes up to that CBS podium and hoists that Lombardi trophy, tell me that you wont be happy for Vinny, at least if for not more than that one moment, that he finally got his ring. the only way i can end my Vinny crusade is if he finally wins the ring, then his career will truly be complete, and i will have no reason to go overboard anymore, as ALL his accomplishments would finally be able to speak for themselves, no questions asked.

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yeah, but SAR is a very ciniving person mate!!!

come on, 3 weeks from now, when Vinny goes up to that CBS podium and hoists that Lombardi trophy, tell me that you wont be happy for Vinny, at least if for not more than that one moment, that he finally got his ring. the only way i can end my Vinny crusade is if he finally wins the ring, then his career will truly be complete, and i will have no reason to go overboard anymore, as ALL his accomplishments would finally be able to speak for themselves, no questions asked.

That may very well be the last thing I could ever possibly want to see. I am hoping beyond all hope that the Colts light the Patsies up on Sunday. Vinny does not deserve a ring at all, getting it as a Patriot would just be the most sickening thought possible.

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That may very well be the last thing I could ever possibly want to see. I am hoping beyond all hope that the Colts light the Patsies up on Sunday. Vinny does not deserve a ring at all, getting it as a Patriot would just be the most sickening thought possible.

jesus christ, you are a tough sell, mate!!! come on, im not saying root for the chowds, but im just saying if it happens, how could you not be happy for HIM (not talking about the chowds), or at least be happy for me that im happy for him!!!! didnt you read, if Vinny wins the Super Bowl, i will officially bring an end to my Testaverde crusade. let me repeat: if Vinny wins the Super Bowl, i will officially bring an end to my Testaverde crusade!!!!!!!!!!!!

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BTW, I need to ask. Is my good friend rajensen088 a frequent poster here? If so, I may not be able to cotninue my time here. I want to kill him enough as it is on one site, I couldn't handle being on another with him.

He is not here that much but he was here yesterday: http://www.jetnation.com/forums/member.php?u=1232

Now please realize this. One of our moderators is named: Sperm Edwards. So we obviously have no problem bashing the Jets here. (When it is warranted).

The site is torn on Chad. I consider myself a Chad realist. I think he had a pretty good year considering there was no running game. But he had a few clunkers as well.

I am curious to see what an offseason of rest will do for his arm. Also was happy that Mangini didn't name a starter for next year. Always try to upgrade. I just think there are bigger problems than Chad.

But this is the Lounge, so I will knock off the football talk for now!

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hahaha... is this Jumba?

if so, do you know a real reason for this? I think he's the most offensive poster I've come across... all he does is spew hatred?

Yeah, it's me, JJ. Here's the reason as far as I know: I only do short term bannings. If someone needs to be gone it's up to the owner. He's either not around enough to realize the frequency of the problem, or he agrees w/ 99. Leniency has always been in effect and 99's seen some pretty good retorts. Good entertainment IMO, but my job was done as far as he's concerned. Now back on topic, when is III showing up?
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Yeah, it's me, JJ. Here's the reason as far a I know: I only do short term bannings. If someone needs to be gone it's up to the owner. He's either not around enough to realize the frequency of the problem, or he agrees w/ 99. Leniency has always been in effect and 99's seen some pretty good retorts. Good entertainment IMO, but my job was done as far as he's concerned.

Hey T-Mac --

Can you check my account? I seem to be IP Banned for some reason?

:P

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Yeah, it's me, JJ. Here's the reason as far a I know: I only do short term bannings. If someone needs to be gone it's up to the owner. He's either not around enough to realize the frequency of the problem, or he agrees w/ 99. Leniency has always been in effect and 99's seen some pretty good retorts. Good entertainment IMO, but my job was done as far as he's concerned.

ironic how all leniency goes out the window with such an offensive word like "mate." that is remarkable stuff, seriously, thats about as asinine as it gets, mate!!

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He is not here that much but he was here yesterday: http://www.jetnation.com/forums/member.php?u=1232

Now please realize this. One of our moderators is named: Sperm Edwards. So we obviously have no problem bashing the Jets here. (When it is warranted).

The site is torn on Chad. I consider myself a Chad realist. I think he had a pretty good year considering there was no running game. But he had a few clunkers as well.

I am curious to see what an offseason of rest will do for his arm. Also was happy that Mangini didn't name a starter for next year. Always try to upgrade. I just think there are bigger problems than Chad.

But this is the Lounge, so I will knock off the football talk for now!

Fair enough, I try to consider myself a "realist" as well, just often people interpret that as a "hater". I pretty much agree with you on everything as far as Chad, although I don't have much hope that the offseason will do much for his arm, as it was never that impressive to begin with.

As far as jensen, my problem isn't a difference of opinion (half the fun is arguing with people on these boards anyway). My problem is that his arguments lack any sort of logic or evidence of football knowledge and then he runs off and acts like a coward, refusing to ever respond to someone when they rip apart his flimsy arguments. Add that to his undying need to constantly bash Mangini and express his man-crush on Herm and I find him to be the biggest troll I've ever encountered (TX included).

P.S. You guys ever heard of a chowd named MACPAC? Just looking for a heads up. ;)

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Yeah, it's me, JJ. Here's the reason as far as I know: I only do short term bannings. If someone needs to be gone it's up to the owner. He's either not around enough to realize the frequency of the problem, or he agrees w/ 99. Leniency has always been in effect and 99's seen some pretty good retorts. Good entertainment IMO, but my job was done as far as he's concerned. Now back on topic, when is III showing up?

I fear it's the latter... my feeling has always been freedom of religion means freedom for all religions... honestly... A lot of crap goes on on JI... but it's disgusting to be consistently told you're going to hell or whatever...

It's offensive, and what's worse, there are a lot of people who probably will be swayed by him.

I think SBIII is probably done for the night.

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btw- JJ, how did Wayne's horse end up doing tonight, mate?
4th place, missed by a length in slow time. Dissapointing on the drop-down as 2-1 fave. Never heard of his trainer. Wayne's gotta spend some $$ if he wants to be serious about this game.
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My gift to JetNation......

Penningtologist Defined:

To be a Penningtologist is to blindly defend chad pennington as currently being an elite QB based on his performance in 2002. It's to ignore the fact that for a long stretch of this season he was a bottom 5 QB by rank. It is to ignore his bad performances as flukes and embrace his domination of poor defenses as proof of his legendary status.

But most important, it is the job of the Penningtologist to blame anyone and everyone else for Chad's performance when it is not up to snuff.

Welcome to JetNation!

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4th place, missed by a length in slow time. Dissapointing on the drop-down as 2-1 fave.

ahhh, went to the website just now, saw the line, tough trip, parked the mile. o well, he'll get em next week!

can i ask you a question- why is it that over there that under my name it still says hall of fame, instead of banned??

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4th place, missed by a length in slow time. Dissapointing on the drop-down as 2-1 fave. Never heard of his trainer. Wayne's gotta spend some $$ if he wants to be serious about this game.

McDermott, he's always been around the Meadowlands, probably never been in the top 10, but he's clearly a good trainer. he and Wayne are friends, which is probably why he trains Wayne's horses (thank god for hoofbeats!!)

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I fear it's the latter... my feeling has always been freedom of religion means freedom for all religions... honestly... A lot of crap goes on on JI... but it's disgusting to be consistently told you're going to hell or whatever...

It's offensive, and what's worse, there are a lot of people who probably will be swayed by him.

I think SBIII is probably done for the night.

It's more likely the former, but there may be more reason for ignoring it. Personally I really don't take it seriously and can't see how others can. Anyway, this is the wrong board for that debate.

16, I don't know why you were banned, but you didn't say that annoying word all day. Maybe that's not it? You tell me.

Get some sleep, JN.

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It's more likely the former, but there may be more reason for ignoring it. Personally I really don't take it seriously and can't see how others can. Anyway, this is the wrong board for that debate.

Get some sleep, JN.

yeah, i wasn't going to take it any further than that... and yeah, it's about that time.

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This is a good read right here! http://www.ustrotting.com/hoofbeats/chrebet-a.htm

New York wide receiver Wayne Chrebet has found a new sport to love

by Nicole Kraft

Wayne Chrebet stands surrounded by cheering, screaming fans. Their arms wave. They lean forward in rapt attention. Their energy is enveloping, dominating, even overpowering.

Chrebet, a popular wide receiver for the New York Jets, is used to being the object of such attention. Tonight, however, he roars among them--happy to be a spectator and not a participant, still seeking the thrill of victory.

His cheers, and those around him, are directed at the bay pacer Whittingham--his feet flying down The Meadowlands clay surface, as he rallies from seventh to fifth, to third, to first across the wire.

Chrebet's face lights up in a smile usually saved for touchdowns or great receptions. With a sprint he races toward the winner's circle to meet the latest winner from his Double Down Stable, a high-five here and there for those he meets along the way.

There is no Gatorade bath for Whittingham's triumphant performance. Just a pat on the neck, a kiss on the nose, and he heads back to the barn, while Chrebet winds his way back amid the racing crowd.

With his hat pulled low over his eyes, his slight but powerful physique and engaging smile, Wayne Chrebet is nearly as anonymous in The Meadowlands crowd as any other 20-something bettor who has come to the track for a night of festivities--and hopefully to cash a ticket or two.

It would take an NFL fan to realize that the owner engaging in a post-race analysis with trainer Kevin McDermott is one of football's rising greats--one who can leap like a gazelle, run like a Thoroughbred, and grab a ball like his fingers are made from Velcro.

Though Chrebet might be more familiar with the stadium across the parking lot from The Meadowlands, he is quickly finding comfort and success at the plant's racetrack, as he builds a stable of what he hopes will be superior athletes like himself.

"Horses are the most perfect athlete you will ever see," said Chrebet, affection in his voice. "I love to watch them."

It has been eight years since Chrebet broke into the NFL with the Jets, a free-agent longshot from Hofstra University who was 10th on the team's depth chart in his first camp.

Yet Chrebet had the true home-field advantage, having been raised in Garfield, N.J., training camp for his new team took place at Hofstra, the same field where he spent much of his off time when he was not studying for his criminal justice major.

Chrebet knew how to take an opportunity and literally run with it.

Literally.

He has become one of the most popular and accomplished wide receivers on the Jets, and a favorite target for quarterback Vinny Testaverde to find in the end zone.

Chrebet established the NFL mark for most receptions by a player during his first two seasons in the league with 150. His 208 catches over the course of his first three seasons were the sixth most by anyone during their first three years in the NFL.

He has also become known as "Mr. Third Down," for when the Jets are in danger of losing the ball for failing to advance 10 yards in their first two plays, Chrebet has a knack for making huge plays on that third down--making 133 receptions for 2,042 yards with 14 touchdowns.

This is a man who has his own cereal, Chrebet Crunch, to benefit charity, and who is one of his team's most active and involved community members, once honored with the Thurman Munson Award for his efforts on the field and off the field, serving in the community.

Growing up in New Jersey, it is not surprising that Chrebet was exposed to horse racing--considering The Meadowlands, Freehold, Monmouth Park and Garden State Park were all within an hour of his home.

"We would just drop in and bet on the horses, and I got hooked on it," said Chrebet.

With dreams of playing in Giants Stadium dancing in his head, it was without surprise that The Meadowlands attracted Chrebet more than the other racing plants, and he found himself regularly cheering on the Standardbreds.

After having established himself in a lucrative NFL career, Chrebet was ready to do more than just cheer.

Four years ago, he moved into the horse country of Colts Neck, N.J., and couldn't help but admire the equine specimens with whom he shared his neighborhood.

"If I went to the mailbox there was a big [field] with a bunch of horses," he said. "Living in the country, seeing them--it's such a peaceful thing."

Into that house he moved his new wife Amy, and late in 2001, they added son Luke.

Set in life, love and career, Chrebet sought to pursue a new passion.

"My friend, Pat Gatto, and I decided to see what horse ownership felt like," he said.

Gatto was a longtime friend of top driver Jack Moiseyev, so the new partners went to Sid Moiseyev, the father of driver Jack, for some guidance. They eventually claimed pacer Deacon's Lair for $30,000 under the name Double Down Stable--blackjack anyone?--and watched the pacer earn $2,280 before being claimed away for $30,000.

Having been bitten by the racing bug, Chrebet was hooked.

Chrebet unknowingly claimed Deacon's Lair off of Steve Wienick, the coach of his Boys Club basketball league when he was 8 years old. Through Wienick Chrebet came to know trainer Kevin McDermott, with whom he, Gatto, Wienick and John Fodera went partners on the On The Road Again pacer Run The Tolls p,1:50.2.

All told, the partners have owned five horses together, most recently the pacer Whittingham who McDermott claimed for them April 26, 2002.

"Kevin came to us in said he liked this horse who was in a $25,000 claimer," said Chrebet. "He told us that in three weeks he could have this horse in for $40,000. You know what? Three weeks after we claimed him, we were racing in the $40,000 claimer!"

Whittingham won four races for Double Down during the 2002 Meadowlands meet, getting as high as a $65,000 claimer before dropping back down a class. The pacer pulled a suspensory late in the summer and was sold in December, 2002.

That, however, does not leave the Double Down Stable empty, as Chrebet and McDermott claimed the Jenna's Beach Boy gelding Colavito early in 2003 and won with the pacer a week later.

Chrebet, however, is not content to be just a distant part of the racing excitement. He is a frequent visitor to McDermott's barn at Crystal Brook Farm, located just 20 minutes from his Colts Neck home, often bringing along Amy and Luke.

There he is content to stroke his horses' necks, stare into their eyes, take them for a jog around the track, or even just a stroll around the grounds.

"It's beautiful out there," he said. "It's weird to know you own a horse. I love to pet and feed them, and give them love. I am not a hands-off owner.

"I don't know a lot of owners. Everyone has different reasons why do things. A lot of people are in it to win money. I am in it as a hobby. I like to get in the winner's circle. I love the competition. But I really feel the horses are the most perfect creatures that you'll find. To go out there and get in a cart and train them is exhilarating for me. It's also peaceful--just me and him."

"I think he loves the animals more than the action," said McDermott. "Wayne will buy any horse I suggest to him, he loves the business that much. He is a great owner. He just wants what's best for the horses."

Chrebet said the time he spent at the farm and races during the NFL off-season has helped him "learn from my mistakes." He plans now to buy horses earlier in the meet and have more racing at a time to get even more enjoyment out of them. He also sees a time in the near future when young stake horses become part of Double Down's plan.

Though he has not yet tried to recruit his fellow players in his new passion, he did have the company of fellow receiver Laveranues Coles at The Meadowlands for one of Whittingham's races. Chrebet recalled having the unpleasant task of having to explain why the pacer was so far back through much of the mile.

"Laveranues had never been to the track," he said. "I tried to tell him Whittingham likes to see everything in front of him. My horse was seventh in stretch, and [Coles] kept asking me, 'Where's your horse? Is that him in the back?' As they came down the stretch, Whittingham started to move, and he was flying. Kevin was next to me and as they came closer he said, 'We got him!' We won by half a length. That was so exciting for me.

"It's not the money. I cherish these horses. I appreciate that they are working for me. I get a lot of enjoyment out of just watching them on the track--probably a lot more enjoyment than most of the owners."

When Chrebet can't be at the track himself, he is known to huddle by a cell phone in the locker room, awaiting the play-by-play of the race from his partner, Gatto. He always feels a little bit empty when he can't be there for a win by one of his stable members.

"If one of the horses does not [race] well, a lot of people will want to know why they weren't in the money," said Chrebet. "I just want to know if the horse is OK. If Kevin said it was a tough race, and they were stuck outside, I'm just happy knowing the horse tried its best.

"Most of the horses I've had have a personality like myself. They limp in after the race, but they are warriors. They never give up. They may not be the most sound, but they do whatever it takes to win."

Chrebet said he could see a day when he embarks on a breeding venture or two, in the hopes of making his own champions. And even though he has never seen a Thoroughbred race, that too might be in his future.

"Being close to The Meadowlands, it was just easier to go there, and I got to like the harness," he said. "Thoroughbreds don't race as often, so I don't like that. Harness is more my speed right now.

"I have talked about Kevin about getting into some Thoroughbreds. I know other athletes and my old coach, Bill Parcells [now with the Dallas Cowboys], are involved in them. But I'm happy where I am right now."

What Chrebet doesn't plan, however, is to trade in his cleats on a pair of driving boots.

"When I'm ready to retire, hopefully I can still walk by then," he said, smiling. "I can't worry about getting flipped off some horse."

While Chrebet is content with his visits to the barn and track, he admitted that the spectator role is still taking some getting used to. For a man who would "die" trying to win, and who takes the word "no" as a challenge, knowing he can't help his horses get across the wire first carries some frustration.

"I feel helpless when I'm watching a horse race," he admitted with a laugh. "It's not like I can make a play and make my team win. I am just rooting so hard.

"I view horses as the perfectly sculpted athlete. When you own a horse, or even if you just bet on a horse--the crowd cheering him home is what it sounds like in Giants Stadium on a Sunday when someone is going for a big play."

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